They're Remaking 'Alien' -- the 'Prometheus' thread

i cleave to the ancient beliefs

which include: the lesbian asps in the hellraiser maze are good not bad

lol i finally watched ALIEN: COVENANT (2017) on the telly

(sadly GODS OF EGYPT wasn't on)

it risibly failed to answer my metaphysical questions abt who made the alien tbqh, ridley i await yr next franchise release with some impatience and a clipboard of worries

Given that it's Gladiator 2, you won't be alone in having some questions.

WHY WEREN'T YOU ENTERTAINED??!!!

ancient romans encountering the alien would be fucking amazing.

Alien vs. Gladiator!

how many lights do i have to greenlight here.

"Tiberius! This is your son, Drusus! You know that new form of capital punishment you were looking for?"

Aliens built the aqueducts!

"my name is maximus decimus meridius, commander of the armies of the north, general of the felix legions, loyal servant to the true emperor, marcus aurelius. father to a facehuggered son, husband to a chestbursted wife. and i will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."

mark did u enjoy the many scenes of android fingering

my clipboard questions in full:
— who made the chestburster?
— why?
— what does the alien MEAN?
— do severed heads really float?
— who does david think wrote the better version of ozymandias (viz horace smith's version)?
— more on smith's ozymandias: "In Egypt's sandy silence, all alone,/Stands a gigantic Leg… "
— also: "Naught but the Leg remaining to disclose/The site of this forgotten Babylon"
— do severed legs really float?

anyway i quite enjoyed it i guess as a tick-the-boxes sat-night-TV rehash of little but familiar elements of Alien 1-3 -- more than i did THE SKYWALKERS ARE BACK GUYS -- AND THEY'RE SITHS or whatever it's called -- without feeling it made a case for itself even as strong as ALIEN vs PREDATOR 2: WE'RE IN A PYRAMID, A MOTHERFUCKING ANTARCTIC PYRAMID's case for itself. i liked how it tackle the problem of the engineers (= fuck em) and generally zoned out during all the androids tea-party sections (david switching his rolemodel from lawrence of arabia to the hopkins version of hannibal lecter ensured there was little need to watch any of these anyway) (david and walter shd have gone with duelling irish accents IMO: michael collins vs de valera maybe)

The *twist*, if it can be called that, was so eyerolly

yeah, at least he wasn't wearing an evil robot mustache.

still amused by the thought of noomi rapace cobbling together an entire new body for david out of fuck knows what on an almost entirely empty engineer ship

"ozymandias is by byron you know, and it's good!"

http://cyberneticzoo.com/wp-content/uploads/k456-Nam-June-Paik-K456_p1-x640.jpg

‘let me unlock for you the secrets of effective fingering’

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/G3434R/artificial-intelligence-experimental-robot-search-future-G3434R.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYDW2A5-Cbw

I never quite figured out whether that planet was meant to be engineer homeworld, I suppose it was.

I thought the exposition - jumping to flashback to show David bionuking all those dudes - was a stupid decision that detracted from the tension. Better to have had him walking around the skeletons saying what he'd done or lying about it or whatever. Getting to see the engineer homeworld was always going to be anticlimactic. Oh, they look like humans and wear robes.

I thought the landscape was gorgeous and I really wish it could just have been a temperate planet but with xenomorph spores on it - looks nice, but actually a horrible place of death. Unusual to see xenomorphs in such a setting, don't think we've seen it before in the franchise? But no, must have a load of cosmic non plot.

Wasn't sure if he was supposed to have killed Noomi or what. Was that her body or a sculpture? He used her to make the alien out of?

Then at the end the pay off is just ... a regular seen it before soldier alien going round a spaceship killing people. And with none of the wtf claustrophobic atmosphere of Alien.

And the decision to go off course in the first place was unbelievably badly acted, like there was no feeling of resistance at all.

alien vs predator: requiem actually does begin in the forest outside gunnison, colorado, but it's mostly at night or in the sewers or indoors so it mostly doesn't look like forest

(the antarctic pyramid one i mentioned upthread is 1 not 2)

and that's why alien vs predator 1 is an awesome movie

finding that cardamon post really soothing and well-paced

I thought the exposition - jumping to flashback to show David bionuking all those dudes - was a stupid decision

idk i think this is like the best part of the movie

a movie i really like tbf

i just realized it was a stealth remake of The Black Hole. if only the ending were as good!

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Man, Prometheus just makes me so angry(!) I can't believe I've seen it now like 3x.

Also, while searching this thread for my posts, I learned not only that there was a sequel to Prometheus (!) but that I actually saw it yet have zero recollection of it haha.

Would love to see a non-stealth remake of The Black Hole

Then again, the original is basically perfect

If I remember correctly, since I only saw it decades ago as a kid, but that ending is legitimately disturbing for a movie Walt Disney put out.

I’m referring to “The Black Hole.” I have no time for the Prometheus garbage.

It’s not just the ending that’s disturbing for Disney. They straight up have a satanic robot disembowel a guy after the heroes learn the horrible fate of the crew, which is also terrifying in itself!

the best things about The Black Hole are the score, th set design, the ship design, those gorgeous miniatures, the opening titles, and the hammy 70s theatrics from Schell and to a lesser extent Borgnine. can't imagine a remake improving on any of those in this day and age, and the story/characters aren't really much to work with.

IMO Best thing about the Black Hole is the matte paintings.

https://nzpetesmatteshot.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-wonderful-world-of-disney-matte-art.html

great images at the bottom of this blogpost.

If I remember correctly, since I only saw it decades ago as a kid, but that ending is legitimately disturbing for a movie Walt Disney put out.

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That was just the early '80s Ron Miller era of Disney in general.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkpf2IzmMVg

I still don't think there's been a good book or proper deep dive into what I keep calling the interregnum years, along the lines of DisneyWar, say. I would read that in a heartbeat.

interregnum years is a good way to put it. when i did the animated feature poll series i dubbed the 80s part of it the "gothic period," but that didn't deal with most of the post-Walt zone or live-action, and it's def the most fascinating and odd disney era for me.

and how did I forget to mention the matte paintings - yes, absolutely.

Boo- Watcher in the Woods is not on Disney+

i suggest Return From Witch Mountain, which is often dull but occasionally musters some creaky creepiness. the score is surprisingly good, too. but really Black Hole and Black Cauldron are the main D+ assets in this department.

Did someone say "Alien?" Did someone say "D+"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWPmXJ3Kwqw

Something Wicked This Way Comes also fits into the timeline/ethos. And straight up animated films of the era like The Rescuers and The Fox and the Hound are often pretty grim! But then again you have Unidentified Flying Oddball, truly one of the worst things ever filmed.

(adds to D+ watchlist)

I loved Something Wicked when I was a kid, about the same time I saw The Creature Wasn't Nice, which at that time was the funniest movie I had ever seen.

You also have Never Cry Wolf from that era which is AFAIK the only straight-up Disney-branded film featuring a peen shot.

(Surprisingly not on D+.)

lol i just realized you all were calling Disney+ "D+". I just figured you were listing all the "D+" (as in grade) movies that Disney released. I thought, huh, some of these movies aren't any worse than C+, but different strokes ...