The Great ILX Gun Control Debate

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hey let's not quibble about who deserves to fall where on the Dante-levels-of-Hell scale

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

$500? damn

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

what a scumbag

maura, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

not that it matters all that much in the scheme of things but why was he charged with sexual assault instead of solicitation or statutory rape?

Nhex, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

dammn that's cold work MAD

Nhex, Friday, 5 October 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

good for them.

El Tomboto, Friday, 5 October 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link

also nice inclusion of the fucking useless metal detector

El Tomboto, Friday, 5 October 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A kid was shot and killed at school this morning and they’re continuing on with classes like nothing happened. We’re completely desensitized to violence. This is the new normal in America. https://t.co/2pDfxiOwna

— Dylan (@dyllyp) October 29, 2018

Karl Malone, Monday, 29 October 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link

fucking awful.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 29 October 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

This NYMag piece was tears this morning. I don't know how fix America. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/10/school-shooting-survivors.html

Yerac, Monday, 29 October 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

congrats on doing the bare minimum

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 December 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

NRA’s presences is remarkably low-key to absent at #CPAC2019

No Wayne LaPierre — a CPAC mainstay — or Dana Loesch, fixture in recent years. Ollie North spoke earlier, but he has different public image, not so associated w/NRA.

Panel right now on guns, no one from NRA.

— Michelangelo Signorile (@MSignorile) February 28, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 28 February 2019 19:56 (five years ago) link

Laying low, waiting for all the Russian collusion stuff to blow over and be forgotten.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 28 February 2019 20:06 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

An active-shooter training exercise at an Indiana elementary school in January left teachers with welts, bruises and abrasions after they were shot with plastic pellets by the local sheriff’s office conducting the session.

The incident, acknowledged in testimony this week before state lawmakers, was confirmed by two elementary school teachers in Monticello, who described an exercise in which teachers were asked by local law enforcement to kneel down against a classroom wall before being sprayed across their backs with plastic pellets without warning.

“They told us, ‘This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing,’” said one of the two teachers, both of whom asked IndyStar not to be identified out of concern for their jobs. “They shot all of us across our backs. I was hit four times.

“It hurt so bad.”

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/21/active-shooter-training-for-schools-teachers-shot-with-plastic-pellets/3231103002/

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:25 (five years ago) link

Ban pellet guns.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:38 (five years ago) link

Ban small town Hoosier law enforcement imo and ime.

Soupy Slacks (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 March 2019 19:39 (five years ago) link

A sad tribute to Jeremy Richman, who lost his daughter at Sandy Hook:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/mar/31/sandy-hook-shooting-suicide-parents-fake-news-conspiracy

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 March 2019 15:28 (five years ago) link

the statement from his wife... I can't imagine

“My champion and the love of my life is the person who had every tool in the toolbox at his disposal … he succumbed to the grief that he could not escape. To parent our children without my champion shatters my heart and I will love my best friend forever.”

ogmor, Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:01 (five years ago) link

what hurt was reading how much he and his wife suffered every time there was another shooting, and how many people must be in their same shoes. there just isn't any escape with the frequency that shootings occur.

pippin drives a lambo through the gates of isengard (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:13 (five years ago) link

some pig fucking troll was walking around the national mall this weekend wearing a t-shirt that said "MY 30-ROUND MAG IDENTIFIES AS A 10 - I'M OKAY RIGHT?" and I have to live the rest of my days with the knowledge that I didn't spot him soon enough to grab his belt and chuck him into the tidal basin

El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

you all know without my saying that he was bald, white, late 40s, and the shirt was black with white IMPACT lettering

El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:14 (five years ago) link

wtf "bald" is this a murderous characteristic

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:17 (five years ago) link

yes obviously it goes right along with everything else I said everyone becomes a twat when they turn 46, lose their melanin and start wearing black t-shirts

El Tomboto, Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link

there but for the grace of god

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 22:28 (five years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/supreme-court-allows-families-of-sandy-hook-shooting-victims-to-sue-gunmaker-remington/2019/11/12/7f6a3afe-055a-11ea-b17d-8b867891d39d_story.html

The Supreme Court on Tuesday turned down an appeal from the gun industry intended to block a lawsuit from families of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting victims.
The decision lets stand a groundbreaking ruling from the Connecticut Supreme Court that said the manufacturer of the Bushmaster AR-15-style semiautomatic rifle can be sued and potentially held liable for the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Conn.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

that's very good news. now if we can just luck out so the next few mass shootings are clustered around the same day or two, and at least one of them can involve an especially tragic group of victims, we might start to get some movement on this in congress as well

at home in the alternate future, (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

let's see, maybe an orphanage and a convent would do the trick, but only if the shooters were aiming for the world record.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this is slightly orwellian but slightly.... awesome?

https://www.shotspotter.com/technology/

Apparently this came into play at that party in Chicago.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

What an innovative way to deal with the problem of too many guns! Granted, it does nothing to reduce the number of guns or shootings or victims or deaths or wounding, but it sure does solve that other major problem of figuring out where all that gunfire is coming from!

