I'm not anybody's mom or anything, but one generic LDR thread seemed to be handling the discussion of this not yet released album just fine, and will do fine after it comes out as well.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link
Don't people find those mega-threads unwieldy? The "pitchfork is dumb" thread crashes my browser if I try to expand it. Granted, LDR only has 3000 posts or so, but still, I'm not sure I totally get the anti-proliferation mentality.
― enochroot, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
I was so bowled over by "Venice Bitch" I didn't properly appreciate the new, down-to-earth Lana on "Mariners Apartment Complex"
They mistook my kindness for weaknessI fucked up, I know that, but JesusCan't a girl just do the best she can?
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
i also like threads for new albums because it alerts me to something new from an artist i don't care enough about to check their one thread whenever it's updated.
― macropuente (map), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:13 (five years ago) link
The other thread had a lot of hate tbh
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
this album is terrible
― Mighty Seething Bat (sic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
Who hurt u
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link
If the consensus is to shut it down, Ok
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
i like the deluxe version with all the tracks in reverse order that costs twice as much and came out a year later
― akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
i also like the deluxe version of this thread that has all the posts in reverse order and came out in 2025
― akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
album of the year
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:55 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes. I don't see why we need a new thread suddenly just because she has a new album. The beauty of the Lana thread was that it occurred and flowed just like her career, following her twists and turns. I don't get the need for a new thread at all.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link
it's a bit nice that the other thread had all the hate, most of which has dwindled because why the fuck would anyone hate lana
― akm, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
― enochroot, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:05 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Either use bookmarks or get a better browser. It's not complicated. If ilx-threads (of all things online) crash your browser, it's you, not ilx.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link
― Ross, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:40 PM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This is such a lame take.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
Alright, keep it to the other thread. I’m just a nerd
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
Dude lbi you now.....
Lock thread mod please
et tu, Bateau?
― imago, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
There was love, there was hate, and now there was love again. a) who cares and reads back to the hate, when b) there is love now?
idgi
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
Lbi being harsh itt for real
Assuming we all have the same internet plan.
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
Lbi I don’t even have the internet
Chill on assumptions. I’m out of this thread
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link
No need to talk to Enochroot like that
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link
Ross, <3 u man but this doesn't seem worthy to brawl about. Use a bookmark and the thread won't load all 1000s of messages.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
Okay cool no sweat
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
In my defence I created a thread for the new Florence album after ceremonials thread seemed irrelevant. Didn’t know that there are some Ilx rules I didn’t understand about general threads for artists.
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, September 19, 2018 10:05 PM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
https://i.giphy.com/media/9RNapaMXnaZhK/200.gif
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Imagine there's only one Radiohead threadI wonder if you cann
― Mark G, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
If there was only Radiohead thread, then I assume it would be this one:Radiohead LP9 Anticipation, Fangirling and random Cheesecake Thread (Do not read if you hate Radiohead or us)
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
well, i actually didn't know about bookmarks until just now, so i guess thanks bateau for being a jerk?
(but seriously, expand all the posts on the "pitchfork is dumb" thread, scroll to the bottom, and tell me your browser doesn't crash)
― enochroot, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
It's a good idea for the album to have a thread after it's been released or there are more tracks to discuss, this thread launch is maybe a bit premature, that's all.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
I'm p sure I wasn't a jerk, Enochroot. It was just a tip. Beyond that, I feel the original Lana thread served all our Lana purposes, and I didn't and don't see the need for anew thread. Also because the original Lana thread tracks her evolution - and ours, reaction to it - so succinctly.
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:41 (five years ago) link
album title alone deserves its own thread
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:03 (five years ago) link
gay album title imo
― rip van wanko, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link
picturing mr roper bangin the dude who sang somebody's watching me
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link
Dammit. I was just about to make that same joke.
