Lana Del Rey - Norman Fucking Rockwell (2019)

Who hurt u

If the consensus is to shut it down, Ok

i like the deluxe version with all the tracks in reverse order that costs twice as much and came out a year later

i also like the deluxe version of this thread that has all the posts in reverse order and came out in 2025

album of the year

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. I don't see why we need a new thread suddenly just because she has a new album. The beauty of the Lana thread was that it occurred and flowed just like her career, following her twists and turns. I don't get the need for a new thread at all.

it's a bit nice that the other thread had all the hate, most of which has dwindled because why the fuck would anyone hate lana

Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.

― enochroot, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:05 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Either use bookmarks or get a better browser. It's not complicated. If ilx-threads (of all things online) crash your browser, it's you, not ilx.

The other thread had a lot of hate tbh

― Ross, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is such a lame take.

Alright, keep it to the other thread. I’m just a nerd

Dude lbi you now.....

Lock thread mod please

et tu, Bateau?

There was love, there was hate, and now there was love again. a) who cares and reads back to the hate, when b) there is love now?

idgi

Lbi being harsh itt for real

Assuming we all have the same internet plan.

Lbi I don’t even have the internet

Chill on assumptions. I’m out of this thread

No need to talk to Enochroot like that

Ross, <3 u man but this doesn't seem worthy to brawl about. Use a bookmark and the thread won't load all 1000s of messages.

Okay cool no sweat

In my defence I created a thread for the new Florence album after ceremonials thread seemed irrelevant. Didn’t know that there are some Ilx rules I didn’t understand about general threads for artists.

et tu, Bateau?

― imago, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:05 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://i.giphy.com/media/9RNapaMXnaZhK/200.gif

Imagine there's only one Radiohead thread
I wonder if you cann

If there was only Radiohead thread, then I assume it would be this one:
Radiohead LP9 Anticipation, Fangirling and random Cheesecake Thread (Do not read if you hate Radiohead or us)

well, i actually didn't know about bookmarks until just now, so i guess thanks bateau for being a jerk?

(but seriously, expand all the posts on the "pitchfork is dumb" thread, scroll to the bottom, and tell me your browser doesn't crash)

I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.

It's a good idea for the album to have a thread after it's been released or there are more tracks to discuss, this thread launch is maybe a bit premature, that's all.

I'm p sure I wasn't a jerk, Enochroot. It was just a tip. Beyond that, I feel the original Lana thread served all our Lana purposes, and I didn't and don't see the need for anew thread. Also because the original Lana thread tracks her evolution - and ours, reaction to it - so succinctly.

album title alone deserves its own thread

gay album title imo

picturing mr roper bangin the dude who sang somebody's watching me

Dammit. I was just about to make that same joke.

gay album title imo

― rip van wanko, Wednesday, September 19, 2018

It's not called Get Thee Behind Me, Sailor

Except with the guy from Psycho instead of Three's Company.

lmao that she has another (very nice) new one called "How to Disappear" -- she really wants to keep baiting Radiohead huh

where'd that slip out to? youtube?

played live at some apple thing

https://youtu.be/m3tkGiOx85k

it's a tiresome and rockist observation, but still! seeing artists you like performing and corporate events is just depressing. it being apple she probably got $150k for an afternoon's work and I don't begrudge here

oops sorry, "at"/"her"

why? take the money and run

the majority of venues she performs at are owned by corporations, what is the difference?

audience

i feel like this and the 1975 record are never coming out

take the money and run

^^Her next slowcore cover.

this has been happening for ages, no? just more commonly recorded/broadcast online now

having to change "bitch" to "chick" in a room of adults, in 2018, is also a bit depressing

Been repeat-listening to "Mariners Apartment Complex" this week when walking through all the yellow/gold leaves.

does anyone not like "venice bitch" cuz i don't

"mariners apartment complex" is v nice tho

god bless lana del rey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2LUmLw_DQ

another winner

For real.

yeah but it also had that sublime cover the label made her include so it would have a radio hit

