best "Bird Song" ever, I think, though I think the PitB is more long than essential.
― Paul Ponzi
god, i feel sorry for those kids up in seattle. first they have to sit through 45 minutes of playin' and then the next year led zeppelin comes through and puts them all to sleep with "dazed and confused" for 45 minutes. what did they ever do to deserve such a fate?
― milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Monday, 10 September 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
What other shows are as good as this one??
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, September 10, 2018 7:11 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
see above, but Veneta 72 and Cornell 77 should be your next stops
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link
This is Cornell 77!
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:36 (five years ago) link
(The “St. Stephen” that winds it down is surprisingly mushy, btw)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:40 (five years ago) link
I like Dick's Picks #3 (5/22/77) as much as Cornell (maybe more), and it has probably their best "Sugaree."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:09 (five years ago) link
Thx! I love a good “Franklin’s Tower”
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
dick's picks 3 is the first live dead thing i ever listened to that made me think "huh maybe there's something to this." it was in the middle of that "sugaree"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
it was just that incredible looseness, they all sound like they're tripping over each other and it creates this critical mass of interweaving melodies and then jerry starts angrily strumming 10 minutes in and boy does it fucking rule
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
Ha, it's been that very show that I've been playing nonstop. I had finally connected with the studio Help/Slipknot/Franklin & wanted to hear what a good live version was, and Dick's Picks 3 was where I landed.
― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:09 (five years ago) link
I’m psyched that I just arrived at work and can listen to it! (It’s not one I own)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link
Best Help>Slip>Franklin imo is the one that kicks off that Great American Music Hall '75 show aka One From the Vault. Check it out, it rules (even the Bill Graham intro is goosebump worthy)
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
Cool, thx! I have Two From the Vault, but never heard One
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:04 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I love how Graham introduces each member and they each come into the mix, that's super cool. xp
― Freddy "Boom Boom" QAnon (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 30 September 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
there's some incredible china > riders and and the jam section of playin can go very deep until it gets donna jeaned and long slipknots are beautiful and not fade away, on the right night, is like sunshine through the clouds, but this is dark star, all the way, forever.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 30 September 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link
Oh shit I totally got donna jeaned the other day - like ten minutes into Playing and suddenly AAAAAHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYEAHYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH out of nowhere
― joygoat, Sunday, 30 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
yeah, that's pretty standard fare for the 70s, not "out of nowhere" at all. It's usually in the same place in the song every time. In fact, when I hear a post-79 PITB and there's no scream, its absence is pretty conspicuous and I kinda miss it
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 September 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
This took me by surprise cause it had come up on shuffle in the car and I didn’t know what era it was until she came in
― joygoat, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:38 (five years ago) link
Hahahaha
― Duke, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
Surprised only two votes for PitB.
Feedback/ Seastones lol, forgot I was on ILX for a second, thanks for the reminder
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 October 2018 00:28 (five years ago) link
Other One should have ranked higher, it's a contender
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 1 October 2018 00:37 (five years ago) link
early versions, ya. after the hiatus playin/other one got a little tepid imo
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 1 October 2018 01:14 (five years ago) link
Today in grateful dead history: truckin>the other one jam>the other one>jam>big river>the other one>eyes of the world>the other one>wharf rat! https://archive.org/details/gd73-11-14.sbd.vernon.5612.sbeok.shnf/gd73-11-14d3t06.shn
― BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link
I was listening to GD Radio in the car the other day; there was a casual transition into "Wharf Rat" (from I forget which song) that was just so choice.
― too busy or too stoned (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
Drums>space got no love in this poll. But it never fails to impress my wife who HATES the dead and rountinely complains when i'm listening to them around her, especially if it's fire on the mountain - "when will this damn song be over?" But when drums>space is on, she's always like, "I like this, what is it?"
― BrianB, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
There is no Grateful Dead song that my wife would tolerate for a millisecond!
