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he made it "to combat a modern trend toward atheism"

Well that worked.

No and yes!

Western culture not exactly free of Judeo-Christian influence since the 1940s, especially, maybe, Hollywood

The "combatting atheism" quote is hilarious as, from the modern perspective, IAWL feels as much of a work of pop spirituality as The Force in Star Wars. Maybe Capra's guardian angels fit more snugly within the Judea-Christian tradition, but I feel like the film is hardly what contemporary Christians mean when they bemoan secular culture.

JudeO

crypto otm and more precisely than me

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Whoa, nice

the distance between the way ppl tend to talk about capra and my own experience of his films is so wide that it almost makes me wonder if i'm being totally objective. probably not, but i remember first seeing IAWL around the age of 10 and just being shocked at what a dark and sad film it was, right up until the last 15 minutes. suffice to say none of the "christmas classics" i was familiar with revolved around a man being driven to suicide, complete with a villain who gets away at the end. and every time i see the thing it seems sadder. capra is one of those artists whose ubiquity and reputation may make it difficult to see the darkness in his work (i used to have to make similar defenses of charles schulz). and yeah, his actual real-life politics seem to have been very confused. but "don't trust the teller, trust the tale" applies here i think.

Without giving too much away, David Thomson's 'novel' Suspects definitely speaks to the darkness at the heart of IAWL - and that was first published in 1985, so correctives to Capracorn critiques have been around for a while now.

Yeah, I think "IAWL is some dark shit" is a reasonably popular opinion now, coming both from its admirers and (less laudably) from the "did you notice Shaggy and Scooby are STONERS" brigade. My gf saw it for the first time a few years ago, with next to no previous cultural baggage, and came out of the movie depressed at how sad George's life was.

Capra's own justifications are total bullshit yeah. Bailey's belief in himself is centred around community, which he is both frustrated with and ultimately redeemed by, and the cartoon angels are about as canonical as Here Comes Mr.Jordan.

Re: the movie's supposed reactionary nature, I think the only aspect that you can truly throw that accusation at is Pottersville, the den of booze and Jazz music that springs up w/o George's presence - which is lame and crypto-racist moralizing, yeah, but also not really surprising for a movie from its time. Everything else in the movie is about helping the weak, building community and fighting against a slumlord businessman villain. Morb's point that the screenwriter was a socialist seems pertinent.

Well there's also the Kind Capitalist as the solution to all problems.

Yeah, but the Kind Capitalist leads a pretty sad life and brings his business to ruin through employing an incompetent person through his kindness - I don't think George Bailey can be read as aspirational.

I agree that any film that doesn't offer a thorough Marxist critique of its protagonist is morally bankrupt.

Rewatching The Best Years of Our Lives this evening thanks to TCM and it's still a shock to hear Theresa Wright declare "I'm going to break up that marriage."

lol yeah

I loved people who were captivated by It's a Wonderful Life before I saw the movie, it made it easier for me to appreciate it

It's a Wonderful Life is by a good measure the better film. Not the "righter" film, but the better one.

A movie that calls life "wonderful" and then goes out of its way to prove all the ways it isn't. Baller.

Rewatching The Best Years of Our Lives this evening thanks to TCM and it's still a shock to hear Theresa Wright declare "I'm going to break up that marriage."

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lol yeah

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goat

I say this every time i'm going to break up a marriage