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

Yes too little too late probably.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 December 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/feds-publish-info-on-arizona-lead-contamination-from-shooting-11438893

what a shitty fucking hobby. (there's also the noise pollution. I was out on an otherwise lovely hike by Prescott Saturday, marred only by the near constant sound of gunfire from an unofficial range on public land 5 miles away.)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

hmm, interesting. the trump admin should issue a revised rule to exempt Table Mesa from lead contamination regulations. that would make the problem go away

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/06/05/california-assault-weapons-ban-overturned/

California’s longtime assault weapon ban overturned

U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez of the Southern District of California said the ban was unconstitutional and warmly praised such firearms: “Like the Swiss Army Knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment.”

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

get me out of heeeeeeeeeere

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

the swiss army knife is a perfect combo of "home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment"?? what?! even before the AR-15 is mentioned, what? i have a swiss army knife - it is a perfect combo of NEITHER of those things.

god this country is creepy

Karl Malone, Saturday, 5 June 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment

They say the best defense is a good offense. Therefore, the ability to kill or maim a dozen or so people in less than a minute is a very good defense. But of course no one would ever do something like that unless they were defending the homela... uh, nvm.

What's It All About, Althea? (Aimless), Saturday, 5 June 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

the easy parallel between the home (property, the family) and the homeland (nation) is telling somehow. more or less explicitly saying who it’s for & who it’s against. the guns are literally the border(s) in this scenario

Left, Saturday, 5 June 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

homeland defense, fucking insurrections dogwhistle

brimstead, Sunday, 6 June 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

i do however think it would be great for this country if everyone concerned about "homeland defense" were to trade in their AR-15s for that equally perfect killing machine, the Swiss Army Knife.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

The judge is clearly out of touch, presumably he meant “tactical leatherman” rather than Swiss Army Knife. You ever tried to get that little blade out in a moment of stress?

Joe Bombin (milo z), Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

no, but that's because i drink tactical coffee to boost my perception so that i eliminate the stress threat before it approaches

Karl Malone, Sunday, 6 June 2021 19:08 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

Woke up this morning to the news that there was a car chase and shootout more or less right on my street at midnight last night. I totally slept through it, but when I mentioned it to my daughter her eyes lit up and she said "I saw it!" I was all, wait, what? And she said she was woken up around midnight by what she thought were fireworks - pop! pop pop! - and opened her blinds a little to see what was going on just in time to witness two cars zooming down the street, shooting at each other, muzzles flashing.

Most frightening of all, she seems totally unfazed. Though it is, of course, very disturbing, and the sort of random violence that often leads to random shootings. This is all related to and spillover from what appears to be a wave of car chases and shootouts on the highway, which is itself pretty insane.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Don’t you live in a relatively peaceful suburb too?

A Pile of Ants (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 7 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Yeah, but it's barely a suburb. It's literally right next to the west side of Chicago, so there is always nearby stuff. But this is happening all over the city, as I understand it. It's not a war zone or anything, but it's become pretty regular.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

I never used to hear gunfire when I was hiking. Now I hear shooters popping off on just about every other hike.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 7 November 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

I hope this happens more often:

Georgia gun laws are to blame for the cancellation of the 2022 Music Midtown festival in Atlanta, Georgia.

On Monday, Live Nation announced that the festival was canceled, stating only, “due to circumstances beyond our control, Music Midtown will no longer be taking place this year. We are looking forward to reuniting in September and hope we can get back to enjoying the festival together again soon.” The festival was set to take place in September with Jack White, Future, My Chemical Romance, and Fall Out Boy headlining. An estimated 50,000 people attended Music Midtown in 2021.

Though Live Nation did not officially give a reason for the cancellation, sources who worked with the festival confirmed to Rolling Stone that Georgia’s gun laws were to blame. Since 2011, Music Midtown has taken place at Piedmont Park in Atlanta, and parks are among the various public spaces in Georgia where guns are allowed to be carried. The festival, as a temporary user of the park, does not have the standing to supersede that law and enforce its own ban. (The festival’s website stated that “Weapons or explosives of any kind” are prohibited.)

I think a particular challenge is that a lot of artists have a "no weapons allowed" policy in their contract, which ... makes sense!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 August 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link


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