defend the indefensible: glenn fucking greenwald

also this is my last post in this thread, it's been cancer

lol ok doc

greil marcus weighs in:

I think there are strong reasons to believe that Glenn Greenwald, like Edward Snowden, is either a Russian agent or an agent of influence—someone who believes he or she is operating independently but for various reasons, which could involve apparently independent financing or patronage, access to privileged information, facilitation through cut outs, and so on, is in fact promoting stories, arguments, individuals, and policies his or her controllers want promoted. The argument that there is no difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is, from either a right or left perspective, lunacy—unless you believe there is no difference between the US and Russia, which is to say that you believe that democracy, as practiced in the US and much of the West, is a hoax, and that politics is only a point-by-point choice between autocracies and kleptocracies.

When I read Greenwald in Salon, I thought he merely demonstrated textbook symptoms of paranoia, in particular over-sourcing every assertion, argument, statement of apparent fact, as if to say I KNOW YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME BUT LOOK AT THIS THE PROOF IS HERE YOU CAN’T DENY IT! I think that’s still an essential part of his political personality, but I think now there’s far more going on.

https://greilmarcus.net/ask-greil-2/

like Edward Snowden

stopped reading

Welcome back!

I thought he merely demonstrated textbook symptoms of paranoia, in particular over-sourcing every assertion

citations are for paranoids, blithe accusations of treason in unsupported subclauses are for rock critics

Tennis is really having a bad influence on him. He is anti-Serena as well, it seems.

Yeah he tweeted out some statistics showing that male tennis players have been more frequently penalized for Serena's transgressions than female players have. Then Nate Silver tweeted back that he was not taking into account the rate at which each sex is penalized - in other words maybe male players transgress far more often, which results in them being penalized more.

male tennis players have been more frequently penalized for Serena's transgressions than female players have

This is an...interesting argument (But probably a typo in there)

Or wait, you probably just mean penalized for doing things similar to whatever Serena did, sorry

Exactly. Sorry my bad

Ford’s own words regarding Feinstein’s decision deliberately ignored by Glenn so he can both sides the Dems with what the GOP did w Garland. Cool cool cool. Not at all an irredeemable piece of shit.

That must be maddening, watching expats support a fascist when they have no skin in the game. pic.twitter.com/S05bHbCpDB

— All Hallow’s Eve Not All Hallow’s Steve (@agraybee) October 8, 2018

lollll

Glenn's latest on Brazil where naturally he blames 'the establishment" more than Bolsonaro or those who support Bolsonaro's extremist views

To be sure – as is true of Trump, Brexit, and the rise of right-wing extremism throughout Europe – some substantial minority of Bolsonaro voters are motivated by classic bigotry, racism, anti-LGBT animus, resentment toward the indigenous population, and just a general tribal anger that seeks scapegoats for their plight. But many, probably most, are none of those things.

Many, instead, are motivated by legitimate grievances toward an establishment ruling class that has failed them on all levels, that expresses indifference if not outright contempt for their suffering and loss of hope, that they blame, often with good reason, for enacting policies that have destroyed their futures while refusing to accept any responsibility for it. And once that framework is adopted, any perceived enemy of that ruling class becomes their friend, or at least someone whose vows of destruction become more appealing than vows to preserve the system they justifiably despise (the reality is that Bolsonaro (like Trump), with his Chicago-trained neoliberal economic guru, will serve the economic interests of the establishment with great devotion at the expense of his working-class voters, but the perception of his anti-establishment animus is what matters).

https://theintercept.com/2018/10/08/brazils-bolsonaro-led-far-right-wins-a-victory-far-more-sweeping-and-dangerous-than-anyone-predicted-its-lessons-are-global/

that All Hallow's idiot is in Chappaqua, hmmmmmm

also this is my last post in this thread, it's been cancer

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, August 29, 2018 4:27 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Christ, u guys love these schoolyard callouts huh? *depantses Brad*

i post that that shit all the time, it's part of my fuckin routine, just like Nerdstrom's is being a paid DNC asshole

i would suggest the rest of you actually quit the thread, tho

Are you going to defend him or

excerpt above simply describes fascism; idk how else yall think it works unless it's just "people are hateful bigots and nothing can be done"