― MarkoP, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
― rip van wanko, Wednesday, September 19, 2018
It's not called Get Thee Behind Me, Sailor
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Except with the guy from Psycho instead of Three's Company.
lmao that she has another (very nice) new one called "How to Disappear" -- she really wants to keep baiting Radiohead huh
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
where'd that slip out to? youtube?
― akm, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
played live at some apple thing
https://youtu.be/m3tkGiOx85k
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
it's a tiresome and rockist observation, but still! seeing artists you like performing and corporate events is just depressing. it being apple she probably got $150k for an afternoon's work and I don't begrudge here
― rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
oops sorry, "at"/"her"
― rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
why? take the money and run
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:43 (five years ago) link
the majority of venues she performs at are owned by corporations, what is the difference?
― flappy bird, Friday, 2 November 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
audience
― rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
i feel like this and the 1975 record are never coming out
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
take the money and run
^^Her next slowcore cover.
― The Greta Van Gerwig (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 November 2018 19:41 (five years ago) link
this has been happening for ages, no? just more commonly recorded/broadcast online now
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 2 November 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link
having to change "bitch" to "chick" in a room of adults, in 2018, is also a bit depressing
― rip van wanko, Friday, 2 November 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
also feels much less emotionally turbulent than NFR!, I suspect lots of quarantine meditation
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
I suspect lots of quarantine medication
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link
i read the lyrics to white dress and hahahahhahaha no
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link
somewhat ironically brad I listened to that one and wondered aloud "is this a coded message to taylor"
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 March 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
this album is the most aggressively uncommercial thing she's released so far.
― akm, Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link
The last album had a nine-and-a-half-minute song, fully half of which was an extended synth solo. It also had "fucking" in its title.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 March 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link
yeah but it also had that sublime cover the label made her include so it would have a radio hit
― akm, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link
(that's not to knock it, i really like that cover, but it kind of messes up the flow of the record)
― akm, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
arguably this is still very commercial, her demo has just changed definitively to Mojo readers
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link
she has fully embraced her inner boomer
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
At her first run of gigs proper (i saw her first ever show weirdly enough) the audience was *very* Mojo; a pretty polite, sedate vibe, she'd been getting a lot of play on BBC6 etc. It was only later on that the first 10 rows became screaming teens.
― piscesx, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link
she's always had that thing that billie eilish does too, at least based on Facebook, where guys my age post about it and say "I usually don't like pop music but this is good"
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link
well like "video games" initially blew up with the indie music press and then she soon crossed over to a mainstream pop audience from there but never fully committed to chasing it long-term so she's just settled with a decent cult following
― ufo, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link
Have the screaming teens stayed her fans (or been replaced by newer screaming teens), or have they moved on to younger stars?
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 March 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link
I saw her on the NFR tour and it was a more sedate crowd all around than when I saw her several years ago (at the Shoreline) where it was 98% screaming girls with interesting eyeliner and hesitation marks.
― akm, Thursday, 11 March 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link
is that baez on 'for free'?
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 12 March 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
that's weyes blood
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 12 March 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link
ah. great baez impression then
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Friday, 12 March 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
This album is amazing when high
― akm, Friday, 12 March 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link
also a million lols at 'the men in music business conference'
― akm, Friday, 12 March 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link
I think the whole lyric is pretty great tbh, and I like those moments on the album where she tries to cram in as many syllables as possible. there's gotta be honesty in there because who would lie about jamming out to kings of leon
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 12 March 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link
that song is a great character study that treats it's subject with equal scorn and empathy
― akm, Friday, 12 March 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link
also: fucking jack antanoff. this guy is probably my favorite working producer now (neck and neck with inflo). funny because his own music does nothing for me, but every other album he works on sounds amazing.
― akm, Friday, 12 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link
Is she using more falsetto than normal? I find it wearying.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 March 2021 11:15 (three years ago) link
mainly on the opener iirc?
