Bob Dylan: The Bootleg Series

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She'll be standing on a barstool, with a fish head and a harpoon, and a fake beard plastered on her brow
Better do something quick, she's your lover now

growing up in publix (morrisp), Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

Downloaded. Thanks Tyler

Duke, Thursday, 20 September 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link

The album from that blog ^^ is great. I'd never heard that version of Johanna (Freeze Out) - it's like it's fallen through some weird time slip and landed midway through Highway 61.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

yeah I gave it a good listen last night, really impressive edits there

has that Sidetracks comp been discussed at all here? is that the only place you can get "George Jackson"? (I should look upthread, but...)

sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

The 7" single (which I may still have somewhere) incl. an acoustic solo version, dunno where that is nowadays, but Spotify has the other side, labelled as the Big Band Version, ho-ho: mainly it's got a beat, and black gospel singers on the chorus, eventually seconded by steel guitar---atypical of the times, and taken by some (like me) as a solidarity-of-the-People move:
https://open.spotify.com/track/2led9vlFlwVVpEBt9TSyae
Also it's on youtube--via this site if you want to see the lyrics etc. too
https://revolutionaryfrontlines.wordpress.com/2011/08/21/george-jackson-a-song-by-bob-dylan-1971/

dow, Friday, 21 September 2018 22:59 (five years ago) link

oh I'm familiar with the song, was more curious about that comp - is it just a copyright hedge?

sleeve, Friday, 21 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

I have the "Side Tracks" CD -- I think it was released in Japan only?

growing up in publix (morrisp), Friday, 21 September 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

George Jackson was included on the "Masterpieces" comp from 1978

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masterpieces_(Bob_Dylan_album)

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link

xxp -- Looks like "Side Tracks" was released on 3xLP for Record Store Day in 2013, and 2CD in Japan.

growing up in publix (morrisp), Friday, 21 September 2018 23:08 (five years ago) link

If You See Her, Say Hello - Take 1 is out
https://open.spotify.com/track/4o8ASl77G362BEVsp3TuvB

niels, Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:44 (five years ago) link

The one I always come back to. The ultimate breakup song

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 22 September 2018 11:43 (five years ago) link

The ultimate Tangier-relocation song.

growing up in publix (morrisp), Saturday, 22 September 2018 13:47 (five years ago) link

re: "George Jackson," Masterpieces has the "Big Band Version" and Sidetracks has the "Acoustic Version." The single is always pretty cheap and has both, personally go with the BBV. There's a live cover by Fairport Convention on the Tree with Roots compilation of Fairport and friends Dylan covers that came out last month to mark the 50th anniversary of the Basement Tapes acetate arrival in London.

If you want to do a deep dive on GJ: http://www.searchingforagem.com/1970s/1971George.htm

Love that take of IYSH,SH, stoked for this.

by the light of the burning Citroën, Saturday, 22 September 2018 14:24 (five years ago) link

Hey, thanks for mentioning that collection! Mr. D. cover got Fairport on Tops of the Pops:
https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/fairport-convention-sing-bob-dylan-new-compilation-tree-roots/

dow, Saturday, 22 September 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

And lots of live on there, cool. Thanks Spotify.

dow, Saturday, 22 September 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just listening to the (magnificent) I Was Young When I Left Home from No Direction Home and wondering if the rest of the Minnesota Tapes are worth tracking down or if they're even available?

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

That early period is really killing me right now.

Have the Rams stopped screaming yet, Lloris? (Chinaski), Monday, 15 October 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

Surely easy to track down? Tylerw to thread!

Duke, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:53 (five years ago) link

I confess I've sort of gone off very early Bob. That may change again.

Duke, Monday, 15 October 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link

The sonic embodiment of mid-October.

