And like Gavin I hadn't heard anything since Choirgirl at that point -- maybe that was the key?
― geoffreyess, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link
TBH I'm a little bit surprised with the praise ADP is getting here. It was definitely a more exciting project than the snoozefest of The Beekeeper but it's waaay too long (26 songs?!) and plenty of tracks have some embarrassing lyrical clunkers (Yo George, Dark Side of the Sun etc.). But the worst offender is IMO the actual sound of the record -- it's just so toothless. I know she was going for a rock band vibe but somehow she ended up with Guitar Hero production, lifeless vocals, and tinny drums. Weird, given the fact how brilliantly she managed to incorporate some unhinged rock/electronic/full band elements on Choirgirl and Venus. ADP sounds like a muzak version of them.
Or maybe it's just my ears. Anyway, can't wait to see the songs poll results.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 09:40 (five years ago) link
there were only three remix ballots so here are the remixes that got more than one vote:
3. God (The Rainforest Resort Mix by Carl Craig)12 points, 2 voteshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb7rVlHV0DI
2. Ambient Raspberry Swirl (Scarlet Spectrum Feels)14 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 votehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt-LKsyT1qc
1. Professional Widow (Armand's Star Trunk Funkin' Mix)24 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 votehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl9DkcBreNw
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
and the full remix and album results:
1 Ambient Raspberry Swirl (Scarlet Spectrum Feels) 14 2 12 God (The Rainforest Resort Mix by Carl Craig) 12 2 03 Kingdom - Red Baron Juke 10 1 14 God (The Thinking Mix 2 by Carl Craig) 8 1 05 Hey Jupiter (Dakota Version) 6 1 06 Talula (BT's Synethasia Mix) 2 1 08 Mainline Cherry (Ambient Spark) 2 1 08 Mainline Cherry (Ambient Spark) 2 1 01 Boys for Pele 100 12 52 From the Choirgirl Hotel 88 12 33 Little Earthquakes 66 10 34 Under the Pink 64 13 05 To Venus and Back 26 5 16 Scarlet's Walk 12 2 17 Night of Hunters 10 2 08 Unrepentant Geraldines 8 2 09 American Doll Posse 6 3 010 Strange Little Girls 2 1 0
1 Boys for Pele 100 12 52 From the Choirgirl Hotel 88 12 33 Little Earthquakes 66 10 34 Under the Pink 64 13 05 To Venus and Back 26 5 16 Scarlet's Walk 12 2 17 Night of Hunters 10 2 08 Unrepentant Geraldines 8 2 09 American Doll Posse 6 3 010 Strange Little Girls 2 1 0
going to start counting down the top 40 tracks soon, starting with 40-31 today
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link
uh that's
1 Professional Widow (Armand's Star Trunk Funkin' Mix) 24 3 12 Ambient Raspberry Swirl (Scarlet Spectrum Feels) 14 2 13 God (The Rainforest Resort Mix by Carl Craig) 12 2 04 Kingdom - Red Baron Juke 10 1 15 God (The Thinking Mix 2 by Carl Craig) 8 1 06 Hey Jupiter (Dakota Version) 6 1 08 Talula (BT's Synethasia Mix) 2 1 08 Mainline Cherry (Ambient Spark) 2 1 0
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/SjhNkA6.jpg40. Yes, Anastasia84 points, 2 votes, 1 #1 Vote
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 13:55 (five years ago) link
we’ll see how brave you are
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/GuI650e.jpg39. Little Earthquakes86 points, 2 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:16 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ZBHwnWc.jpg38. The Waitress86 points, 3 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/J7WULvM.jpg37. Space Dog86 points, 6 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link
Wanted to add "Little Earthquakes" to my ballot after I sent it, but didn't want to make trouble for ufo. Glad it squeaked in.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:05 (five years ago) link
i love the whole last two minutes of Space Dog, whenever she does her overlapping vocals it's incredible
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/i0RmKOR.jpg36. Baker Baker88 points, 4 votes
https://i.imgur.com/PoJvr6S.jpg36. Taxi Ride88 points, 4 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link
I love Taxi Ride so much, it's like a midpoint of Cocteau Twins and Fleetwood Mac lol
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link
Didn’t vote (sorry!) because I didn’t feel knowledgeable but loving the images! Great job
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link
"taxi ride" just missed my ballot (or rather i couldn't in good conscience vote for both it and "secret spell" since they're doing near-identical things) so i'm glad it's here
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
also these images rule thank you ufo
Secret Spell is so much more driven and it's almost a power pop thing while Taxi Ride is extremely dreamy soft rock so there's not much connection between the two to me except they're both highlights of her 00's albums
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
and i'm glad people are enjoying the images!
