Hopsin has some real corny libertarian-ish views, Logic can be cloying with his Mensa-membership-card schtick, Cole is like a parody of a Nas stan. I probably wouldn't throw on any of their records for fun, but its absolutely insane to say these guys can't rap their asses off. The whole "shocked elmo because white guy heard someone rap fast" meme really does sum up that chops are absolutely unfashionable and uncool, which – whatever, like what you wanna like – but it runs counter to what rap was from like 1973 to like 2003. And also discounts that these guys are making some of the most popular rap albums on earth even though a bunch of people who have heard a Gaslight Anthem album thinks they're wack
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link
everyone on earth agrees Em can rap just like everyone agrees Malmsteen can shred. how much value should be placed on that in isolation depends on what type of listener you are I suppose
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
like how many of the ppl dismissing Em now do so on the basis that his internal rhyme schemes of syllable rate have fallen off
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
*or
everyone on earth agrees Em can rap just like everyone agrees Malmsteen can shred. how much value should be placed on that in isolation depends on what type of listener you are I suppose― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, September 4, 2018 10:25 AM (three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, September 4, 2018 10:25 AM (three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I agree with this
I'm just saying rap itself was a competitive, skills-based artform from its earliest years. And while, yes, the genre can/will evolve; I think it's ridiculous to completely dismiss the people who still keep the tradition moving forward.
It's like *telling* that old Eighties/Nineties rappers in my feed are goo-goo-eyed for the new Em, but ILXors are passing around ... Chris D'Elia routines.
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
Feed vs. squad.
I thought he was at his best when he was at his most reactive/reactionary a la "Without Me." Now that he is not or is certainly much less culturally relevant (imo?), as popular as he may remain he just hasn't found much of a way to write/rhyme himself back into the narrative, and said internal rhyme schemes definitely skirt self-parody minus a big picture hook on which to hang their absurdity.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
It's like *telling* that old Eighties/Nineties rappers in my feed are goo-goo-eyed for the new Em, but ILXors are passing around you are definitely the master of I'm not saying I'm just saying posts where you don't actually say anything just somehow imply that everyone except you doesn't like rap in the right wayI got fuckin vhs tapes of mtv raps don't come sideways like I give a fuck about gaslight anthemI gave you a specific example of the new Black Thought which is dope that you purposefully ignored...or the new Ka/Animoss thing is incredible, both are more lyrical and musical than Em
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link
Hopsin,Cole logic of course the can * but they can't seem to do anything with itat that point do we need to stan for Smack DVD/Youtube battle dudes like Daylyt or Iron Solomon?cuz honestly that's what Em reminds me most of nowadaysRoyce is doing much better records in the last few years if you want an example of someone in his own campalso there is a semi popular West Coast guy named Kendrick Lamar who is pretty popular which seems to suggest that the problem isn't necessarily that people hate skills when they are applied to actually meaningful and dope music
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1572Ij0t1E
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 25 April 2019 06:36 (four years ago) link
Unbelievably bad even for 2019 Eminem
yeah, he does sound really bad on this mash-up posted by the "Official Video SLR" YouTube channel!
― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 25 April 2019 07:27 (four years ago) link
Yeesh they should have payed the money for a Nelly verse instead.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 25 April 2019 07:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kfl3N9nesRg
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
maybe more Devo
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 May 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
lmao dude
― frogbs, Friday, 17 January 2020 16:25 (four years ago) link
I am... into this album
I don't know what to do with this information
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link
Middle fingers put em highThat's why they call it a bird'cause you put it up in the sky
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
A few of the early songs were almost enjoyable but I got to that ^^^ and decided to bounce. (I also skipped "Stepdad" and "Darker" a few seconds in.)
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
I am very into "Darkness" and "Yah Yah" so far
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
yeah i mean, sometimes he's sheer lunatic technical virtuosity takes it to a very weird place, his verse on yah yah is nuts
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
I always do this with new Em records, check it out in hopes of enjoying the viscerally thrilling rapping, which there's always plenty of, but then inevitably get fatigued by the self-pity, tired jokes, and the nauseating syrupy stadium hooks. Not worth it.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link
(the definition of insanity etc)
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
I'm trying to think of some rock musician/guitar player analogy for Eminem - a technically virtuosic asshole that deploys his skills in the service of some of the stupidest aesthetic decisions possible.
all I'm comin up with is Ted Nugent.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link
(I know Em doesn't share his politics but still)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
based on early peak and quick decline and being a blonde bastard, maybe Rod Stewart
― omar little, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link
Rod Stewart has rarely lost his charm.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
this is Yngwie Malmsteen
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:00 (four years ago) link
Now here's to LL, Big L and DelK-Solo, Treach, and G RapDJ Polo, Tony D, ODB, Moe Dee, Run-DMCEd OG, and EPMD, D.O.C., Ice-T, Evil DeeKing Tee, UTFO, and Schoolly D, PE, and BDPYZ and Chi-Ali, Rakim and Eric B., they were like my therapyFrom B.I.G. and Paris, Three Times Dope, and some we'll never see, and PRTN.W.A and Eazy-E, and D-R-E was like my GPS
I enjoyed this
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link
can't spell yngvie malmsteen without e m i n e m
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link
I always do this with new Em records, check it out in hopes of enjoying the viscerally thrilling rapping, which there's always plenty of, but then inevitably get fatigued by the self-pity, tired jokes, and the nauseating syrupy stadium hooks. Not worth it.― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, January 17, 2020 1:49 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, January 17, 2020 1:49 PM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
If you made a playlist of the just sick rap songs from the last three albums, it would make a pretty good album
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link
if I put a strict 45-minute cap on it, sure.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:22 (four years ago) link
― Οὖτις, Friday, January 17, 2020 12:55 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
nuge is kind of a hack though
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link
one thing that is kind of interesting as Em has developed is that i think he started running out of words to rhyme with other words and he increasingly relies on breaking a word into two-parts at a syllable break so he can rhyme the first half of the word with the end of the next bar instead of the whole word
i don't know if i explained that very well
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broken_rhyme
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link
this is the history (and tragedy) of English poetry though b/c English sucks as a rhyming language and because Em knows 40 words.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link
and this album reminds us that one of them is "Columbine"
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
https://pudding.cool/projects/vocabulary/index.html
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
Eminem is solidly in the middle of the rapper vocabulary conversation; not overly verbose, not stone stupid
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
Good to see my man Ghostface
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
All this chart tells us is something we already know: verbosity and intelligence are not synonymous.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:00 (four years ago) link
Don't think DJP suggested otherwise!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link
The assertion was "Eminem uses the same 40 words" and I posted that to show he's no more or less verbose than the average rapper, which I think we all should be able to agree uses more than 40 words
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
From B.I.G. and Paris, Three Times Dope, and some we'll never see, and PRT
I don't think this is the right line, but I can't figure out what the right line is
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 20 January 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
"and Sondoobiest(IlovethepornosIusedtosee)"
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 20 January 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
I strike a still pose and hit you with some ill flowsthat don't even make sense, like dykes usin dildos
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 25 January 2020 16:32 (four years ago) link
dumbass eminem. some dildos can also be used to store important paperwork and objects (medicine, keys, etc). so you see, it turns out that some lesbians DO have a use for dildos
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 25 January 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/news/2020/11/british-woman-covered-in-eminem-tattoos-breaks-record-640261
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
It’s very annoying that the albums don’t go in chronological order after Kamikaze
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
bloke in the baseball cap looks like fred durst from a distance
― Left, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
"I really want to meet Eminem and I think this might help!"
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 November 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link