There was a whole deal with that thread and google iirc
― coetzee.cx (wins), Friday, 31 August 2018 16:05 (five years ago) link
it's v enjoyable to see everyone rip into them on twitter & their total inability to defend themselves suggests they know they're full of it
your disgraceful bias has lost you hundreds of readers a day yet you persist in it because you apparently consider your idealogical role as hit squad for the capitalist class more important than actually being a successful capitalist corporation— David Graeber (@davidgraeber) September 26, 2018
― ogmor, Friday, 28 September 2018 11:05 (five years ago) link
It’s tempting to think that the the influx from the Evening Standard and Buzzfeed, etc, has changed the nature of their reporting over the last few years but then Michael White pops up on Twitter talking about Fenians and you remember they’ve been appalling for decades.
― Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Friday, 28 September 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link
as have Liberals
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Friday, 28 September 2018 11:24 (five years ago) link
#BoycottTheGuardian was trending on Twitter yesterday but there wasn't a clear explanation of *why* anywhere, if I hadn't made an effort to find out I might have thought it was due to the right wing users who complain about "guardianistas" upset about Tommy Robinson or something.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 28 September 2018 11:37 (five years ago) link
I suspect Guardian boycotters would avoid it anyway.
― Madchen, Friday, 28 September 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link
Kerry-Anne Mendoza from the Canary was booked to do a lecture at Kings Place by the NUJ and dozens of Guardian contributors complained online and are trying to have her cancelled. I’m no great fan of the Canary or its editor but the booking was for a particular BAME lecture given every year, the people going after KAM so far are white, and she’s not. Really bad optics all around.
― suzy, Friday, 28 September 2018 11:56 (five years ago) link
Who exactly is the Guardian for? pic.twitter.com/KTvuqO6n0T— Peter (@pickyouredge) October 6, 2018
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Saturday, 6 October 2018 20:51 (five years ago) link
May reclaiming cuddly One Nation Toryism via nothing more than lip service, whilst still actually killing disableds and maintaining a foodbank regime of low unemployment poverty has The Graun seal of approval it seems. Yes what was it I ever actually liked about these cunts again? Can't remember.
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
Once read a Francis Wheen book, used to like Kakuro puzzles. I actually used to be a regular print guardian reader of sorts - wouldna wipe my arse on it these days. Must have needed my fucking head looking at!
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link
I want voters who may previously have thought of themselves as Labour supporters to look at my government afresh. They will find a decent, moderate and patriotic programme that is worthy of their support....Last year, I made fixing our broken housing market my personal mission....In the past, economic change has left some communities behind. This time it will be different. Government is today stepping up to its proper strategic role in our economy, ensuring that good jobs and real opportunity are spread across the whole country – with every town and city seeing the benefit....So these are our Conservative solutions that will build a country that works for everyone: fixing markets, not destroying them; helping with the cost of living; ending austerity; building an economy of the future which benefits the whole country.
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― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
Don't mention 'disabled' to a Tory whatever you do.
― Zach Same (Tom D.), Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
I knew they were struggling to sell broadsheet quality journalism for the price of a thimble of piss, never mind a fancy coffee! But this will cause long term damage to what's left of their "brand".
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
missed a set of ""'s there!
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link
Looking forward to them adding "Anyone But Corbyn" to the masthead.
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
Can’t wait for the piece Corbyn has for the Mail.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 6 October 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link
"My years as an evil Paedophile Soviet Agent taught me more than anything that we need to capture the centre ground to be serious players...
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
I'm not saying all the goodwill + plaudits for Amelia Gentleman's Windrush exposes are totally negated by this, but running dubious Conservative Party adverts when they already have the greatest part of the print press already doing this is a very bad move on many levels for The Graun imo.
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 22:36 (five years ago) link
Amelia Gentleman is married to Jo Johnson, please don’t forget that.
― suzy, Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link
didn't they do this semi-regularly in the Cameron era? was always puzzled by what the Guardian thought they stood to gain from it
― still wackford after all these squeers (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:14 (five years ago) link
Not wanting to pay your site mods overtime is not owning the consequences of your liberal above-it-all bullshit!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link
xpI can't remember that, but it wouldn't surprise me if they had Cameron/Cooper talking about "difficult decisions" or whatever back then, because they were all singing from the hymn sheet then and who could really tell the difference?
― calzino, Saturday, 6 October 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link
jfc, news to me.
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Sunday, 7 October 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link
"what have you been up to today then?" "ah, the usual!"