(that's not to knock it, i really like that cover, but it kind of messes up the flow of the record)

arguably this is still very commercial, her demo has just changed definitively to Mojo readers

she has fully embraced her inner boomer

At her first run of gigs proper (i saw her first ever show weirdly enough) the audience was *very* Mojo; a pretty polite, sedate vibe, she'd been getting a lot of play on BBC6 etc. It was only later on that the first 10 rows became screaming teens.

she's always had that thing that billie eilish does too, at least based on Facebook, where guys my age post about it and say "I usually don't like pop music but this is good"

well like "video games" initially blew up with the indie music press and then she soon crossed over to a mainstream pop audience from there but never fully committed to chasing it long-term so she's just settled with a decent cult following

Have the screaming teens stayed her fans (or been replaced by newer screaming teens), or have they moved on to younger stars?

I saw her on the NFR tour and it was a more sedate crowd all around than when I saw her several years ago (at the Shoreline) where it was 98% screaming girls with interesting eyeliner and hesitation marks.

is that baez on 'for free'?

that's weyes blood

ah. great baez impression then

This album is amazing when high

also a million lols at 'the men in music business conference'

I think the whole lyric is pretty great tbh, and I like those moments on the album where she tries to cram in as many syllables as possible. there's gotta be honesty in there because who would lie about jamming out to kings of leon

that song is a great character study that treats it's subject with equal scorn and empathy

also: fucking jack antanoff. this guy is probably my favorite working producer now (neck and neck with inflo). funny because his own music does nothing for me, but every other album he works on sounds amazing.

Is she using more falsetto than normal? I find it wearying.

mainly on the opener iirc?

i like the raspy thing she does on it

Yeah I love the way she sings the word "OrLANdo" on that song

Falsetto's all over the album.

It's only really grating on the first track, though. I almost bailed out.

there is a lot of falsetto but most of it is layered, multi-tracked vocals, which she hasn't done quite to this extent before. I like it.

it's weird that she repurposes so much of "how to disappear" for "wild at heart" but i think "wild at heart" ends up being an improvement?

Like, wow Tulsa Jesus Freak; comfortably in her top few songs ever list.

I'm stuck on the title track, which I managed to not hear until now. It's really amazing. I wish the video for it werent so cheesy

does she have any music videos that aren't really?

Excited to listen to this album with all of my rapper friends.

Starting listening to it. Really like the first track.
Shouldn't there be a new thread for his album ?

I adore this.

at this point she makes Pretty Good Lana Records and Really Good Lana Records. I think on balance this is a Pretty Good Lana Record.

she only has three albums i'd rate as 'pretty good' or better and this one is 'really good' to me

pls save me from a new fleet of thinkpieces about ldr jesus christ

reaction to this one seems much less hyperbolic and overwhelming compared to NFR (or BTD) so you may get lucky. This seems to be nestled into a Honeymoon sort of PR rollout.

The Pitchfork review makes it sound like a mere undergraduate degree in semiotics is not sufficient to fully appreciate this artist or album.

^ha ha... well, ok man. I actually think that all of Pfork's LDR reviews are pretty solid; including when they make critical judgments (and even if I don't necessarily agree with every take or point of emphasis).

This album has grown on me, in the months that I've been listening intensively to LDR's catalog. At first, I thought it was too soggy, soft-edged, and overlong; and that it suffered in comparison with the albums that followed it. But I find that when you're in the mood for the ~vibe~, it really is impressive. (I would still probably lose "Bartender"... it feels "songwriter-y" in a way that doesn't work for me, and I think it intrudes on that final stretch of songs.)

This is very minor errata… but the instrumental bridge section of “How to Disappear” sounds a lot to me like “Wild at Heart” (which allegedly was intended for NFR!, but cut from the final tracklist).

Can someone with a better ear confirm if it’s the same chords(?)

it's weird that she repurposes so much of "how to disappear" for "wild at heart" but i think "wild at heart" ends up being an improvement?

― ufo, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link

I'm sitting in a coffee shop that's playing through this album. I forgot how good it is, I still think it's her best.

yeah it is

still don't know why O.B. from Hollyoaks is on the cover

xxxp Thanks, I missed that!