The Jordan Peterson Thread

Vancouver/Canada is filled with these types of people with bizarre diets based on pseudoscience, except a lot of them are vegetarian or vegan

It’s not surprising the same culture creates an environment where there are loonies that have wacky meat diets and/or give baseless advice

the most interesting part of the atlantic article to me was the psycjosomatic explanation for the daughter’s real and serious symptoms disappearing—that simplifying your diet can drastically eliminate stress.

they're *lying*. they are not eating only beef. that the atlantic did a remotely credulous article about this just says a lot about the atlantic.

I’d believe meat and greens. I can envision someone doing that. Not solely beef, salt and water though.

And vodka and bourbon of course.

shouts to eating like a robber baron

does joe rogan deliberately invite people who make him sound like an incredulous voice of reason by comparison?

probably, but also he's just not very bright

I listened to one of his podcasts on which he had a reasonable person and a crackpot on together and Rogan angrily, vehemently sided with the crackpot

Joe Rogan has done a good job legitimizing far right crackpot by showing they can hang with him, an affable stoner bro who likes to work out and sometimes, like, get deep and shit

i've known some actually pleasant affable stoner bros and i feel like you're doing them a disservice with your comparison.

I once went through a ridiculous elimination diet regime a bit like what this Peterson woman has done, though nowhere near as insane as hers (I was reduced to plain meat, pears, plain oats and stuff - I still got all my vitamins in other words)

And in hindsight I frankly think I was convinced psychologically that salicylic acid was "bad" for me. That amines were "bad" for me. That if I ate a few traces of tomato or cheese or wtf ever I was suddenly down with a headache or itchy skin IT WAS ALL FUCKING PSYCHOSOMATIC. I wasted a lot of time, money and energy on utter BS.

That's a subject for another thread but boy criticizing other's people diet is never a good look. I can't stand it when people do it to me. It's the kind of shit the Jordan Petersons of this world pulls on other innocent people who would just like to eat whatever they want, I won't play that game.

lotta negativity in this thread, you guys gotta lay off the apple cider, it's basically depression juice

I dont want to critique anyone’s diet but the bizarre and intrue apple cider anecdote is clearly and objectively hilarious

I'm sorry but anyone eating red meat and literally nothing else is lying or heading for an early grave, I dont think thats beyond reproach?

pointing out that the human body can literally not survive on 25 days of no sleep and eating nothing but red meat is not criticizing someone's diet

criticizing people's diets is never cool, unless it's jordan peterson's diet

actually it would be cool if he went 25 days without sleep eating nothing but red meat cuz then he would be dead

Finally heard this dumb dick's voice thanks to Contrapoints' video and holy shit, the Kermit connection is if anything not made fun of *enough*

Not only Kermit but a Canadian Kermit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_9sXf6s7aw

you could probably go a long time just eating red meat without dying. it would be miserable. meat and greens i think would probably not be THAT unsustainable, if you rotated your greens and stuck to leaner meats.

That's a subject for another thread but boy criticizing other's people diet is never a good look. I can't stand it when people do it to me. It's the kind of shit the Jordan Petersons of this world pulls on other innocent people who would just like to eat whatever they want, I won't play that game.

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:46 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just eating meat is totally congruent with his "ideology". pseudo-scientific and masculinist

"soy boy" is not insult of choice for his acolytes for no reason. eating a plant-based diet is effeminate in their world

Soy isnt great for you tbf. Vegetables are—you need to war vegetables to be optimally healthy this is like the only health consensus.

Inuits traditionally do fine eating little to no vegetables, although the range of animal protein they eat is far different from what non-Inuits can access

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/cb/e0/a6/cbe0a656e770720db9dc57ea4e3f5db1.jpg

Inuits traditionally do fine eating little to no vegetables, although the range of animal protein they eat is far different from what non-Inuits can access

― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 9:59 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

inuits traditionally gather and eat as much plant matter as they possibly can and only don't have a culture of growing plants because their environment doesn't allow for cultivation

How much can they gather in the winter though? I don't know, but I'm guessing it's pretty minimal?

soy is Fine, Actually

Inuits also eating fish, which is not red meat

How much can they gather in the winter though? I don't know, but I'm guessing it's pretty minimal?

― Josefa, Thursday, August 30, 2018 10:20 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

some plants can be gathered in winter, including some berries which are found through digging in the snow. inuit also use preservation, drying, and fermentation. storing plants and meat for the winter in seal fat or inside a dried seal etc.

their diet was still hugely meat-based obviously. they ate more of a range of meat than mr peterson though obv - fish, caribou, seals

(sorry for using the past-tense, referring to the traditional diet which has been impacted by modernity, climate change, etc.)

Soy isnt great for you tbf.

Just look at the damage it's done to the short-lived people of Japan.

hey y'all buy my book: We're All Gonna Die Anyway So Don't Get Neurotic About Every Single Thing You Eat

one of the great sins of soy from the "just eat meat" crowd is that it contains phytoestrogens

Drink liquor
Not apple cider
Mostly bourbon

phytoestrogens might be bad or they might be good

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428/

It’s fine to avoid soy, other legumes, grains, sugar and alcohol if you want. Eating only meat though is not fine.

It’s also fine to be a vegan and eat tons of soy. Any diet that is not like based on active self harm is fine. Standard american diet probably not fine

my diet is really bad :/

Like Russian novelist bad?

It’s not just a matter of personal taste - the Peterson’s are promoting this diet.

tbf is it really such a bad thing for him to promote possibly fatal practices to his followers

just ayin

sayin

sleeper agent peterson has been activated

Maybe that was the plan the whole time!

Tbf my cat does pretty well on close to an all-beef diet.

If you don’t exercise, eating a lot of meat can probably cause digestive problems and bowel problems, which can cause illnesses

I guess if you have a good digestive system and eat the right amount of meat and don’t move much it might work, but I’m doubtful

Red meat is difficult to digest on its own, without the aide of exercising and/or fibre

But i do believe different types of bodies call for different types of diets, so a vegetarian diet can actually be harmful to someone but beneficial to another