Shot shot chaser chaser etc etc pic.twitter.com/1tYEyJ0mR0

— Regina 🌊💪 (@regwag2003) October 8, 2018

Man if this keeps up he's going to have to move to a walled mansion in a *third* country

— asterix.asterix (@hashallthehash) October 8, 2018

This thread is one of the saddest things ever:

Do you guys want to see the most sad, petty & online man on this awful website?
Yesterday @CharlesPPierce rt'ed the great (& prescient) parody account, @GlemGreenwald. So fast forward to this morning, when "someone", out of the blue, creates a Charlies Pierce parody account pic.twitter.com/rGVniiaYTn

— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) November 24, 2018

yeah glenn's attempt at parody was pretty sad

yeah glenn's attempt at parody was pretty sad

Spoke too soon — now he's paying to promote his own tweets... that contain screenshots of... his own tweets. pic.twitter.com/01JUwSneks

— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) November 25, 2018

glennception

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtgtXF0VAAAriC5.jpg

whenever i see a poster on a bus stop for that dumb fantastic beasts film i keep reading it as "the crimes of Greenwald"

lol

same

Glenn do you think you’re ever bothered by trivial excesses

— Quinoa🖕Appropriator (@MattAlwaysWrong) December 5, 2018

dril fucking sub tweeted Glenn Greenwald

I am fucking cackling pic.twitter.com/Zu0eTcNbc8

— noah (@scahillovic) December 19, 2018

lol that tweet is incomprehensible to me

need a vox explainer

honestly you're better off in the dark

Glenn, no! pic.twitter.com/VKFSgvXpTi

— jared's evidence-based email acct (@eliot_woodrich) December 20, 2018

This is, I think it's safe to say, a new low

Glenn Greenwald went on Laura Ingraham's Fox News show last night to run interference for Trump-loving kids who harassed a Native American elder pic.twitter.com/i7W1ersK3O

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 22, 2019

I have not followed this or other viral distractions, but

Twitter's design empowers those who lie to smear others, because only accusations, not proof, are required. It's very tiring to point it out, but you can't allow people with big platforms to do it. Just compare what Matt Bors claimed I said on Fox last night to what I really said pic.twitter.com/MuaaIDu9oK

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 22, 2019

any "leftist" who spends their time going on Tucker or Ingraham and thinking they're getting points on the board -- or really doing anything other than legitimizing these platforms while yelling into the void-- is either an idiot or a fucking asshole.

real tired of this guy's shtick.

Also, the full video is quite clear about what happens. The indigenous man walked into the shout-down between the kids and the Black Israelites, then the kids mock him.

'In this case the media was incredibly reckless' - Greenwald to Ingraham.

Oh, but he is criticizing 'both sides'! He is both saying that liberal media is bad, and that fascist rhetoric is bad, so y'know, he is just finding the sensible middle ground.

I think it's pretty hard to claim that greenwald is a leftist of any sort at this point

idk i think it's safe to say he's still an anti-imperialist? or at least a west-skeptic / US-critic which is for sure a leftist position even it's often incoherent.

Just an anti-imperialist spending his USA wealth to presumably live in a guarded compound in Brazil

at this point his knee jerk desire to defend the trump admin seems to outweigh the knee jerk desire to criticize the US govt. the closest thing to a coherent political view he has is 'pwn the libs', which maybe just makes him a republican by its current definition.

Is Morbz’ favorite libertarian Fox commentator a leftist?

He is not an anti-imperialist, he would have a much tougher stance on Russia if that was the case. And I don't think being west-skeptic / US-critic is necessarily a leftist stance at this point, the whole point of Trumps campaign was that the west has lost it's way.

Frederik is the Only Leftist