it's been prompted before, but why do we need any more music like ___ _____, et al -- in 2018, 2020, 2050 etc.
99% of the time we don't
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:43 (five years ago) link
new music is super overrated.
maybe if people listened to better music they wouldn't constantly need to seek out new music
actually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
Is there any indication or claim that this stuff is new, as in, even recorded recently?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
good question
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:48 (five years ago) link
xp
it is kind of like when basic channel happened and then spawned a million dub techno imitators and a huge dub techno scene that overall just wasn't that great
except in this case it's aphex cutting out the middle man and imitating himself over and over again
nothing wrong with some tunes iirc
― crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link
Lates opinions about new music are pretty whack
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
one can listen to old or new music, some of us you know love music and haven’t become jaded
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link
don't really get the complaints. it's not like some blatant *retread (not even subtly) - it's a welcome new Aphex ep, with masterful tunes. The guy sounds reinvigorated. If you're hearing self-parody then you're not really listening.
*like Malkmus on Real Emotional Trash--he actually quotes chord progressions / vocal melodies/-isms from Pavement tunes.. dunno if it's conscious or not
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
xp it's true, you can listen to whatever shit music you want, i have no power over you
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:18 (five years ago) link
btw tho you should know my opinions are worth their weight in gold
and that wack is spelled wack not whack
Wack as a heart attack
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
Dude I have no problem with you, also I haven’t even heard the aphex. Just seems you’re a little irritable
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:28 (five years ago) link
oh good. i have no problem with you either!
i just want to register my opinion - that aphex should stop releasing new music and that people should stop treating new aphex releases like titanic events - over and over and over again
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
Agreed yeah
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link
Also Lowell is a great poster
you know what was a really "great" "late" album? that Daft Punk album that was released a few years ago, just a monumental achievement
― crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:33 (five years ago) link
just a great return to roots album from the group who invented techno!
crut stop trolling me
lowell is a fine poster. i'm not casting aspersions on anybody's posting, just registering my opinion on how overrated this new aphex is
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
I get frustrated with RDJ cause he seems to pump out endless variations of tracks in the style of his I never cared much for (hyper, aggressive, busy) and very very few of the style I do like (slower, trippy, contemplative).
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
I'm listening to "RDJ Album" now... so good
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
yes
i am totally not jaded, i just listened to ICBYD last night with nearly as much joy and wonderment as i felt first hearing it 21+ years ago
and then this morning i tried the new one again and made it 1.5 tracks in before i got bored
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
Cow Cud Is Still a Twin in 2018
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
I don’t have much time for his newer stuff either other than cheetah. Rep for icbyd, polynomial c, on and all the ambient ones. I think it’s also a case of saturation for me, I was obsessed with afx in high school and drukqs felt like a good jumping off point. I think it’s changed tastes for me as I’ve also found it hard to get into new aurechre due to breadth of material. Also i like less difficult music in general as I’m getting old and a big softie now
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
Also if afx is repping jlin then I know my tastes aren’t really in the wheelhouse anymore
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
"Acrid Avid Jam Shred" is seriously one of the greatest opening traxx of any album
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
vahid, granny, what did you think of cheetah
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
i felt that cheetah was relatively fresh
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
*furrows brow, moves left foot a quarter turn while holding hands in ready position*
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
Oh shit!! I've always wanted to find this (and here it is) --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiXoIZ7pf9g
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:03 (five years ago) link
having a party still not my idea of a fantasy in 2018
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:06 (five years ago) link
maybe if people listened to better music they wouldn't constantly need to seek out new musicactually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
so should I listen to this y/n
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
ok to clarify a bit RDJ has made a career out of innovation and overhaul and discovery and creating new types of sounds, like even when the Analord stuff was hella retro throwback, it didn't sound identical to anything he'd done before
this sounds identical to lots of stuff he'd done before, like this literally sounds like outtakes from druqks or RDJ album
when I say "I just question why we need more music like this in 2018" I mean I'm kind of underwhelmed when someone who for so long presented new ideas presents old ideas
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWTZk0sMS4
one example from the new ep
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
constantly trying to present new ideas is what leads to shitty "difficult" music. obv I have no idea what he was thinking about back then, but maybe he just was making sounds that he liked? and they happened to be "new ideas"? and he's still producing sounds that he likes, whether they're new to listeners or not.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link
haven't heard cheetah!
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (five years ago) link
Nobody makes music like this, as good as this--that might be part of why some find it enjoyable. Who is overrating it, Pitchfork!?
well i daresay you're overrating it
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link
when you say "nobody makes music as good as this"
it sorta helps when you're not anticipating / expecting anything. I suppose it also helps if you hold Drukqs, Analord, and the Tuss in high esteem.
you keep contradicting yourself!
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link
see also upthread when you said it was simultaneously hurried and unhurried!
see also when p sherburne said in his pfork review that it was both random like a demolition derby and precise like a laser guided missile
i mean this is part of what i'm reacting to - the praise i'm hearing seems ... incoherent
― the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link
describing music.. generalizing descriptions, so as to try to relate it coherently... you're bound to fail, fuck up, miss the mark, etc.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link
This is the bewildering line for me in Sherburne's review:
There have been times in James’ career when his knowing smirk threatened to eclipse the music.
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link
Ok, so we are overrating current Aphex Twin music. I find these tunes stimulating and enjoyable in unique ways.. it scratches a particular itch. I honestly wasn't expecting much after Cheetah.
― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
granny listen to cheetah! it's my favorite new Aphex stuff since a while. and it's slow.
finally listening to this ... wow clear Jlin vibes, on 1st 44 at least
it's easier for me to enjoy this when I forget his "stature" and imagine I'm with a bunch of high people putting out cigarettes in soda bottles in a room with dirty couches
― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:44 (five years ago) link
boy howdy everyone sometimes it's good to be a casual fan
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link
ok I listened to Cheetah. It's...ok. Def more in the vein that I enjoy, but I can't see myself returning to it much. Kinda bedroom techno by numbers. All the tracks sound similar and lack intrigue. Whereas ICBYD and his other stuff I liked, each track had its own personality. Variety of moods, emotions textures, melodies/harmonies, diff sounds on the drums/rhythms. Maybe I'm just older and JADED but I just hear "here's some shit I made on vintage equipment, I'm gonna go poop out another 200 of these tracks tomorrow". Sorry I hate to hate on stuff, I really do. I'll give it another shot in a few days or so tho.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link
^^this nails it better I than I did/could
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link