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 March 2021 13:17 (three years ago) link
i like the raspy thing she does on it
― ufo, Saturday, 13 March 2021 13:17 (three years ago) link
Yeah I love the way she sings the word "OrLANdo" on that song
― J. Sam, Saturday, 13 March 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link
Falsetto's all over the album.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:19 (three years ago) link
It's only really grating on the first track, though. I almost bailed out.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:20 (three years ago) link
there is a lot of falsetto but most of it is layered, multi-tracked vocals, which she hasn't done quite to this extent before. I like it.
― akm, Saturday, 13 March 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link
it's weird that she repurposes so much of "how to disappear" for "wild at heart" but i think "wild at heart" ends up being an improvement?
― ufo, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:41 (three years ago) link
Like, wow Tulsa Jesus Freak; comfortably in her top few songs ever list.
― piscesx, Friday, 19 March 2021 00:49 (three years ago) link
I'm stuck on the title track, which I managed to not hear until now. It's really amazing. I wish the video for it werent so cheesy
― akm, Friday, 19 March 2021 03:18 (three years ago) link
does she have any music videos that aren't really?
― ufo, Friday, 19 March 2021 03:56 (three years ago) link
Excited to listen to this album with all of my rapper friends.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 March 2021 10:56 (three years ago) link
Starting listening to it. Really like the first track.Shouldn't there be a new thread for his album ?
― AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 19 March 2021 11:20 (three years ago) link
I adore this.
― triggercut, Friday, 19 March 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link
at this point she makes Pretty Good Lana Records and Really Good Lana Records. I think on balance this is a Pretty Good Lana Record.
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Friday, 19 March 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link
she only has three albums i'd rate as 'pretty good' or better and this one is 'really good' to me
― ufo, Friday, 19 March 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link
pls save me from a new fleet of thinkpieces about ldr jesus christ
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 19 March 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link
reaction to this one seems much less hyperbolic and overwhelming compared to NFR (or BTD) so you may get lucky. This seems to be nestled into a Honeymoon sort of PR rollout.
― akm, Saturday, 20 March 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
The Pitchfork review makes it sound like a mere undergraduate degree in semiotics is not sufficient to fully appreciate this artist or album.
― beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Saturday, 20 March 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link
^ha ha... well, ok man. I actually think that all of Pfork's LDR reviews are pretty solid; including when they make critical judgments (and even if I don't necessarily agree with every take or point of emphasis).
This album has grown on me, in the months that I've been listening intensively to LDR's catalog. At first, I thought it was too soggy, soft-edged, and overlong; and that it suffered in comparison with the albums that followed it. But I find that when you're in the mood for the ~vibe~, it really is impressive. (I would still probably lose "Bartender"... it feels "songwriter-y" in a way that doesn't work for me, and I think it intrudes on that final stretch of songs.)
― Unidentified rogue Jedi (morrisp), Wednesday, 17 May 2023 23:55 (eleven months ago) link
This is very minor errata… but the instrumental bridge section of “How to Disappear” sounds a lot to me like “Wild at Heart” (which allegedly was intended for NFR!, but cut from the final tracklist). Can someone with a better ear confirm if it’s the same chords(?)
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Thursday, 5 October 2023 04:58 (six months ago) link
it's weird that she repurposes so much of "how to disappear" for "wild at heart" but i think "wild at heart" ends up being an improvement?― ufo, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link
― ufo, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:41 (two years ago) link
― just sayin, Thursday, 5 October 2023 05:33 (six months ago) link
I'm sitting in a coffee shop that's playing through this album. I forgot how good it is, I still think it's her best.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 24 November 2023 21:18 (four months ago) link
yeah it is
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 24 November 2023 21:57 (four months ago) link
still don't know why O.B. from Hollyoaks is on the cover
― PaulTMA, Friday, 24 November 2023 22:32 (four months ago) link
xxxp Thanks, I missed that!
― This field is required (morrisp), Friday, 24 November 2023 22:42 (four months ago) link