Digging this Virginia Astley album. I'd never heard of her.
― jmm, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link
As soon as Rio turned up at #172 I knew this list wouldn't be made with my ears even remotely in mind but although I'm not solipsistic enough to expect Cardiacs, Rudimentary Peni, Julian Cope, Foetus, The The, The Astronauts, The Chameleons or any XTC album not made by Todd Rundgren to all appear, one of them might have been nice. I mean, this list was made by the sorts of people who (in the main) prefer The Head On The Door to Pornography, so there was never any chance, was there? At least Big Science is high - although it should be in the top three
― imago, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:08 (five years ago) link
The metal choices are all great. I wish there were more.
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
i forgot i voted for another metal album that didn't make it, coroner's no more color
which fine, more coroner for me
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link
Quick, dirty, imperfect, subject to change:Top 40 Eighties Rap Records Missed by the Pitchfork List pic.twitter.com/7OpjqlGiiW— Christopher R. Weingarten (@1000TimesYes) September 10, 2018
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
I did a thing on my radio show like 10 years ago where I played a 2-3 song block from every album on the original '80s list. So that's when I figured out that I liked Swordfishtrombones a lot better than Rain Dogs, or that I even appreciated Tom Waits at all.
Re: country, Randy Travis "Storms Of Life" would have been a good choice, although knowing 2018-era Pitchfork I'm sure Dolly Parton probably came closest.
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link
tbh I'm surprised that Stevie Nicks is absent.
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
I always thought This Heat was a strange choice for the original top 20. It's a great album, but it seems more accurately placed here.
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link
seriously though, where the eff is mary margaret o'hara?
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link
Aah bummer - they yanked both Ghost In The Machine and Synchronicity. :(
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:23 (five years ago) link
Was there no Police at all? I guess Sting’s solo career is a lot to overcome.
― guardians of the gums: i am tooth (voodoo chili), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:24 (five years ago) link
They're both on the original list.
― billstevejim, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:25 (five years ago) link
i love the police but every single one of their albums is flawed in one way or another
― I'd Rather Kecak (NickB), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link
Robert Cray Strong Persuader not being anywhere on the list is a complete joke.
Other "how the hell is this not on there" records include Psychedelic Furs Talk Talk TalkLou Reed The Blue MaskElvis Costello TrustX Wild Gift (way better than Los Angeles)Mekons Rock n Roll or Fear and WhiskeyVulgar Boatmen You and Your Sister
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:30 (five years ago) link
Talk Talk Talk I would've big upped too
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
If Cecil Taylor's gonna be one of your two token jazz titles, how do you opt for For Olim instead of nodding to the In Berlin '88 box set, a landmark in jazz history, period?
Would also have liked to see Miles Davis (You're Under Arrest or Tutu) and Wynton Marsalis (Black Codes From the Underground) make the list, not to mention David Murray, Anthony Braxton, Carla Bley, Arthur Blythe...
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:41 (five years ago) link
David Sylvian is needed on some list at some point.
― mr.raffles, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:42 (five years ago) link
Wonderful x 1000000 to see Virginia Astley pop up. Heckuva record.
― mr.raffles, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link
not sure tutu will ever get the reevaluation it deserves
― lowercase (eric), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link
xp Yeah, this is a gorgeous record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpzzJ9Y8F3I
― jmm, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:48 (five years ago) link
No major complaints with this list. I flagged about a dozen albums from the upper reaches that I hadn’t heard before, so looking forward to digging into those.
I appreciated all the dub and dancehall - been getting into that a lot lately and glad to have a few more to check out, like Tenor Saw and Horace Andy.
I guess you gotta make room for a lot of genres etc but I was surprised none of OMD’s albums made it in. There is some treasure in that discography.
Also can we note REM’s falling stock? I think I saw only two of their albums? And this is the era I thought everyone agreed was their most classic.
Re lack of country - there was a Lucinda Williams album in there. I just went back to my own folders of 80s countrybto seenwhat was missing and to be honest it was kind of a crap decade for the genre.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
great list, 80s best decade
― flopson, Monday, 10 September 2018 16:51 (five years ago) link
If Cecil Taylor's gonna be one of your two token jazz titles, how do you opt for /For Olim/ instead of nodding to the /In Berlin '88/ box set, a landmark in jazz history, period?Would also have liked to see Miles Davis (/You're Under Arrest/ or /Tutu/) and Wynton Marsalis (/Black Codes From the Underground/) make the list, not to mention David Murray, Anthony Braxton, Carla Bley, Arthur Blythe...
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:52 (five years ago) link
special ed youngest in charge is great
glad DOC made it
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:55 (five years ago) link
Spy Vs Spy!
Speaking of dudes whose stock has plummeted in recent years...does anyone outside the cult pay attention to Zorn anymore?
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 10 September 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link
guys 200 for a decade is not a lot of records, omissions will occur, maybe don't be so shocked?
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
/Spy Vs Spy!/Speaking of dudes whose stock has plummeted in recent years...does anyone outside the cult pay attention to Zorn anymore?
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link
I assume. Or just growing up on Reddit
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link
there are quite a few artists with multiple entries in the list that seem unnecessary. would have liked to have seen them shed a bunch of these and have a greater range of artists represented.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
playlist is complete:
https://open.spotify.com/user/olken2000/playlist/3FT4IqZf9kXh7APS5rCIZr?si=RzD4HMnmRoGh4mMjmiEqZA
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link
there's some good 80s country:Diamonds and DirtGuitars, Cadillacs, etc.Guitar TownKing's Record ShopI Wonder Do You Ever Think Of MeI Am What I AmStorms of LifeKilling TimeShadowland+ stuff by Kathy Mattea, Emmylou Harris, Nanci Griffith, Carlene Carter, Suzy Boggus, Patty Loveless, etc.
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link
Looks like the 2002 list included "Murmur," "Reckoning," and "Document"; while the new list finds room for only "Reckoning" and "Murmur."
I would say that R.E.M. is no more or less cool now than they were in 2002 (i.e., they've been uncool since the late '90s), but their stock is due to rise with Gen-Z listeners (as has been discussed here recently)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
I mean I think multiple entries per artist is dumb on any year/decade list including the ones we do every year but it seems to be a permanent fixture
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link
I'm scanning the Top 10 of both lists to try to discern some "trend" in how consensus taste has changed in past 16 years, but I'm tired and not really coming up w/anything meaningful
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:38 (five years ago) link
it's unfortunate that these lists seem to stimulate more discussion among music lovers than anything else
― dyl, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:41 (five years ago) link
would you prefer the music haters weighed in
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link
Thriller's jump from 27 to 2 is pretty notable, tho
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link
Thriller is overrated btw
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
MJ in general is vastly overrated
I'm not a fan, myself
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link
the backlash has begun
― President Keyes, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
(but I'm just some dude, not a music kritic)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link
surely the backlash began at least a decade ago and this is the anti-backlash
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
My personal MJ backlash began in 1987
― Οὖτις, Monday, 10 September 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link
more and more i am realizing that thriller is absolutely not overrated
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
like calling kind of blue overrated, like who gives a shit
well, this is a discussion about a literal rating of 200 albums
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
(so I guess "giving a shit" is implied in any discussion about the rankings at all?)
― stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:00 (five years ago) link
Overrated is overrated
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
ok pls unload your contrarian opinions about thriller i'm sure it'll be interesting
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 10 September 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link