"For the money, for the glory, and for the fun...mostly for the money. ": A Burt Reynolds Memorial Poll

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i think Burt's flaw (tied in w/him turning down a number of projects that wound up being exceptionally good) was thinking his talent was for the wisecracking mustache ladies' man thing (which let's face it was probably perfected and made actually likable by Selleck w/Magnum P.I.) when i think he was actually much better as a more serious actor. I think he marginalized himself to the point that he wound up doing Golden Girls cameos and making jokes on Carson and starring in Stroker Ace, when you see him being a bit more tough and even brutal in Deliverance and Sharky's Machine, or just what he did in Boogie Nights (which is a genuinely *great* performance across the board) you see what kind of opportunities he caused himself to miss. I mean it clearly paid off for him, but I think he had an "it" factor potential for other genres he never completely fulfilled.

omar little, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

I didn't know until I read the obit on Alfred's blog that hated the experience of making Boogie Nights, didn't like PTA, and hasn't even seen the whole film!

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

*Burt hated

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

As he made clear, the plaudits from the Hollywood community -- he really wanted that Oscar nod -- touched him more than the work itself.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:18 (five years ago) link

Jackie Chan having to play Japanese was O_o

This. I saw Cannonball in the theatre with a friend and was mortified how the audience laughed at that "Asian music cue" EVERY damn time the film cut to Jackie's car. :/ (Cinemagoing evening was a disappointment from the start - sneak preview of Spielberg's "Raiders" we'd originally intended to see was ultimately canceled or sold out or something)

Scape: Goat-fired like a dog! (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:23 (five years ago) link

omar otm. he was clearly talented enough to be more than a big fish in a small pond. he was good at being Burt but you gotta wonder at the “what if’s” if he had spread his wings, acting wise

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

can't believe no one has mentioned . . . a place called evening shade

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

<3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

i also really like him in Gunsmoke. I dvr the reruns & i like when his episodes pop up now and then. Such a strapping young man <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:28 (five years ago) link

The stunt sequence at the end was so cool but it was shot in such a “fuckit whatever” way that you miss the scope. Everything’s either close up or too far away, lol.

This was a big deal in Alabama, because they were basically blowing up an old factory in Tuscaloosa for that sequence. But of course they could only do it once, so Needham could only work with what he had.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:29 (five years ago) link

What I don't see mentioned much is that he taught theater acting to young students in Florida for many years, so clearly he cared about the art form.

Josefa, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:31 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY2OE6vBxQM

mookieproof, Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

Yeah, whatever else, Reynolds liked Florida and was involved in the arts wherever he settled down. His dinner theater with Loni Anderson in Jupier was famous for a while.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

*Jupiter

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

Yeah, Burt & Dinah were like the Ashton & Demi of that time. He was also once married to Judy Carne which is somewhat intriguing.

I liked Burt Reynolds in many of his films and most of his appearances with Johnny Carson. There's something very friendly about a handsome leading-man type who doesn't take himself too seriously and can laugh at his own image.

He once appeared on a TV show I worked on but we didn't meet when he taped his spot. A few weeks later though, he dropped by the office about something else and we got introduced. We talked for about ten minutes about nothing that mattered one bit. But it did matter to me that he was the same self-deprecating guy with the hyena laugh who appeared often with Johnny.

Then one evening I was at a party and I listened as his ex-wife Judy Carne told a small group of folks how when she was married to him, Burt used to beat the hell out of her. From that point on, it became somewhat more difficult to like Burt Reynolds.

▫◌▫ (sic), Saturday, 8 September 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

yeah, that was mentioned in the NYT obit. He also said of Loni Anderson "I never really liked her," which is a shitty thing to put out in public about somebody you have a kid with.

Never saw any of his Gunsmoke era, or Evening Shade.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:09 (five years ago) link

he was at his Brando-est in Gunsmoke

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/JJeFDk4.png?1

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link

YES. where is that? i want to go there

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:40 (five years ago) link

https://2018.xoxofest.com !

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:53 (five years ago) link

i want to go there too

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 04:53 (five years ago) link

inspired to make bear_on_burt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uWb784x.jpg?1

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

oh dear god

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:29 (five years ago) link

i'm biased, but i think it's a very nice pic

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:40 (five years ago) link

speaking of picks, i went for the boring one here (deliverance)

Karl Malone, Sunday, 9 September 2018 05:46 (five years ago) link

started watching Smokey & The Bandit for the first time, learnt 5 mins in that its back in cinemas next week, stopped.

