Norm Macdonald Returns to Television!

this still doesnt explain to me why we can treat norm reasonably after a clumsy gaffe which under 2014-onwards rules should see him afaict an ilx pariah

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― Dmac TT (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 15:20 (eight hours ago) Permalink

Do you actually want us to make him a pariah or is this about someone else who got paraiah’d you’d rather defend?

I love how terrible his trusty sidekick Adam is

They made more of a joke out of this on the YouTube show

Also the difference between this and Eric Andre is Eric Andre seems like the kind of guy who is funny but norm is funny

its curiosity about it tbh

dont want him to be a pariah at all but without going back over case files im still p sure that ilx has been happy to hang others for no worse slipups?

Yre first mistake is thinking theres any type of framework ilx operates under

also don't like the way the netflix series conveniently erases adam egets holocaust denial.

Haha. Felt like the Adam stuff on his YouTube show could occasionally veer into cruel, but it’s a little lighter here. I’m glad he’s part of the show, it’s an endearing dynamic.

U can argue it was a bad joke but not that hes an irl holo den

norm's bafflement and wonder when he's telling the sinbad story to fred stoller on his youtube show is the hardest i've laughed at anything in about 10 years. really enjoyed the netflix series, but would have liked a few more dumb sketches to open the show. it was a good mix of guests though.

Drew Barrymore's little girl really does look like ET, that's weird.

Jane Fonda's sweater kinda reminds me of what the Vancouver Canucks of the NHL wore in the 1980s. Just with some pink added.

Adam Eget still makes me uncomfortable. I don't like the icky Dom/sub relationship between Norm and him.

“British presenters, especially in the 90s, especially children’s presenters, turned out to be a cult of much evil”

Norm otm

Could probably throw in the irish in there too

Jesus janey’s doggie is the cutest little thing I’ve ever set eyes on

Adam Eget still makes me uncomfortable.

thank you

I mean yeah, it’s uncomfortable. Intentionally.

“Dom/Sub” maybe a little much. Jesus, that might ruin it for me.

Dom sub is great

More pls

Get that fella on a choke collar

Fa otm

Adam is a lucky sob but not funny at all.

God bless Chevy chase for shutting the sucker down

Judge judy episode js the worst one

Spade's was worst one (I've seen up to Fonda) for me. Almost didn't watch another one after seeing it.
I don't get the point of sidekick guy. Fonda's matter-of-fact "oh there always has to be a sidekick huh" was lol.

Side kicks make the host better, in theory. Proven false by John Baptiste from colbert who is a ducking moron. Norm doesn’t need Adam tho it’s a pity play

It’s cheap is what I mean. Fodder to riff off

right. I meant I don't get the point of this particular one. Agree w you.

jesus i never liked this shyamalan character and i sure as fuck don't like his interview

ha dom/sub captures why I find the relationship hard to watch but end up liking adam anyway

jus gonna skip the end of the judge judy ep, she seems like she has a little too much self-regard for this show

Norm doesn’t need Adam tho it’s a pity play

Eget absolutely doesn’t need to take time off from his day job as one of the most important ppl in American comedy to play dumb as Norm’s sidekick on a youtube show.

ha man keaton episode is another good one

gay and irish jokes to boot

8/10

adam eget is a treasure and the show would be nothing without his presence

i like the spade ep a lot

fav is probably jane fonda

worst is prob m night, not wild about judge judy but she's kind of interesting

adam is obviously 'bad' but he's bad in a funny way

Billy joe shaver ep was cool, not great and not the worst

The last episode is some real boring shit, which makes sense because it’s two canadians talking

It's undeniable he has always appealed to a frat-boy kind of crowd, the types who are extremely put-out that it's now considered unacceptable to use 'gay' and 'retarded' to mean 'bad/stupid' (terms Norm himself threw around frequently on his Youtube show). Jokes about Eget 'sucking guys off', hookers, women not being funny, etc. He's often tongue-in-cheek-but-not-really. I never quite liked that side to him; he's very intelligent and it often comes through but he falls back on the bro stuff constantly. In college (early 2000s) I remember his bit about 'are you really proud of your gay son?' -- morning jock types would laff and laff. Your Adam Corollas and Joe Rogans love him. And he has no qualms about cultivating that type of fanbase. It's very clear that he's coming from an anti-PC/conservative point of view. It's not like he's trying hard to hide it.

Personally, I don't like that side to his stuff. But I find myself wading through the crap to hear his funny bits about the Beverly Hillbillies and Kojak...

I always took the gay son bit to be a joke about well meaning parents overcompensating for their discomfort or trying extra hard to project that they are good parents. The joke being that sexuality isn’t an achievement, it’s just sexuality.

Maybe it is some sort of hyperspecific comment on something but I think it's more likely that he's just homophobic.

probably, yeah

There probably is some homophobia in it as well, I just don't think the punchline is "You say you're proud of your gay son, but actually being gay is shameful and gross." The punchline is more that what kind of sex your child has with whom is not normally in the category of things you say you are "proud" of.

that's a stupid joke, given that people aren't "proud" that they're children fuck other people of the same gender, they're "proud" of them for being brave enough to publicly endure discrimination as out, gay ppl

fuck this guy

their children

you know what I mean

"that's a stupid joke, given that 'orange' is a fruit and 'aren't you' is just a phrase and I certainly wouldn't 'orange' if someone didn't say banana after repeating it so many times"

lol u thought that was a good comparison

my defense starts with the fact that the joke is 20 years old, homophobic or not

and continues with, compared to his 90s comic peers like dennis miller who he sat across from when he most famously did the joke or the guys mentioned above, rogan and carolla, who built a career in later years off being hateful, dennis miller is senile now and is worried about ocasio-cortez death panels and carolla has turned into a stormfront guy, rogan is tweeting about white genocide in south africa and has devoted dozens of hours to promoting fascists to his tens of millions of viewers (20 mil viewers just totaling up the last 4 jp interviews, 7.5 m to watch rogan have a sitdown with ben shapiro)... i just think there's a difference between guys like miller, rogan, carolla or irony-poisoned millennial comedians that drop slurs and whine about how the tide is turning and you can't be offensive anymore, and a guy like norm macdonald that yeah definitely makes gay jokes but and seems out of touch but mostly thoughtful and not a hateful person and hosted gay and trans people on his show, and will be dead, realistically, within the next decade...

brb posting Norm's joke to the puns that you had missed thread

that's a stupid joke, given that people aren't "proud" that they're children fuck other people of the same gender, they're "proud" of them for being brave enough to publicly endure discrimination as out, gay ppl

it must be wild to have this thought, think to oneself "norm macdonald fans must not know this," and then follow through with sharing the thought on the norm macdonald thread.

tbf norm macdonald fans seem p stupid

in your mind, i've no doubt that they and many others must

I really have no concept of what a “typical” Norm fan looks like. I’m sure there’s some overlap with the bro-cast crew, but he’s popular amongst the uh... more discerning too.

Lol man is oustic brain ded or wut

hmmm he might have a point

^ norm stans

I think the premise of the "proud dad" bit is simply that "ew, gay sex is icky."

So I find that problematic. But I should say that I binged the whole Netflix series in two nights. I don't know -- I find them too short, so the laugh-out-loud bits are few and far between. He would do better with an hour and a half maybe.

It's better when he's interviewing his old buddies (the David Spade was good); some of the interviewees (Jane Fonda) seemed to have accidentally wandered on set. Although that show did have a moving observation from Norm about what a gift it is for Fonda to have hundreds of hours of footage of her father, whereas his memories of his father are fading into oblivion.

people who aren't norm macdonald

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(W. S. Merwin, who died yesterday)