Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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Hahaha good poster

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

this thread has accumulated roughly as many new answers since yesterday as the jlin thread has accumulated in three years

i think that is bad, not good

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link

i guess tbf half of those posts are me complaining about how overrated aphex twin is

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

is the jlin thread full of trolls trying to piss on people's enjoyment of the music

xp lol

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

Lol

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

it's not trolling to say you think music (a song, an album, an artist, artist's body of work for the last 10-15 years) isn't that good

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

eg

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band

― crüt

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band recent aphex better than jlin

― crüt

fixed

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:03 (five years ago) link

i regret nothing

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

i'm not sure anyone's arguing that recent aphex is better than jlin

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

I will

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

:P

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

i know, i know

just making a point about trolling vs dissent

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band recent aphex better than jlin big & rich

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (five years ago) link

in fact on the jlin thread i believe i made the argument that the only person even operating at her level is afx

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

Would pay crut to be my editor tbh

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:07 (five years ago) link

I’m cool with jlin if I got migraine pills handy

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

At least oval had sympathy for my broken discman

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

aw, i like black origami

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

recent aphex is better than autechre tho

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

I like kyanite a lot

Just like having fun cheers

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

Which way Dave

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link

recent aphex is better than autechre tho

slam the brakes buddy

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:15 (five years ago) link

Feels like a road runner cartoon

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

lol so many twists and turns on opinions dr

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

ZANY APHEX = NO THANK U

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

I like Jlin, and I'm glad Aphex Twin is learning something from her.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

at least they are not Sophie.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 20 September 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

I liked Cheetah better but this pretty good, especially “1st 44”

latebloomer, Thursday, 20 September 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link

Jed - what’s that mean about Sophie??

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:39 (five years ago) link

RDJ supposedly used an Elektron RYTM for parts of these tracks. You can sort of recognize its 'character' in the title track, but it's not so easy to identify. the RYTM is an eight-voice, analog drum synthesizer that also plays samples. There's a Pitchfork interview with James (and his wife?) from around the time Syro came out, and they mention the drum machine a few times (a gift from Elektron?) - it's a mk1 version of the RYTM, where you have to load samples using a computer. The MKII version (with improved functionality, display, size, appearance, etc.) came out just last year, and it's a sampler in the sense that you can just plug something into its input(s) and record (anything, using a 3.5 mm / 1/4" cable) directly. You can combine those samples with the sounds of the drum machine in a variety of ways. If you're at all familiar with Elektron step sequencers you'll know that using them can take a lot of preparation and forethought... volume/filter/envelope/effects parameters, sounds, sound behavior, their frequency of occurrence, logic conditions, etc. - it's all highly programmable / malleable, to a maddening extent. The workflow of the Elektron sequencer is not at all intuitive until you understand how it works. And then there are the pads of the RYTM, which add a whole 'nother level of control. The Texas band xuiqen uses Elektron machines, and their music (on the album moiré is the next best thing to Autechre (similar to Ae). I keep reading that Autechre used Elektron machines on both Untilted and Quaristice.. most likely the Machinedrum and the MonoMachine, both of which are badass / legendary synthesizers already. They're really expensive. Getting carried away with trivia, apologies. Been listening to the Collapse CD on the stereo this evening, and it is indeed FUN :)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWyVwR_MH1V2Rzo3wisFRgNw9lmVeZi1Z (btw)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 05:57 (five years ago) link

Poll: Lets Go Deep vs Stone In Focus

saer, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

It kinda sounds like two disparate tracks playing simultaneously..

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:07 (five years ago) link

i don't know if it's because Stone in Focus is so well-burned 'in' after all these years, but it doesn't seem to match up very well, as it doesn't 'reset' on same the bar / count, so as to lock in with the other track better.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

really like the new EP, I don't see it as him imitating himself (wtf does that mean?) as approaching a sort of classicism of the kind of techno he makes. I'm not a gearhead, I couldn't pretend to fully understand his process but I hear the material being mostly gestated out of the "character" of the gear he uses (and kind of what he's always done). I don't even know what "innovation" would look like for afx because he's always just made the music he wanted to hear himself.

clouds, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:20 (five years ago) link

but what if the music he wants to make for himself is boring

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link

It kinda sounds like two disparate tracks playing simultaneously..

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n),

It is! Just two records hanging out on the decks

saer, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

but what if the music he wants to make for himself is boring

― the late great, Sunday, October 7, 2018 1:42 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy shit man do you have an axe to grind. boring to you maybe lol

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:59 (five years ago) link

boring to me for sure

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

this is what we do on i love music, talk about music we don’t like

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

yeah all good man, tbh i would rather listen to other records but i did like this one (and found most of the last haul of afx pretty dire)

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link

saw two different versions of the LP yesterday at the record store, one with the regular cover and one with a silver cover, "first edition" or something. I didn't buy it, did I fuck up? they were the same price iirc

flappy bird, Sunday, 7 October 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link

I have the silver cover. I prefer the regular cover.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 8 October 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

ep's not the greatest, but track 3 slams...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 8 October 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

it's not boring to me; i find a lot to like about it. what isn't boring to you, by comparison?

clouds, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

It's good not great. It's far from a classic like, say, Windowlicker was as a single/EP, but the tracks are all quite memorable, save for the last one on the digital release.

It sounds like an evolution from Syro, but it's clear his days of wildly changing up his sounds on each track while still expressing his classic silliness and trollish personality are over and have been since 1998. It's not like he turned in utter trash like other artist comebacks (*cough* Pixies *cough*) but it's been 20 years now since he's released something that gave me the feels of nearly all his classics up to and including Windowlicker. Wish he'd developed his sound more over the years and kept using laptops. His move to go back to all analog gear pulled back the complexity of his sonic palette. And not for the better.

Drukqs is his New Jersey.

octobeard, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link

^^good post/summary, IMO

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

20 years now

the Flow Coma remix was released in 2001

i too wish he'd go back to digital, release some sonically new and wild stuff etc. he's going the other way, endgame for him is making insanely detailed weird little Cornish jewelboxes with no right angles and absolute freedom of line

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

the most frustrating thing for me about recent afx is that he can do a track like XMAS on Syro, with those gorgeous pads that briefly enter and then fuck around for the rest of it..his music is challenging at times for me as a listener, not that it is inaccessible but that it feels like a constant give and take now. Mind you the new EP is great

searching for Kelilah (Ross), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

It seems like people who cherish 90s Aphex Twin will almost certainly be disappointed by anything he's released after Windowlicker? Hard to say. I had heard bits and pieces of SAW vol. 2, then came aboard with Drukqs (because of the disklavier tracks) ... it took me a while to warm to the more aggressive "drill n bass" stuff, but by the time The Tuss eps came around (2006?) I was fully on board, anticipating new releases, etc. Drukqs is certainly a high water mark, imo. The new ep is excellent.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:49 (five years ago) link


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