The Jordan Peterson Thread

I dont want to critique anyone’s diet but the bizarre and intrue apple cider anecdote is clearly and objectively hilarious

I'm sorry but anyone eating red meat and literally nothing else is lying or heading for an early grave, I dont think thats beyond reproach?

pointing out that the human body can literally not survive on 25 days of no sleep and eating nothing but red meat is not criticizing someone's diet

criticizing people's diets is never cool, unless it's jordan peterson's diet

actually it would be cool if he went 25 days without sleep eating nothing but red meat cuz then he would be dead

Finally heard this dumb dick's voice thanks to Contrapoints' video and holy shit, the Kermit connection is if anything not made fun of *enough*

Not only Kermit but a Canadian Kermit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_9sXf6s7aw

you could probably go a long time just eating red meat without dying. it would be miserable. meat and greens i think would probably not be THAT unsustainable, if you rotated your greens and stuck to leaner meats.

That's a subject for another thread but boy criticizing other's people diet is never a good look. I can't stand it when people do it to me. It's the kind of shit the Jordan Petersons of this world pulls on other innocent people who would just like to eat whatever they want, I won't play that game.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:46 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just eating meat is totally congruent with his "ideology". pseudo-scientific and masculinist

"soy boy" is not insult of choice for his acolytes for no reason. eating a plant-based diet is effeminate in their world

Soy isnt great for you tbf. Vegetables are—you need to war vegetables to be optimally healthy this is like the only health consensus.

Inuits traditionally do fine eating little to no vegetables, although the range of animal protein they eat is far different from what non-Inuits can access

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/e0/a6/cbe0a656e770720db9dc57ea4e3f5db1.jpg

Inuits traditionally do fine eating little to no vegetables, although the range of animal protein they eat is far different from what non-Inuits can access

― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:59 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

inuits traditionally gather and eat as much plant matter as they possibly can and only don't have a culture of growing plants because their environment doesn't allow for cultivation

How much can they gather in the winter though? I don't know, but I'm guessing it's pretty minimal?

soy is Fine, Actually

Inuits also eating fish, which is not red meat

How much can they gather in the winter though? I don't know, but I'm guessing it's pretty minimal?

― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:20 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some plants can be gathered in winter, including some berries which are found through digging in the snow. inuit also use preservation, drying, and fermentation. storing plants and meat for the winter in seal fat or inside a dried seal etc.

their diet was still hugely meat-based obviously. they ate more of a range of meat than mr peterson though obv - fish, caribou, seals

(sorry for using the past-tense, referring to the traditional diet which has been impacted by modernity, climate change, etc.)

Soy isnt great for you tbf.

Just look at the damage it's done to the short-lived people of Japan.

hey y'all buy my book: We're All Gonna Die Anyway So Don't Get Neurotic About Every Single Thing You Eat

one of the great sins of soy from the "just eat meat" crowd is that it contains phytoestrogens

Drink liquor
Not apple cider
Mostly bourbon

phytoestrogens might be bad or they might be good

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/

It’s fine to avoid soy, other legumes, grains, sugar and alcohol if you want. Eating only meat though is not fine.

It’s also fine to be a vegan and eat tons of soy. Any diet that is not like based on active self harm is fine. Standard american diet probably not fine

my diet is really bad :/

Like Russian novelist bad?

It’s not just a matter of personal taste - the Peterson’s are promoting this diet.

tbf is it really such a bad thing for him to promote possibly fatal practices to his followers

just ayin

sayin

sleeper agent peterson has been activated

Maybe that was the plan the whole time!

Tbf my cat does pretty well on close to an all-beef diet.

If you don’t exercise, eating a lot of meat can probably cause digestive problems and bowel problems, which can cause illnesses

I guess if you have a good digestive system and eat the right amount of meat and don’t move much it might work, but I’m doubtful

Red meat is difficult to digest on its own, without the aide of exercising and/or fibre

But i do believe different types of bodies call for different types of diets, so a vegetarian diet can actually be harmful to someone but beneficial to another

Tbf my cat does pretty well on close to an all-beef diet.

― The inexorable rise of identity condiments (Sund4r), Thursday, August 30, 2018 12:55 PM (forty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

cats are pure carnivores

I should publish a diet book called “the wisdom of cats” where i advise people to eat birds whole including feathers, beaks etc

The occasional cockroach if it scuttles across the floor and you feel curious

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It's interesting that a psychologist didn't consider that his 'cider' episode was some kind of breakdown. But I guess he's not a psychiatrist...

True. It’s weird that he assumes a month-long episode of “doom” and “terror” had purely physiological causes.

It also did not happen so what does a psychiatrist would say about lying to the public.

True. It’s weird that he assumes a month-long episode of “doom” and “terror” had purely physiological causes.

Interestingly, I've just finished reading "The Authoritarian Personality" so I know that, according to its findings, this is a trait very often displayed by those psychiatric patients who have fascistic tendencies.

https://s22.postimg.cc/ek6qykmkx/48_F1183_D-_F177-4_F44-8672-6_F93_C2_FBFE4_B.jpg

Someone who is enthralled by their own intellect of course isn't going to think their awesome brain would be able to be fooled by its less conscious-driven functions.

I should publish a diet book called “the wisdom of cats” where i advise people to eat birds whole including feathers, beaks etc

― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:49 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The occasional cockroach if it scuttles across the floor and you feel curious

― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Thursday, August 30, 2018 3:50 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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― imago, Thursday, August 30, 2018 4:07 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

OTM. The Petersons are half-assing this shit.

To use an expression that might not be acceptable anymore, he sounds like an unhinged lunatic in that interview. Food sensitivies can certainly affect mood but they cant, alone, trigger an episode like what he describes.

To be fair to him, i’ve had depressive episodes where i had very poor quality and intermittent sleep and this lasted for weeks. I can kind of grasp the kind of thing he is taking about but it just can’t have been the cider, unless the cider made him feel like the “order” of his system became unbalanced, but that is a psychological response

imago at 5:07 30 Aug 18

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No sleep for 25 days is of course a lie. And it’s really not good practice for a psychologist to exaggerate their symptoms in such a maudlin way.