― verlaine & rambo (morrisp), Wednesday, 14 November 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link
Another sublime other one today: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-12-01.partial-set2-matrix.vernon.83164.flac16/gd71-12-01matrix03.flac
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:06 (five years ago) link
The detour through south Colorado West Texas bound and back onto the bus again is one of those lost in the song moments,wait where are we? What is this?
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:14 (five years ago) link
Then not fade away comes up like a cathartic signpost pointing the way down the road where the climate suits my clothes.
― BrianB, Saturday, 1 December 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link
Great mountains of the moon > dark star > St Stephen > 11 https://archive.org/details/gd69-02-15.sbd.winters.16664.sbeok.shnf/gd69-02-15d2t05.shn
― BrianB, Sunday, 17 February 2019 02:24 (five years ago) link
https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-15.aud.maizner.berger.99099.flac16/gd1977-05-15d1t05.flac
this spring 77 AUD has such a great feel, so slinky and slow. 'row jimmy' is a good taste but even the new minglewood blues is incredibly laid back
― global tetrahedron, Monday, 18 February 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link
Today in dead history: An other one w/ a side of jesu joy of man's desiring into a fantastic Stella blue. https://archive.org/details/gd1981-03-14.nak700.glassberg.motb.84826.sbeok.flac16/gd1981-03-14.motb.0029.d3t02.flac
― BrianB, Friday, 15 March 2019 02:10 (five years ago) link
“Dark Star” is one of their jam tracks where if Jerry botches the opening vocals I check out. Scarlet/Fire for 20+++++ minutes is my Dead zone these days.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 22 March 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
'Turn On Your Love Light' was a pretty big jam staple in the Pigpen era. Drum solo would come off that tune sometimes or they would jam into it to close a set or a show.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link
'Bird Song' is one Dead tune that when they jam on it, some interesting stuff comes out too, outside the more well known tunes for improvisation. It's got a lilt that makes it good to riff on the melody and play with the chords.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link
Hey Western® with Bacon Flavor, I urge you to check out Dark Star from 9/27/72 (Dick's Picks Vol. 11). Personally I think Jerry nails the verse ;)
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:42 (three years ago) link
That's the closest I get to a birthday Dead show. I wasn't too impressed, but I will give it another try.
― righteous oxide (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:57 (three years ago) link
10/17/83 has a great bird song xxp
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link
^The early 80s are mostly a blind spot for me Deadwise. I'm checking out that 10/17/83 Bird Song right now and yep it's really nice--Jerry is extremely ON.
I need to shout out 8/1/73, which features both a lovely Bird Song and--in my very arguable opinion--the greatest Dark Star ever played. Keith shining brightly on the Fender Rhodes throughout.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link
this is the only 80s show i know decently because the sugaree was touted and i had a sugaree phase. overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link
ooh yes this bird song is lovely. excited for the DS. i like the 73 ones where they do noisy feedback
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link
Cryptical Envelopment 1 -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment 2 on Fillmore East 2/11/69
J Sam thx for the rec will seek it out
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link
overall i can't stand brent and bob is unbearable in this era
Brent's voice has grown on me a little over the years, though I still find it slightly annoying.
Bob...I mean...what the fuck did he think he was doing? Was he trying to (over)compensate for Jerry's onstage nodding or something?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link
what the fuck did he think he was doing?
he was doing cocaine
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link
lolBobs vocal improvisations are just the worst. “Estimated prophet “ In particular NAH NAH NAH DONT WORRY BOUT ME NO
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link
I’ve listened to enough at this point where when I’m looking to pull on a random live show I’m fully expecting to skip through a good chunk of Weir and Cringe-pen led songs. The world never needed 10+ minute renditions of “Good Morning Little Schoolgirl.”
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link
I don't know, I've kinda come back around full circle on some of those Pig vamps. Every now and then the band lands on a killer groove and I get into 'em.
100% agreed on Bobby's vocal improvs tho, especially when he'd inject the falsetto
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link
Shorts must have been a little too tight
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
There is not a single listenable ‘80s or ‘90s “Estimated Prophet.” Even the ones with David Murray, Bob has to ruin everything with his horseshittery.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link