yeah, he can fuck off and die. this shouldn't even be a question.
― Yerac, Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:14 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― yes, said (Ross), Friday, 31 August 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link
These surprise appearances by Louis CK keep getting worse https://t.co/N3B0OfjBJ0— andi zeisler (@andizeisler) August 31, 2018
― frogbs, Friday, 31 August 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/arts/louis-ck-comedy-cellar.amp.html
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:25 (five years ago) link
Many club owners in New York, with an eye on ticket sales, said they would welcome him back.
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:47 (five years ago) link
i mean this isn't a bombshell or anything but the driving force behind these shitheads returning to the public eye is always people who know they're gonna make a shitload of money
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:49 (five years ago) link
yup :(
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 30 October 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link
I'm honestly okay with that. Fuck every asshole who books him or buys a ticket, they've shown that they're awful human beings, but... That's kinda good to know?
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link
“So what kind of year have you guys had?” Louis C.K. said, starting off his set. “They tell you that when you get in trouble you find out who your real friends are. It’s black people, it turns out. They’ll stick by you.”
jfc fuck this asshole
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
fuck him for sure, but that is presumably a set-up, not a policy statement. as reporting, it's the equivalent of that horrendous Edinburgh Fringe thread every year.
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link
I lol'd
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link
i'm not particularly concerned about louis ck's livelihood or career but trying to understand the viewpoint here. is there a certain point where he can come back? does he have to make some specific penance or reparations?
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link
he should give all those women he assaulted (and whose careers he affected) a shit-ton of money, make a public effort at apologizing/rectifying the damage he did, and commit to supporting groups that help women recover from this kind of thing
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link
imo
as someone who was pretty invested in his stuff at one point I would like to have seen a little more contrition/acknowledgement beyond the statement he made right before he went away. since he reappeared it seems to have been a string of woe-is-me jokes. lots of people have written about things people could hypothetically do as amends and they've been linked plenty of times on the Weinstein thread.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link
Οὖτις's suggestions there are a fine start
and since he's already trying to come back without having done almost any of those things, he can fuck off forever imo
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
got it.i have to suspect based on his statement way back ("thought it was fine but i mighta been abusing my power"), no statement since, that he hasn't grappled with his own issues / doesn't see the acts as bad but grudgingly forces himself to feel guilty at least in public about some abstract power thing which is easier to deal with.by that i mean, yeah beating in front of women isn't something that condemns you to the blacklist for life, but i think he's probably still a dangerous man.
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
this whole thing reminds me of like when Elvis Costello just kept it moving after the whole N-word thing until everyone just forgot about it. Basically Louis might just be "tweeting through it" as it were
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
Except none of that first sentence happened?
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link
Get Happy!! (1980)Trust (1981)Almost Blue (1981)Imperial Bedroom (1982)Punch the Clock (1983)Goodbye Cruel World (1984)Plus the Taking Liberties B-side comp...
Keeping it moving^
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 18:53 (five years ago) link
Elvis totally apologized for that wtf
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link
xp Oh, okay sure - but an album a year was his speed up to then too? I read you as saying that he refused to talk about it which is, uh, not the case.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link
yeah he totally talked about it - in interviews, in publicly issued apologies - and then immediately afterwards produced the Specials' first album
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
and people definitely didn't "forget about it"
and the analogy sucks
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:08 (five years ago) link
also a public utterance /= actual assault or ruining anyone's career
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link
https://greilmarcus.net/2015/01/15/elvis-costello-explains-himself-090282/
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link
love this new "I am very bad at comparing things to other things" gimmick that Whiney's trying on here
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link
new?
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link
oh he's had some good ones in the past but he's clearly in his Goodbye Cruel World phase now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:22 (five years ago) link
ok lol
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:25 (five years ago) link
He apologized and kept it moving, Louis also apologized and now is keeping it moving
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
Unlike, say, Michael Richards, who apologized and fell of the face of the earth
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:27 (five years ago) link
Louis has not discussed his destructive transgressions publicly the way EC did his totally different transgressions, there's no comparison
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:29 (five years ago) link
Louis made *one* shittily equivocal statement
and then a bunch of public jokes about how hard it's been for him, for which he has been *paid*
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link
like, he is making money off of his "it's funny how I've suffered" routine, it's fucking nauseating
CK could get to Michael Richards level disappearance/punchline for sure. a standup show here and there is one thing, but all the writing, producing, directing, acting gigs are gone and aren't showing signs of coming back yet.
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
when even one of the principal stars of your latest movie thinks no one should see it, you're probably fucked for a good long while
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:32 (five years ago) link
a standup show here and there is one thing, but all the writing, producing, directing, acting gigs are gone and aren't showing signs of coming back yet.
Agreed. Club owners being willing to give you stage time is way different from movie studios/producers being willing to work with you. Also, I don't think he's gonna be lining up any headlining arena shows anytime soon.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link
he fell off the face of the earth a decade before that even happened
― frogbs, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link
I certainly can’t stomach Louis CK anymore but if people still show up for his shows there’s not really much that can be done
― crüt, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
The next day we met for a five-hour conversation. Wearing an unmistakable pair of bright red shoes, Costello was serious about the situation
Forensic journalist Marcus reassures readers that he is fully able to recognise the distinctive form of footwear known as "shoes"
― Sing The Mighty Beat (sic), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link
um... really dude?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0aAGP3ty_A
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link
whiney do you feel that CK has done enough? what is your opinion of him?
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link
The next day we met for a five-hour conversation.
Music journalism is a terrible way to make a living, but at least writers aren't required to spend five hours hanging out with Elvis Costello anymore. Thank Christ for the 20-minute publicist-monitored phoner.
― grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link
whiney do you feel that CK has done enough? what is your opinion of him?― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:20 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Greta Van Fleek (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, October 30, 2018 4:20 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He clearly hasn't done enough. I think people have outlined the many, many better things he could/should do!
I still think Chewed Up is easily top 5 stand-up specials of the 21st Century, I saw Pootie Tang in the theater and I think Lucky Louie was very slept on
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:40 (five years ago) link
I approached Louie at the Knitting Factory in like 2010 just to tell him I loved Lucky Louie and I think he got a raw deal. He informed me he had a new show coming out. I think he was kind of a dick about it iirc?
― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 20:42 (five years ago) link
^^ Amazing evening of Louie reading "The Gift" with Lou Reed, Marc Ribot, and Laurie Anderson backing.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
As much as he complained about his ex-wife when they were married, it's a minor miracle he hasn't just leaned in and gone full MRA comic.
― louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link