i love caribbean sunset too!
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 7 September 2018 09:09 (five years ago) link
Oh, I listen to The Island Years set more than anything else.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 September 2018 13:39 (five years ago) link
I find a couple of other tracks nice enough but not classics.
half past france is a classic imo
this isn’t my favorite cale album either but it’s perfectly formed regardless imo
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 13:54 (five years ago) link
half Past France is my favorite on this but yeah there are a couple of out-of-place clunkers on it (Macbeth, Graham Greene)
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:54 (five years ago) link
macbeth rules wtf
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
those tracks are fun and i would like the album less without them, especially "graham"
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 7 September 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
chopping down the pplwhere they stand
Yes, Caribbean Sunset rulez!!! Hungry For Love is my jam!!!!!
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 7 September 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
he should do something special in Paris 2020
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 7 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link
The Endless Plain Of Fortune is my pick these days... opening track forever, tho
― brimstead, Friday, 7 September 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
Down in TransvaalWhere Crocodiles and men fight on
― velko, Monday, 17 September 2018 06:51 (five years ago) link
"Graham Greene" might be my favourite John Cale lyric! He shoots for "Randy Newman, but English" and succeeds spectacularly, it's such a delicate yet savage song.
"Macbeth" isn't just out-of-place, it's also a bad song on an otherwise perfect album
― fgti is for (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 17 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link
this was being discussed on boring ass steve hoffman forums too. and ironically I'd been listening to it (and lots of Cale) a ton over the past few months. Certainly top-tier Cale IMO but really I like almost all of his output that isn't Words for the Dying.
― akm, Monday, 17 September 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
i like the way "macbeth" interrupts the mood — I kinda feel like every classic album should have one of those outliers.
― tylerw, Monday, 17 September 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link
Yes, Macbeth is awesome, it's like Glam Rock before Glam Rock existed.
"Randy Newman, but English"
I assume this is a deliberate mistake?
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:12 (five years ago) link
People I must tell you right now my favorite John Cale song is Ski Patrol.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:20 (five years ago) link
Why? It's, like, not very good.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:40 (five years ago) link
uh, glam rock definitely existed in 1973
― Number None, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 06:30 (five years ago) link
Deliberate mistake.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:18 (five years ago) link
Oh Tom D, Ski Patrol is such fun!
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:26 (five years ago) link
Fair enough, sounds like a feeble throwaway to me, I suppose I have to give him credit for writing a song about such an unlikely subject.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link
I still stick with the older warner archives remastering of this, could not get comfortable with the bonus tracks remaster at all
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
it is true that Macbeth breaks the autumnal quality therein, but man its hard for me to understand how anybody thinks its bad. That is one bumpin' ass beat by richie fuckin' hayward! He never did anything remotely like it again, did he?
in early 2013, I saw JC do the whole record at BAM, and it was pretty much a drag: the tunes were in different keys than the record (of course he can't sing like that anymore), wasn't played in sequence, it didn't seem like he was into it, and Macbeth in particular sounded weak.
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
which is to say, cale never did anything like that again
didn't know about that earlier remaster, Ilike the new one but now I'm intrigued xxpost
― StanM, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
I mean I think it’s the first CD of it so maybe remasterIng is the wrong word to use. Neither version sounds great to me but older one is less bad. Would like to hear a good vinyl rip.
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:54 (five years ago) link
there are, perhaps, a single-digit number of records i like more than this one
― ciderpress, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link
had no idea that lowell george and richie hayward played on this album
― ACAB for cutie (voodoo chili), Monday, 8 June 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link
I like the slow songs on here the best
― brimstead, Monday, 8 June 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
One vote for "Antarctica Starts Here"? That is insane.
― Subverted by buggery (Tom D.), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link
The expanded, remastered CD sounds great (although some listeners prefer at least some of the original; it's good to have both). And I love hearing the demos, rehearsals, alt. takes, outtakes----nothing against the orchestration, but so good to be there with the basic group---Wilton Felder of the (then or recently Jazz) Crusaders on bass with George and Hayward of Little Feat, Cale playing the hell out of his keyboards and some other instruments.10. Burned Out Affair (outtake) 11. Child's Christmas In Wales (alternate version) 12. Hanky Panky Nowhow (drone mix) 13. The Endless Plain Of Fortune (alternate version) 14. Andalucia (alternate version) 15. Macbeth (rehearsal) 16. Paris 1919 (string mix) 17. Graham Greene (rehearsal) 18. Half Past France (alternate version) 19. Antarctica Starts Here (rehearsal) 20. Paris 1919 (piano mix) 21. Macbeth (different instrumental backing track) - HIDDEN TRACK
― dow, Tuesday, 9 June 2020 02:23 (three years ago) link
Knew about the Little Feat fellows but had forgotten about Felder, if I ever knew he was on this.
― How I Wrote Neuroplastic Man (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
This is one of the few perfect albums
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Tuesday, 9 June 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link