POLL away the dew... Best Grateful Dead recurring live jam/transition piece

it was just that incredible looseness, they all sound like they're tripping over each other and it creates this critical mass of interweaving melodies and then jerry starts angrily strumming 10 minutes in and boy does it fucking rule

Ha, it's been that very show that I've been playing nonstop. I had finally connected with the studio Help/Slipknot/Franklin & wanted to hear what a good live version was, and Dick's Picks 3 was where I landed.

I’m psyched that I just arrived at work and can listen to it! (It’s not one I own)

Best Help>Slip>Franklin imo is the one that kicks off that Great American Music Hall '75 show aka One From the Vault. Check it out, it rules (even the Bill Graham intro is goosebump worthy)

Cool, thx! I have Two From the Vault, but never heard One

Yeah, I love how Graham introduces each member and they each come into the mix, that's super cool. xp

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there's some incredible china > riders and and the jam section of playin can go very deep until it gets donna jeaned and long slipknots are beautiful and not fade away, on the right night, is like sunshine through the clouds, but this is dark star, all the way, forever.

Oh shit I totally got donna jeaned the other day - like ten minutes into Playing and suddenly AAAAAHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYEAHYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH out of nowhere

yeah, that's pretty standard fare for the 70s, not "out of nowhere" at all. It's usually in the same place in the song every time. In fact, when I hear a post-79 PITB and there's no scream, its absence is pretty conspicuous and I kinda miss it

This took me by surprise cause it had come up on shuffle in the car and I didn’t know what era it was until she came in

Hahahaha

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Surprised only two votes for PitB.

Feedback/ Seastones lol, forgot I was on ILX for a second, thanks for the reminder

Other One should have ranked higher, it's a contender

early versions, ya. after the hiatus playin/other one got a little tepid imo

Today in grateful dead history: truckin>the other one jam>the other one>jam>big river>the other one>eyes of the world>the other one>wharf rat! https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-14.sbd.vernon.5612.sbeok.shnf/gd73-11-14d3t06.shn

I was listening to GD Radio in the car the other day; there was a casual transition into "Wharf Rat" (from I forget which song) that was just so choice.

Drums>space got no love in this poll. But it never fails to impress my wife who HATES the dead and rountinely complains when i'm listening to them around her, especially if it's fire on the mountain - "when will this damn song be over?" But when drums>space is on, she's always like, "I like this, what is it?"

There is no Grateful Dead song that my wife would tolerate for a millisecond!

Another sublime other one today: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.partial-set2-matrix.vernon.83164.flac16/gd71-12-01matrix03.flac

The detour through south Colorado West Texas bound and back onto the bus again is one of those lost in the song moments,wait where are we? What is this?

Then not fade away comes up like a cathartic signpost pointing the way down the road where the climate suits my clothes.

Great mountains of the moon > dark star > St Stephen > 11 https://archive.org/details/gd69-02-15.sbd.winters.16664.sbeok.shnf/gd69-02-15d2t05.shn

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-15.aud.maizner.berger.99099.flac16/gd1977-05-15d1t05.flac

this spring 77 AUD has such a great feel, so slinky and slow. 'row jimmy' is a good taste but even the new minglewood blues is incredibly laid back

Today in dead history: An other one w/ a side of jesu joy of man's desiring into a fantastic Stella blue. https://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-14.nak700.glassberg.motb.84826.sbeok.flac16/gd1981-03-14.motb.0029.d3t02.flac

“Dark Star” is one of their jam tracks where if Jerry botches the opening vocals I check out. Scarlet/Fire for 20+++++ minutes is my Dead zone these days.

'Turn On Your Love Light' was a pretty big jam staple in the Pigpen era. Drum solo would come off that tune sometimes or they would jam into it to close a set or a show.

'Bird Song' is one Dead tune that when they jam on it, some interesting stuff comes out too, outside the more well known tunes for improvisation. It's got a lilt that makes it good to riff on the melody and play with the chords.

Hey Western® with Bacon Flavor, I urge you to check out Dark Star from 9/27/72 (Dick's Picks Vol. 11). Personally I think Jerry nails the verse ;)

That's the closest I get to a birthday Dead show. I wasn't too impressed, but I will give it another try.

10/17/83 has a great bird song xxp

^The early 80s are mostly a blind spot for me Deadwise. I'm checking out that 10/17/83 Bird Song right now and yep it's really nice--Jerry is extremely ON.

I need to shout out 8/1/73, which features both a lovely Bird Song and--in my very arguable opinion--the greatest Dark Star ever played. Keith shining brightly on the Fender Rhodes throughout.

this is the only 80s show i know decently because the sugaree was touted and i had a sugaree phase. overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era

ooh yes this bird song is lovely. excited for the DS. i like the 73 ones where they do noisy feedback

Cryptical Envelopment 1 -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment 2 on Fillmore East 2/11/69

J Sam thx for the rec will seek it out

overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era

Brent's voice has grown on me a little over the years, though I still find it slightly annoying.

Bob...I mean...what the fuck did he think he was doing? Was he trying to (over)compensate for Jerry's onstage nodding or something?

what the fuck did he think he was doing?

he was doing cocaine

lol
Bobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular
NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO

I’ve listened to enough at this point where when I’m looking to pull on a random live show I’m fully expecting to skip through a good chunk of Weir and Cringe-pen led songs. The world never needed 10+ minute renditions of “Good Morning Little Schoolgirl.”

I don't know, I've kinda come back around full circle on some of those Pig vamps. Every now and then the band lands on a killer groove and I get into 'em.

100% agreed on Bobby's vocal improvs tho, especially when he'd inject the falsetto

Shorts must have been a little too tight

There is not a single listenable ‘80s or ‘90s “Estimated Prophet.” Even the ones with David Murray, Bob has to ruin everything with his horseshittery.

Pig instructing the men in the audience to take their hands out of their pockets and go proposition the nearest female during every Lovelight and Weir's Mexicali Statutory Rapist Blues are deal breakers for me. Can't skip either of those songs fast enough. Also, any song where Brent digs into the pain he feels as a drugged up musician on the road away from his family. So gross.

I'm no Pigpen stan but "Mr. Charlie" simply rips. And "The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)" is a pretty good tough-guy-gets-sensitive song, and it makes me sad he didn't get a chance to explore that avenue further

He’s pretty good on Easy Wind. Little Bobby certainly couldn’t have pulled that lyric off, and with Jerry it would have taken on a melancholy reflective tinge like Wharf Rat does

lol
Bobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular
NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO

On this day in 1974 at the Cow Palace in San Francisco, the Grateful Dead debuted their "Wall Of Sound" PA system. Every instrument and every microphone had its own separate set of speakers. The output was crystal-clear from half a mile away.
They dragged it, and two stage setups leapfrogging each other, around the continent during an oil embargo crisis. It was so innovative, and so expensive, that seven months later they abandoned it and took some time off to wait for the rest of the music industry to catch up to them.

(from a friend)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6f/Jesd35ex402z.jpg

I know many of the Dick's Picks and some of the European shows pretty well. They could take off on some of those sets for like 90 minutes straight. This one is pretty wild.

"Dark Star" -> (Garcia, Hart, Kreutzmann, Lesh, McKernan, Weir, Hunter) – 29:41
"That's It for the Other One" -> (Grateful Dead) – 30:07
"Turn On Your Love Light" (Malone, Scott) – 30:27

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Picks_Volume_4

That huge one on Hundred Year Hall is really cool.

I feel pretty confident that, were he alive today, Jerry would have surfaced in the covidiots in music thread