... (Eazy), Monday, 15 October 2018 20:55 (five years ago) link

the mono mixes that were released in the box the few years ago really turned me around on the early albums

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 15 October 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

Greil Marcus does an in-depth thing on the new "Blood on the Tracks" set here: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/real-life-rock-top-ten-746600/

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

he's one of those canonized journalists where I can't understand a word of his writing

Especially once the Weissberg outfit was out of the room, with their eight consecutive takes on the stupid hoedown “You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome when You Go” — yeah, that’s a real heartbreaker of a breakup song, especially if you can’t remember the name of the person you’re supposedly breaking up with — the New York performances are pure, real, acoustic, searching, pure, anguished, soulful, unencumbered and pure. You can see right through them, to the person who’s singing! It’s like reading his autobiography! This is the truth!

seems so insider-y

niels, Friday, 26 October 2018 06:43 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I honestly can’t even tell if he’s being “serious” or “sarcastic” in any part of that chunk you quoted.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link

I did think it was interesting how he pointed out that a lot of the songs employ the format where every verse ends with a repetition of the title phrase; guess I never thought of that.

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

They edited that out on "Rainy Day Women no 12 and 35"

Mark G, Friday, 26 October 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

Haha, well I meant the BotT songz

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

(I knew)

Mark G, Friday, 26 October 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

DOIN’ THE “BOTT”
HEY PRETTY PRETTY

greta van vliet (morrisp), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:04 (five years ago) link

irl lol

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 26 October 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Really excited for the Blood on the Tracks set.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 26 October 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

I am subscribed to a related Spotify playlist but so far only two of the tracks are from that set.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 October 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

Dylan stuff doesn't seem to come to Spotify right away, at least in complete form. Triplicate just had a sampler for about a year.

President Keyes, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

Thanks! Paul Griffin!

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 15:16 (five years ago) link

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBLViMLws10

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

great little review

niels, Monday, 29 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

yeah, in the past, they haven't put up the complete deluxe bootleg series stuff, as far as I know.
here are my initial thoughts on the new one: https://aquariumdrunkard.com/2018/10/29/bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14/

― tylerw, Monday, October 29, 2018 2:55 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i just don't what they want from me
it's like the more blood we come across, the more tracks we see

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

Hm. That’s

didn't get into it in the review, but Griffin's contributions are still best heard via the acetate bootleg — the new mix is not as good imo.

📹

Thanks, but This Video Requires Payment To Watch.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link

hmm, i did not pay to watch that video. anyway, the acetate mix is out there ... somewhere.

tylerw, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

I can watch the video without being asked to pay

Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Hm. Tried again and then again and it finally worked, third time was the charm. Sorry for the kerfuffle.

Buckaroo Can't Fail (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 October 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

Maybe a stupid question but... Does the "correct speed" version of BOTT sound noticeably different? I can't imagine it does, but I'd be interested in opinions. I'd be tempted to buy the mp3s if it were worth it.

Duke, Monday, 29 October 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

does the box set include the chopped&screwed version of BotT?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Monday, 29 October 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

Blood on the Traps

President Keyes, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

Duke, for comparison you can find those "slowed down" original versions online, there was an audiophile vinyl reissue in the 80s that had the speed corrected, believe it's called the hi-speed remaster

not a big difference, but it is noticeable

niels, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link

I guess you can also ilxmail me your email and I can send you a link

niels, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 08:04 (five years ago) link

Very kind, thanks. I think I can actually replicate this reasonably well by slowing down my CD version of the album. My player supports that in increments of 0.1%

According to someone over at Steve Hoffmann, the differences are

Tangled Up in Blue 2.30%
Simple Twist of Fate 2.30%
You're a Big Girl Now 2.28%
Idiot Wind 2.25%
You're Gonna Make... 2.21%
Meet Me in the Morning 2.35%
Lily, Rosemary... 1.74%
If You See Her Say Hello 0.68%
Shelter From the Storm 0.68%
Buckets of Rain 0.61%
Total 1.77% 

Duke, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

I’ve been waiting years for this release and they screwed it up. I wanted high quality versions of the test pressing in the original running order and this does not have it.

Andrew "Hit Dice" Clay (PBKR), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link


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