― ufo, Wednesday, September 12, 2018 8:34 AM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ah i get this but i group them together anyway, both choruses are sugar
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/BDEksXJ.jpg34. Cloud On My Tongue90 points, 6 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
"cloud on my tongue" has like at least fifteen melodies in it, each of which could support their own song
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/KX74F1I.jpg33. God92 points, 3 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link
God has a great groove and when everything drops out except for the intentionally heavenly backing vocals in the chorus is a highlight
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
that trill downwards on "fi-hi-hind"/"ni-nine iron"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/cVDpdhb.jpg32. Concertina92 points, 4 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:34 (five years ago) link
aw it's so nice this made it! one of my favorite venus songs that also dropped off the end of my ballot at the last minute
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link
"i know the truth is in between the first and fortieth drink" is prob my favorite lyric she's ever written, a stark sudden depiction of alcoholism in a song that i can't otherwise make heads or tails of
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:38 (five years ago) link
and the last one for today
https://i.imgur.com/lu5TRli.jpg31. Bells for Her96 points, 3 votes
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
Love the images, ufo!
"Yes, Anastasia" was my #1, glad to see it made the list.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link
so much of under the pink already!
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link
Yes, Anastasia just missed my ballot and I was surprised it didn't get more votes, it's a real epic
― ufo, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link
God that low is a shocker, but small pool of ballots makes things unpredictable I guess. (It was my #2)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link
I've no idea what the consensus favourites from TVaB are so I'm happy to see 'Concertina' place.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
great images again ufo!
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 12 September 2018 23:53 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/J6Uui39.jpg30. Twinkle96 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link
doing 30 to 16 today
Twinkle is my favourite album closer and just missed my ballot
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/XNr3pUG.jpg29. Northern Lad114 points, 3 votes, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/PHvnQCO.jpg28. Putting the Damage On114 points, 4 votes, 1 #1 vote
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link
three of the best songs ever made in a row, none of which made my ballot lol
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
personally "putting the damage on" is wayyyy too tied to my first relationship and being 15 and feeling bad all of the time and at this point it feels like the song belongs to a different person than who i am now. still devastated every time i hear the chorus or "it's just your ghost passing through / and... now... i'm... quite... sure"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:10 (five years ago) link
Putting the Damage On has a really great vocal performance and I love the horn arrangement
boy you still look pretty
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/7UaG5x6.jpg27. Cooling118 points, 4 votes
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
somehow, a song too intense to make the tracklist of boys for pele
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link
also maybe the most beautiful song she ever wrote; in its winding digressions it feels twinned with "icicle" for me even though they're about v different things
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:26 (five years ago) link
is your place in heavenworth giving upthese kisses
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/R305BtI.jpg26. In the Springtime of His Voodoo118 points, 5 votes
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
too low. even on my own ballot it was too low
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
there are so many ideas in this song and the second uh post-chorus? with the overlapping vocal lines is divine
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/R9nqT1D.jpg25. Honey120 points, 5 votes
― ufo, Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link
I don't know why I didn't top 10 "Silent All These Years".. I think there's a comparative simplicity to its composition that makes me rank it lower within Tori's oeuvre.. but if I were to include a Tori song on a list of "best songs of the 90s" it'd be my pick
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 14 September 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
glad to see the other dragon voters here
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 14 September 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link
Just home from work and catching up with the top 15 -- great choices everyone! I'm a bit surprised that nothing post-90s cracked the top 35, though I suppose it's just a matter of a consensus-averse artist's later work being even less prone to consensus (and, uh, slightly less amazing).
