I get frustrated with RDJ cause he seems to pump out endless variations of tracks in the style of his I never cared much for (hyper, aggressive, busy) and very very few of the style I do like (slower, trippy, contemplative).
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
I'm listening to "RDJ Album" now... so good
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
yes
i am totally not jaded, i just listened to ICBYD last night with nearly as much joy and wonderment as i felt first hearing it 21+ years ago
and then this morning i tried the new one again and made it 1.5 tracks in before i got bored
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
Cow Cud Is Still a Twin in 2018
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
I don’t have much time for his newer stuff either other than cheetah. Rep for icbyd, polynomial c, on and all the ambient ones. I think it’s also a case of saturation for me, I was obsessed with afx in high school and drukqs felt like a good jumping off point. I think it’s changed tastes for me as I’ve also found it hard to get into new aurechre due to breadth of material. Also i like less difficult music in general as I’m getting old and a big softie now
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
Also if afx is repping jlin then I know my tastes aren’t really in the wheelhouse anymore
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
"Acrid Avid Jam Shred" is seriously one of the greatest opening traxx of any album
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
vahid, granny, what did you think of cheetah
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
i felt that cheetah was relatively fresh
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
*furrows brow, moves left foot a quarter turn while holding hands in ready position*
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
Oh shit!! I've always wanted to find this (and here it is) --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiXoIZ7pf9g
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
having a party still not my idea of a fantasy in 2018
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
maybe if people listened to better music they wouldn't constantly need to seek out new musicactually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?
actually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
so should I listen to this y/n
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
ok to clarify a bit RDJ has made a career out of innovation and overhaul and discovery and creating new types of sounds, like even when the Analord stuff was hella retro throwback, it didn't sound identical to anything he'd done before
this sounds identical to lots of stuff he'd done before, like this literally sounds like outtakes from druqks or RDJ album
when I say "I just question why we need more music like this in 2018" I mean I'm kind of underwhelmed when someone who for so long presented new ideas presents old ideas
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWTZk0sMS4
one example from the new ep
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
constantly trying to present new ideas is what leads to shitty "difficult" music. obv I have no idea what he was thinking about back then, but maybe he just was making sounds that he liked? and they happened to be "new ideas"? and he's still producing sounds that he likes, whether they're new to listeners or not.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
haven't heard cheetah!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Nobody makes music like this, as good as this--that might be part of why some find it enjoyable. Who is overrating it, Pitchfork!?
well i daresay you're overrating it
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
when you say "nobody makes music as good as this"
it sorta helps when you're not anticipating / expecting anything. I suppose it also helps if you hold Drukqs, Analord, and the Tuss in high esteem.
you keep contradicting yourself!
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
see also upthread when you said it was simultaneously hurried and unhurried!
see also when p sherburne said in his pfork review that it was both random like a demolition derby and precise like a laser guided missile
i mean this is part of what i'm reacting to - the praise i'm hearing seems ... incoherent
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
describing music.. generalizing descriptions, so as to try to relate it coherently... you're bound to fail, fuck up, miss the mark, etc.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
This is the bewildering line for me in Sherburne's review:
There have been times in James’ career when his knowing smirk threatened to eclipse the music.
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
Ok, so we are overrating current Aphex Twin music. I find these tunes stimulating and enjoyable in unique ways.. it scratches a particular itch. I honestly wasn't expecting much after Cheetah.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
granny listen to cheetah! it's my favorite new Aphex stuff since a while. and it's slow.
finally listening to this ... wow clear Jlin vibes, on 1st 44 at least
it's easier for me to enjoy this when I forget his "stature" and imagine I'm with a bunch of high people putting out cigarettes in soda bottles in a room with dirty couches
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
boy howdy everyone sometimes it's good to be a casual fan
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
ok I listened to Cheetah. It's...ok. Def more in the vein that I enjoy, but I can't see myself returning to it much. Kinda bedroom techno by numbers. All the tracks sound similar and lack intrigue. Whereas ICBYD and his other stuff I liked, each track had its own personality. Variety of moods, emotions textures, melodies/harmonies, diff sounds on the drums/rhythms. Maybe I'm just older and JADED but I just hear "here's some shit I made on vintage equipment, I'm gonna go poop out another 200 of these tracks tomorrow". Sorry I hate to hate on stuff, I really do. I'll give it another shot in a few days or so tho.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
^^this nails it better I than I did/could
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
guys this EP is great
I get all that stuff upthread as it applies to Syro or Cheetah or that collection of orphaned AFX tracks but the stuff on here is so much bouncier and fun
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
CHEETAH IS A GROWER *runs out of room sobbing*
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link
The only Aphex Twin which ever did anything zo me was Didgeridoo. I guess the reason is that it sounds organic and is hypnotic at the same time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkFBQ6sIcc
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
lol
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link
i like cheetah, it has some nice bit-crushed esque thin synths that sound really crystalline
but yeah i see what dainger is saying about the vintage equipment angle which kind of is the whole deal if you like it or not, the record is very understated and the beats are super rudimentary - i like that, but mostly as a reaction to the overly cerebral stuff he does like music for machines or whatever that one was called.
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
Is there any indication or claim that this stuff is new, as in, even recorded recently?
track 2 has an obvious jlin influence
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
Yeah and he’s been playing jlin in dj sets
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link
alex in manhattan, what abt this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQXMvX1HRA8
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link
not sure about the rest but "MT1 t29r2" rules
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link
I love that, Steve. Especially before the computer beats arrive ;-) To be honest, I find this kind of thing, spinning an acoustic theme further with electronic sounds quite interesting and in this case even successful.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 05:04 (five years ago) link
He might not be breaking new ground but unlike this more than a lot of his other stuff since his reemergence.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
I don't know about Jlin (not enough triplets), but the half-time breakdown w/claps is a giveaway that he's heard some music in the last decade.
I could definitely see him loving Jlin as as contemporary template for super dense/busy beats though.
― change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
yeah people are guessing that cuz, like Ross said, he plays her stuff out
eg he played 4 Jlin tracks in his set in Houston
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:39 (five years ago) link
not sure about the rest but "MT1 t29r2" rules― reggae mike love (polyphonic)
― reggae mike love (polyphonic)
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
attaboy
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
What you mean I don't know good music, I have Disco Duck on 45
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link
a disco duck 45? sounds like you are a connoisseur of novelty / comedy music, therefore an ideal listener for late-period aphex
― the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
I listened to this and it sounds great. I can get why some people think he's going through the motions of they only listened to the title track.
― crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
I really like this ep
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link