― calzino, Sunday, 7 October 2018 00:19 (five years ago) link
"just tried to get my pal Toby Young into an important education job .. oh how is the Windrush piece going! ... etc
― calzino, Sunday, 7 October 2018 00:27 (five years ago) link
here are some book covers and illustrations and murals by amelia g's dad david (i love his book art, his paintings -- mostly of fancy british houses -- i find less interesting tbh: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ce/67/d9/ce67d9e4b470b7f0d934fb35c4b01ba8.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3d/e0/4c/3de04c8de70b2ad0f25af0dc3a7521dd.jpghttp://citytransport.info/Digi/P1270315a.jpg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/de/Ironmanhughesadamson1968.jpg/220px-Ironmanhughesadamson1968.jpghttps://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41FamLdCV5L._SY373_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
fenella in greece is one of a series: checking the dates, I don't think fenella can be based on amelia -- he has two other daughters by earlier marriages but I can't source their names. I only know the greece one: the illustrations are evocative and the text is quite sweet -- a small child discovers abroad! -- though all very evidently extremely middleclass also…
― mark s, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link
he is a very good illustrator tbf!
― calzino, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:59 (five years ago) link
lovely stuff
― Leon Carrotsky (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link
studied under edward bawden, if tim is reading -- most obvious in the first image (bawden also illustrated cookery books)
― mark s, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link
Yeah I really love David Gentleman's work.
I love this also, which is by his dad, Tom Gentleman (love it so much we have it up in our flat)
https://www.tate.org.uk/art/images/work/P/P01/P01705_10.jpg
― Tim, Sunday, 7 October 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
that's tremendous.
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 7 October 2018 22:17 (five years ago) link
just thinking about thos ales.
― calzino, Sunday, 7 October 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link
David Gentleman is still going and did (does?) posters for the Stop The War coalition.Quite a career.http://www.davidgentleman.com/resized/WEB-11-PROTEST---08.jpg
― Ned Trifle X, Monday, 8 October 2018 08:32 (five years ago) link
i think at this point it would be fair to regard the guardian as the enemy, excepting a few individual journalists
― imago, Thursday, 18 October 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link
Honestly my favourite thing about using a content blocker for my phone is never seeing their pleas for money to fund their terf/racist/apologist shit again. That editorial was a disgrace, but it’s just the latest in a long line of shit.
― gyac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link
What piece are youse referring to?
― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
the editorial on the Gender Recognition Act I presume. tldr. Knew it would be a load of hateful shite.
― calzino, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link
Yep, that’s the one.
― gyac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
what exactly do terfs get out of it
― imago, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:14 (five years ago) link
When I say terfs I don’t mean women; in fact, terfs are much more likely to be men. Women are for the most part, very supportive of trans women. People claiming terf means women are deliberately trying to peddle a fake misogyny narrative. It’s a position based on transphobia.— Lily🌹Madigan (@LilyMadigan99) October 9, 2018
Who knew men were the radical feminists and not women?
― Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link
you are all joking, surely? the vilest and most hateful part of that particular debate has come from the radical trans wing, abuse from whom against lesbian feminists particularly has been shocking. i was extraordinarly relieved to read even that level support from the guardian.
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link
show your...working?
― imago, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:28 (five years ago) link
what?
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:29 (five years ago) link
I’m not sure how you can equivocate people doing their best to smear all trans people as paedophiles and rapists against whatever you’ve been seeing? Or the crowd who were out in Manchester the other night approaching random men and warning them trans women were a threat to their daughters?
― gyac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link
in what way is it inspiring?
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:34 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i guess this is not the thread where you can question the question, though.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 01:47 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^ jed is a terf and I claim my £5
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:31 (five years ago) link
that's not what they were doing, it was a couple of activists, not a crowd. conversely, I haven't seen any feminist activists label all trans men as paedophiles and rapists. I have, however, seen trans labour councillors telling (women's councillors!) labour women with concerns to "go fuck themselves" (lilly Madigan) or to "go and suck my big lady cock" (tanya love) if they disagreed with trans women having access to women's safe-spaces.
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:37 (five years ago) link
Thank you for that paste, saves me engaging further here in good faith and wasting any time. As we all know by now, civility is the most important part in a debate about human rights!
― gyac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link
hey jed, go fuck yourself
― imago, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link
thank you.
― FRE SHA VAC ADO (jed_), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link
Twitter is unbearable now due to this stuff, can we not spread it here please?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link