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 15 September 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link
Howdy @ my fellow "Wild Way" voter, whoever you are.
1. Girl2. Crucify3. Jackie's Strength4. Little Earthquakes5. Black-Dove (January)6. Hey Jupiter7. Winter8. Putting the Damage On9. Bells for Her10. Promise11. Caught A Lite Sneeze12. Tear in Your Hand13. Cloud Riders14. Concertina15. Past the Mission16. Your Cloud17. Father Lucifer18. The Waitress19. Hotel20. Wild Way21. Space Dog22. Frog On My Toe23. Bouncing Off Clouds24. Wednesday25. Rose Dover
1. Little Earthquakes2. From the Choirgirl Hotel3. Boys for Pele4. Unrepentant Geraldines5. Under the Pink
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:04 (five years ago) link
felt a little guilty putting "Girl" and "Crucify" at 1 and 2, though not enough to start my own religion
― geoffreyess, Saturday, 15 September 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link
btw i didn't mention this during the countdown but "mother" is one of my least favorite tori songs! idk why!!!!!
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2018 04:10 (five years ago) link
Thanks for running this ufo! My ballot:
1. Northern Lad2. Father Lucifer3. Pretty Good Year4. Blood Roses5. Marianne6. Jackie's Strength7. Beauty Queen/Horses8. Caught a Lite Sneeze9. Silent All These Years10. Space Dog11. Liquid Diamonds12. Cornflake Girl13. Black Dove (January)14. Weatherman15. Bells for Her16. Real Men17. Winter18. Hey Jupiter19. Cooling20. Wild Way21. Honey22. Concertina23. Spark24. Secret Spell25. 16 Shades of Blue
Albums:1. Boys for Pele2. From the Choirgirl Hotel3. Under the Pink4. Unrepentant Geraldines5. Little Earthquakes
― Gavin, Leeds, Saturday, 15 September 2018 06:40 (five years ago) link
Xpost whut brad that is insane
― Tim F, Saturday, 15 September 2018 07:51 (five years ago) link
Seconded!
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 September 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
Tracks (ranked)
Take to the SkyGodMotherSparkA Sorta FairytaleWingsPrecious ThingsPretty Good YearBlissCool on Your IslandSilent All These YearsRaspberry SwirlSugarTear in Your HandHoneyBouncing Off CloudsHey JupiterHotelTalula
Albums (ranked)
Little EarthquakesFrom the Choirgirl HotelUnder the Pink
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 15 September 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link
idk i can't help it, at some point when i was a kid i convinced myself the lyric was just a little less sure-footed than the rest of le and that feeling persisted even though it doesn't matter! lovely music behind it ofc
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2018 13:50 (five years ago) link
It definitely points forward to a more oblique lyrical style than the rest of the album. "Somebody leave the light on / just in case I like the dancing / I can remember where I come from" isn't top-tier. But man.. the sudden shift in tone on "he's gonna change my name" wow
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 15 September 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link
he's gonna change my name is outstanding yes, maybe i should work hard at changing my relationship with this song lol
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 September 2018 13:59 (five years ago) link
Surprised by how low yes Anastasia and putting the damage charted
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 15 September 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
My ballot would have snuck Past the Mission into the top 40 too :)
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 15 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
Datura
― Ross, Monday, 17 September 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link
Criminally underrated
― Ross, Monday, 17 September 2018 16:50 (five years ago) link
Is there a spotify playlist of the results?
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 17 September 2018 18:11 (five years ago) link
Thanks very much to everyone who participated in this - I listened to Little Earthquakes a lot in college but never went much beyond that, and have really enjoyed discovering everything else in this poll.
― toby, Friday, 21 September 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link
Tori influenced my writing to an incredible degree. When she says Ed is watching my every move, that is such an abstract lyricism - perhaps it is Ed the Horse, but Tori always wrote lyrics that allowed one to transpose themselves onto them. Even if she did not give background to these lyrics, she respects the intelligence of the listener to take away their own meaning (much like Lynch). I am grateful she exists and her music changed my life
― Ross, Wednesday, 10 October 2018 22:38 (five years ago) link