Just saw The Last Movie Star last week The whole thing feels as shambolic as the film festival at which its set, and Reynolds feels like he’s suddenly realised that for 21 years he squandered the chance at a third act that Boogie Nights should have given him, but doesn’t quite know what to do about it.

▫◌▫ (sic), Sunday, 9 September 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link

I watched the trailer for Sharky's Machine on youtube today and the "up next" video was "the real reason you don't hear from burt reynolds anymore" :(

(I didn't watch it so I don't know)

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 9 September 2018 07:49 (five years ago) link

find him charming and inyeresting in re the way he looked at his acreer and though maybe regretted itt later simply chose to have fun with his life, in his autobio he talks abt how many decisions he made in his films was purely on 'oh, shooting in jamaica? great' or chance to work with friends as opposed to this is a good part. list of roles he turned down/passed on is quite amazing too the Atlantic was citing some of them - 'Michael Corleone in The Godfather, Han Solo in Star Wars, Randle McMurphy in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest, the lead in Pretty Woman. He was James L. Brooks’s first choice to play the washed-up astronaut love interest in 1983’s Terms of Endearment'

tho according to Burt, Marlon threatened to quit if he was offered the part so he had no chance there app. attaching long quote from his book re Oscars night for Boogie Nights

THOUGH I’VE SEEN parts of Boogie Nights, I’ve never sat down and watched the whole thing. I asked family members not to see it and they didn’t. A few of the jocks I know gave me grief about it, but it was all in fun. I think.
The picture got rave reviews and my performance was recognized with just about every award you could win, and people were predicting I’d win an Oscar. I sat next to Charley Durning at the ceremony. Best Supporting Actor is always the first award.
Just before the show went on the air, Charley said, “You wanna change seats with me so you can be on the outside?”
“No, what are you talking about?” I said.
“You’re gonna get it tonight.”
“Maybe. But who should I thank?” I was so excited my mind was empty.
“Thank me!” Charley said.
“That’s a great idea,” I said. “That’s what I’ll do, I’ll thank you.”
I changed seats with Charley so I was on the end of the row, all set to dash onto the stage to accept the golden statuette, when Mira Sorvino announced: “And the Oscar goes to . . . Robin Williams for Good Will Hunting.”
I once said that I’d rather have a Heisman Trophy than an Oscar.
I lied.
As Robin ran toward the stage, for some inexplicable reason I saluted him. He claimed I flipped him the bird.
Then I had to sit there for the next two hours with people patting me on the back and saying, “You should have won!” But Charley saved me. He grabbed my arm and said, “I made it through World War II. What the hell’s this thing?”
That night I locked myself in my hotel room and shut off the phone to concentrate on feeling sorry for myself. Jon Voight called to commiserate, but per my instructions, the switchboard wouldn’t put him through. Jon being Jon, he came to the hotel, borrowed a waiter’s uniform, and carried a room service tray into the room. I was in bed with my face in a book and didn’t notice him . . . until he threw himself on the bed and kissed me square on the mouth. It shocked me out of my funk and we spent the rest of the night laughing. Jon can always make me laugh.

H in Addis, Sunday, 9 September 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

That’s kinda great. Durning sounds a kick <3

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 9 September 2018 14:53 (five years ago) link

obit roundup (btw he hadn't shot the Tarantino role)

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/5911-remembering-burt-reynolds

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:25 (five years ago) link

I saw it at the time and don't remember anything, but wasn't Pakula's Starting Over the first attempt to remake him as a more serious actor?

clemenza, Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

well, it was after Deliverance and Hustle.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

(i know some ppl saw Hustle as a genre shoot-em-up, which was cloddish of them)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

voted for The End, although having not seen it in 30+ years, no idea if it holds up

Darin, Sunday, 9 September 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

I thought of both Deliverance and Hustle, but with Deliverance he wasn't yet a big star--he didn't really have a persona yet--and with Hustle, it just wasn't a big film. I was thinking more of something that would get him some critical acclaim, maybe even an Academy Award nomination; Starting Over seemed like that kind of film. (I sometimes get Starting Over and It's My Turn mixed up.)

