San Francisco and what to do in it

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One of the best things about Oakland is all the killer Ethiopian food. Cafe Romanat is one of my favorites, but there are a bunch of very good options.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 September 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link

Azit has killer Korean cheese fries.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 20 September 2018 06:30 (five years ago) link

if you have small children, take them to Fairyland

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 September 2018 16:26 (five years ago) link

at least oakland's lower density means you're not constantly tripping over abandoned scooters like you would in downtown SF

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:16 PM (yesterday)

well, parts of Oakland that is the case. Not my part.

sarahell, Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

in terms of "what to do" in Oakland -- it depends what you like to do. If you're into hiking/outdoorsy stuff, there are some nice hikes and woodsy stuff. If you like drinking at tiki bars, we have those. If you like goth dj nights, we have lots of those. if you are into craft beer -- there is a lot of that, too. If you like looking at industrial buildings in various states of decay and gentrification/renovation, we have a lot of those as well.

sarahell, Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

I think there's some dumb music festival happening in the park by the port that used to be held in SF going down in a few weeks. The park is dope tho.

sarahell, Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link

one thing to notice about the scooters in Oakland - it mostly community members and kids using them rather than techies getting to work and what not. i'm pro scooter.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

I noticed that too

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

If you're into hiking/outdoorsy stuff, there are some nice hikes and woodsy stuff.

this trail is rad, not too far from Oakland: https://www.hikingproject.com/trail/7024978/vollmer-peak-trail

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link

at least oakland's lower density means you're not constantly tripping over abandoned scooters like you would in downtown SF

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:16 PM (yesterday)

well, parts of Oakland that is the case. Not my part.

idk, even the on most dense sidewalks of Uptown I don't trip over a million scooters the same way I did walking to work in SOMA, but I hear you. I can't say whether they're a social good or ill but the way people drive on them I am amazed that no one has been killed yet.

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link

https://nypost.com/2018/09/04/man-dies-after-electric-scooter-accident/

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

cars are infinitely more deadly, I was just pointing out that ppl had already died

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

has anyone been killed by someone riding a scooter, or has it been only the people riding the scooters who have been killed (i.e. by cars)?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

cars were not involved in the deaths I linked above

Οὖτις, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link

I'm flying out for a bar mitzvah, actually, so I don't think I'll get to go too far afield. But I do know that I'll have a few hours off each day, family commitments aside. So less hiking, more food and shops. I've never been to Berkeley, so there's that; staying at the Hotel Shattuck, which is right by campus, I believe. And the synagogue is right by Chez Panisse, iirc. .

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 September 2018 20:58 (five years ago) link

Hotel Shattuck is downtown -- it's about 5-10 blocks to campus. And like one block from the train to Oakland and SF. The hotel restaurant is pretty good (though I think it recently changed) - they had really good mac & cheese and nice drinks. Berkeley has great bookstores, and Amoeba is still pretty decent depending on what you're looking for and what format.

sarahell, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

If you have a dog, my friend has a shop that makes gorgeous dog collars. I mean, they make them custom, so if you wanted a collar for a not-dog, they could do that do.

sarahell, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

Is it the one near Berkeley Bowl that got a shoutout in that Todd Barry special?

Philip Nunez, Friday, 21 September 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

That makes me wish we had a dog. Our jerk cat would just lose it.

Actually, our cat is awesome, but he probably would lose it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

cats gonna cat

Οὖτις, Friday, 21 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

This cat cats.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 21 September 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

yep - near Berkeley Bowl!

sarahell, Friday, 21 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

Paco Collars! my dogs wear them proudly. Didn't know that was your friend's shop. I recommend these collars for dogs.

Hotel Shattuck is across the street from the YMCA where I swim twice weekly. Landmark theater downstairs.

akm, Friday, 21 September 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Am I going to get ads on Facebook Scrabble telling me to vote against Prop C from now until the election?

sarahell, Monday, 15 October 2018 23:32 (five years ago) link

I think you know the answer

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 03:28 (five years ago) link

RIP La Victoria, but this would be kinda awesome tbh
https://missionlocal.org/2018/10/russian-bakery-eyes-former-la-victoria-building-on-24th-street/

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't say it's like Tartine at all but idk

Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

went to Cinderella my last trip and i thought it was amazing.

mizzell, Thursday, 25 October 2018 22:53 (five years ago) link

had about enough of the protection racket bullshit tbh

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 27 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

?

Οὖτις, Saturday, 27 October 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

Eh cant say i care too much - that place is lame

Οὖτις, Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

I don’t have feels about Laundré one way or the other but demanding access to their books? gtfo

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:31 (five years ago) link

so yeah Cinderella isn’t like Tartine but hey a shakedown opportunity is a shakedown opportunity

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 28 October 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link

haven't been to Laundré so I have no opinion on the place itself but I did want to open something like that place in the east bay at some point! poo. maybe I can still get away with it.

I think local community organizations are important; but that all sounds kind of bad. And frankly I've seen local community groups do more damage to Berkeley than good; they're absurdly hostile to businesses, even small businesses, here.

akm, Sunday, 28 October 2018 15:24 (five years ago) link

I get the sense that there are a lot of things the reporter misunderstood or wrote in a misleading way. The comments are actually not horrible, as far as comments sections go.

It sounds like the United to Save the Mission people met with the business owner and her people, and discussed things. There were undoubtedly some things that were crucial to the agreement, and there were probably some things they said that were along the lines of "it would be cool if you did x" but those weren't things that would explicitly go into the MOU. At "worst" they would be examples of something like, "provide an inviting atmosphere to local families" which could include x, y, and z.

But, it makes me think of the flipside, of business districts and groups that impose rules about decor and business practices that are designed to encourage gentrification and tourism, that one might think should just be up to the owner(s) of the business.

sarahell, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

Yeah that was my interpretation too

Οὖτις, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link

Re: how the meetng was reported

Οὖτις, Sunday, 28 October 2018 17:39 (five years ago) link

maybe. “give us your books” is next-level.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link

otoh these coalitions tend to be made up of a bunch of people who are progressive, but also realistic and sane, but there are also people who are aggro-radicals who will try to pull ridiculous shit.

sarahell, Sunday, 28 October 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

What not to do? Breathe. Air quality just went to purple - unsafe for everyone.

DJI, Thursday, 15 November 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

turns out I am really glad to be going to Yosemite this weekend where the air is still clear

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

xp So I noticed. Fun fun.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

Schools closed tomorrow.

DJI, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

maybe we should all start living underground

Οὖτις, Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

Wonder if anyone still has N99 masks in stock, I'm always slow on this stuff

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:33 (five years ago) link

I'm gonna be out there next week so I can experience this wonderful air you have. Would love any recommendations anyone has. Would also be down for a meetup if folks can pull themselves away from Thanksgiving festivities.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 15 November 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link


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