yeah but all the while under the surface you're a geyer, hear it call, hear it call, hear it call to me
― Trϵϵship, Sunday, 16 September 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
yeah that is part of ¬_¬ though - the desire to burst out, to be something, to be romantic
― imago, Sunday, 16 September 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
bang it up inside ¬_¬
― maffew12, Monday, 17 September 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link
I am still blown away by the brilliance of “Me and My Husband”
― vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:17 (five years ago) link
her deployment of Britpop horns (and that jaunty organ!) on that song and elsewhere on the album is amazing
― imago, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:43 (five years ago) link
Any article I read about Mitski totally turns me off from her music. Especially the exclaim one. She’s probably good tho - just a reminder that interviews with artists can be bad
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
I don't... really get why?
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link
I don't get it either.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link
yea me neither, the one about Hitchcock heroines?
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
There’s no way I can respond to this without pissing someone off. I’ll get round to the music eventually
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link
I'm not pissed off just confused, I read the Exclaim interview and it seemed fine
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
Is it the comment about her supposedly not being allowed to noodle because she's not a straight white guy? That wasn't in the Exclaim interview, though.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
Xpost no - not saying anyone here will be pissed off, it just doesn’t benefit to diss well liked artists on ilm, hopefully that’s fair
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:02 (five years ago) link
not really no. it's actually worse and more frustrating to say that an interview annoyed you without saying why. also it makes us wonder about your motivations
― imago, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link
I just found it highly serious and high concept, the film stuff etc
Not the first one I’ve read either. Anyways I’m not going to argue this further but Christ.
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link
Sure the music is perfectly fine
Not everyone respects artists philosophies the same way. I’m sure some of you don’t like artists I like
― Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link
¬_¬
― imago, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 07:40 (five years ago) link
Talking about film: a new milestone in highbrow contempt.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 07:47 (five years ago) link
fair enuffshe makes good tunes tho ross i think you'll like it
start with 'townie' i reckon
― nxd, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 08:42 (five years ago) link
Townie is good thanks Nxd
― Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link
I never really read her interviews but I’m enthusiastic about the music. Maybe this is a new phase in listening for me—I used to always want to know who I was listening to.
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:47 (five years ago) link
mitski is an extremely intelligent person who is great in interviews and on social media :)
― monotony, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link
also this record is one of my favourites of 2018!
for what it's worth this record is nothing like the film she mentioned, I'm sure it was an influence in some 25-dimensional chess way but it also has a very dark ending (at least the book does) that has no corresponding part in the record
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 14:58 (five years ago) link
where is this film interview? i'd been thinking about how vivid the imagery on this album is (coupled with the music videos too) and been wondering how much she thought about that kind of big picture focus for everything related to the record
― be the cowboy dan, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link
nvm, found it. im unfamiliar with the film she's talking about but interested in listening to the album with a different perspective
― be the cowboy dan, Saturday, 22 September 2018 01:35 (five years ago) link
mitskkkkkiiiiiii
― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 22 September 2018 02:15 (five years ago) link
I've heard a bit of the new one and like it. Where's the best place to start in her prior work?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
makeout creek
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
i am in between considering her teenage, music for brats (especially after the time i saw her throw a tantrum for the entire duration of a show) yet the emotional magnitude and lyrical delivery redeems her work for me.
― meaulnes, Monday, 8 October 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
good to know
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
imagine writing any of that shit about a man
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
(especially after the time i saw her throw a tantrum for the entire duration of a show)
Do tell!
― JRN, Monday, 8 October 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link
Brad otm
― Trϵϵship, Monday, 8 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link
if Mitski is music for brats, i'm a 100% certified brat.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 8 October 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link
So you're saying an artist has a difficult personality, yet her work manages to be redeemed by its own quality?
― Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 8 October 2018 22:50 (five years ago) link
Not to divert from the thread too much, I totally understand throwing a tantrum at one point on a tour. Shit must be so very exhausting, physically and emotionally, probably even more so if you are a young artist.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 8 October 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link
I've seen countless people throw tantrums for much less and usually they end up with all the appropriate forgiveness.
sorry, my humble opinion has nothing to do with gender or personality, just her music. lyrically its undeniable teenage, whiny and lacking depth "im not gonna be what my daddy wants me to be"; "mom, am i still young"; "i am a forest fire"; "kisses like pink cotton candy"; "holding hands under the table"; 'i just want someone to kiss, i'm lonely...', etc, yet her delivery is sincere and the production is flattering, on record, at least.
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 10:27 (five years ago) link
truly appalling take, really quite an accomplishment
― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link
the language associated with cliched teen experiences -- "makeout creek" etc -- shouldn't be taken at face value
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:58 (five years ago) link
I don't get how teens would choose these images.
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:01 (five years ago) link
loneliness isn't a serious issue for most people after age 18
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:02 (five years ago) link
what
― You like queer? I like queer. Still like queer. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:23 (five years ago) link
joke
― Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
i don't really understand why i'm slated for saying that i really want to like her music, have enjoyed it for a few spins, bought a ticket to see her, but i find the lack of depth and doesnt keep me returning to listen. sorry if i come across like a funny fucker.
― meaulnes, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
well yes one of her most celebrated records is called Puberty
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link
Puberty 2, my bad.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
Usually she spins those clichés of teenage romances on their head, the tension situated in her wanting to be part of this 'all american girl world' and not being able to be part of the club or does she even want too. It is a good way to express every day anxieties and sadness of social life and career choices. Those teenage years realities have a way to stay relevant to our personality for a long time. I don't think it's whiny or lacking depth, it resonates with a lot of people. In Be the Cowboy it's all a little more adult than on Puberty 2 but it works the same way, at least to me.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link
I feel like she mines a lot of the same lyrical territory as Elliott Smith or Cat Power, and I don't think anyone has ever accused either of them in lacking in depth. So many Nirvana songs about high school... you could go on and on...
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link