clemenza, Sunday, 9 September 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

i'm not a huge Godfather devotee, but damn there was almost several terrible castings of Michael.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 16:27 (five years ago) link

per a quick look at the b.o. charts, both Hustle and Starting Over were #17 in domestic b.o. in their respective years.

https://web.archive.org/web/20080605203026/http://www.boxofficereport.com/database/1975.shtml

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

I thought of both Deliverance and Hustle, but with Deliverance he wasn't yet a big star--he didn't really have a persona yet--and with Hustle, it just wasn't a big film. I was thinking more of something that would get him some critical acclaim, maybe even an Academy Award nomination; Starting Over seemed like that kind of film. (I sometimes get Starting Over and It's My Turn mixed up.)

― clemenza, Sunday, September 9, 2018

He was always proud of the film and thought he'd get an Oscar nod (Clayburgh and Candace Bergen did instead).

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 September 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

I don't recall it being very good. The pedigree did the work (ie, typical Oscar shit).

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

it's muffled in that TV movie '70s way.

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

the wall-to-wall carpeting absorbs the performances

The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:08 (five years ago) link

I once said that I’d rather have a Heisman Trophy than an Oscar. I lied.

Damn. The Academy hands out dozens of Oscars every year, like banana pellets at a primate research center. There's only one Heisman winner per year.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

Easily one of the strangest sets in film history. Ernest Borgnine's office in Robert Aldrich's Hustle (1975), all wood paneling and deep reds, with an incongruously black-and-white Los Angeles skyline seen out the window. No-one to my knowledge has ever attempted to explain this. pic.twitter.com/0BhJmuCR30

— 𝕿𝖗𝖔𝖚𝖇𝖑𝖊 𝕰𝖛𝖊𝖗𝖞 𝕯𝖆𝖞 (@NickPinkerton) September 9, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 September 2018 02:35 (five years ago) link

ha ha! wow

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 September 2018 03:25 (five years ago) link

Film noir homage? Maybe Aldrich reused a shot from Kiss Me Deadly?

Josefa, Monday, 10 September 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

I watched Hooper last night for the first time - definitely enjoyable, much more in the Smokey & the Bandit vein.

Although I gotta say: Hal Needham’s movies look like fkn local news, they are SO workmanlike it’s almost depressing sometimes. The stunt sequence at the end was so cool but it was shot in such a “fuckit whatever” way that you miss the scope. Everything’s either close up or too far away, lol. But I do love how much room he gives Reynolds & the other actors to just be natural. Lots of personality, even if there is minimal (read: zero) flair

saw Smokey And The Bandit for the first time at a $5 screening this week: at first I was taken aback at the sometimes "set and forget" staging of some of the turnaround chase scenes, but it's not like there's no dynamics in other moments (the sense of propulsion in the Bandit / Cledus CB scenes!), and I ended up figuring that Needham was giving the viewer a perspective of what an IRL viewer might be startled by in those moments.

Mighty Seething Bat (sic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

yeah maybe he started out shooting stock film or something — it’s pretty funny once you start to notice it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link

Watched Sharky’s Machine tonight. Kinda fun, definitely skeezy (though to answer a question from upthread, it’s not nearly as ugly as 52 Pickup; the scene where Burt slaps Rachel Ward around aside, most of the implied depravity is offscreen), but a bit overlong. This is actually time that I’ve managed to not like Charles Durning in a movie, which is a pretty dubious accomplishment. Henry Silva’s sicko villain was interesting, and there are some nicely staged sequences: I especially liked the mid-movie evidence processing montage sequence for it’s efficiency; Burt finds a nice way to avoid an info dump.

Engles in the Outfield (cryptosicko), Saturday, 22 September 2018 03:49 (five years ago) link

*actually THE FIRST time

Engles in the Outfield (cryptosicko), Saturday, 22 September 2018 03:49 (five years ago) link

ha ha! wow

― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, September 10, 2018 1:25 PM (one week ago)

Film noir homage? Maybe Aldrich reused a shot from Kiss Me Deadly?

― Josefa, Monday, September 10, 2018 1:29 PM (one week ago)

saw Vertigo on 70mm yesterday: San Francisco outside Midge's apartment window is a B&W still by day, colour film by night.

Bitty Gingham Sheet (sic), Saturday, 22 September 2018 07:55 (five years ago) link


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