j0rd, meet me in DC and we can have lunch with him :)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 11:26 (five years ago) link
also this is my last post in this thread, it's been cancer
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link
lol ok doc
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:06 (five years ago) link
greil marcus weighs in:
I think there are strong reasons to believe that Glenn Greenwald, like Edward Snowden, is either a Russian agent or an agent of influence—someone who believes he or she is operating independently but for various reasons, which could involve apparently independent financing or patronage, access to privileged information, facilitation through cut outs, and so on, is in fact promoting stories, arguments, individuals, and policies his or her controllers want promoted. The argument that there is no difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump is, from either a right or left perspective, lunacy—unless you believe there is no difference between the US and Russia, which is to say that you believe that democracy, as practiced in the US and much of the West, is a hoax, and that politics is only a point-by-point choice between autocracies and kleptocracies.When I read Greenwald in Salon, I thought he merely demonstrated textbook symptoms of paranoia, in particular over-sourcing every assertion, argument, statement of apparent fact, as if to say I KNOW YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME BUT LOOK AT THIS THE PROOF IS HERE YOU CAN’T DENY IT! I think that’s still an essential part of his political personality, but I think now there’s far more going on.
When I read Greenwald in Salon, I thought he merely demonstrated textbook symptoms of paranoia, in particular over-sourcing every assertion, argument, statement of apparent fact, as if to say I KNOW YOU DON’T BELIEVE ME BUT LOOK AT THIS THE PROOF IS HERE YOU CAN’T DENY IT! I think that’s still an essential part of his political personality, but I think now there’s far more going on.
https://greilmarcus.net/ask-greil-2/
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
like Edward Snowden
stopped reading
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:38 (five years ago) link
Welcome back!
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 September 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link
I thought he merely demonstrated textbook symptoms of paranoia, in particular over-sourcing every assertion
citations are for paranoids, blithe accusations of treason in unsupported subclauses are for rock critics
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 7 September 2018 18:47 (five years ago) link
Tennis is really having a bad influence on him. He is anti-Serena as well, it seems.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 16 September 2018 10:09 (five years ago) link
Yeah he tweeted out some statistics showing that male tennis players have been more frequently penalized for Serena's transgressions than female players have. Then Nate Silver tweeted back that he was not taking into account the rate at which each sex is penalized - in other words maybe male players transgress far more often, which results in them being penalized more.
― Josefa, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:34 (five years ago) link
male tennis players have been more frequently penalized for Serena's transgressions than female players haveThis is an...interesting argument (But probably a typo in there)
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:41 (five years ago) link
Or wait, you probably just mean penalized for doing things similar to whatever Serena did, sorry
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link
Exactly. Sorry my bad
― Josefa, Sunday, 16 September 2018 14:44 (five years ago) link
Ford’s own words regarding Feinstein’s decision deliberately ignored by Glenn so he can both sides the Dems with what the GOP did w Garland. Cool cool cool. Not at all an irredeemable piece of shit.
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 28 September 2018 15:28 (five years ago) link
That must be maddening, watching expats support a fascist when they have no skin in the game. pic.twitter.com/S05bHbCpDB— All Hallow’s Eve Not All Hallow’s Steve (@agraybee) October 8, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 8 October 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link
lollll
― shwarmaduke (symsymsym), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:26 (five years ago) link
Glenn's latest on Brazil where naturally he blames 'the establishment" more than Bolsonaro or those who support Bolsonaro's extremist views
To be sure – as is true of Trump, Brexit, and the rise of right-wing extremism throughout Europe – some substantial minority of Bolsonaro voters are motivated by classic bigotry, racism, anti-LGBT animus, resentment toward the indigenous population, and just a general tribal anger that seeks scapegoats for their plight. But many, probably most, are none of those things.
Many, instead, are motivated by legitimate grievances toward an establishment ruling class that has failed them on all levels, that expresses indifference if not outright contempt for their suffering and loss of hope, that they blame, often with good reason, for enacting policies that have destroyed their futures while refusing to accept any responsibility for it. And once that framework is adopted, any perceived enemy of that ruling class becomes their friend, or at least someone whose vows of destruction become more appealing than vows to preserve the system they justifiably despise (the reality is that Bolsonaro (like Trump), with his Chicago-trained neoliberal economic guru, will serve the economic interests of the establishment with great devotion at the expense of his working-class voters, but the perception of his anti-establishment animus is what matters).
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/08/brazils-bolsonaro-led-far-right-wins-a-victory-far-more-sweeping-and-dangerous-than-anyone-predicted-its-lessons-are-global/
― curmudgeon, Monday, 8 October 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
that All Hallow's idiot is in Chappaqua, hmmmmmm
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link
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― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link
Christ, u guys love these schoolyard callouts huh? *depantses Brad*
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:43 (five years ago) link
i post that that shit all the time, it's part of my fuckin routine, just like Nerdstrom's is being a paid DNC asshole
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:44 (five years ago) link
i would suggest the rest of you actually quit the thread, tho
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link
Are you going to defend him or
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 8 October 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link
excerpt above simply describes fascism; idk how else yall think it works unless it's just "people are hateful bigots and nothing can be done"
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 8 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
Shot shot chaser chaser etc etc pic.twitter.com/1tYEyJ0mR0— Regina 🌊💪 (@regwag2003) October 8, 2018
Man if this keeps up he's going to have to move to a walled mansion in a *third* country— asterix.asterix (@hashallthehash) October 8, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 8 October 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link
This thread is one of the saddest things ever:
Do you guys want to see the most sad, petty & online man on this awful website? Yesterday @CharlesPPierce rt'ed the great (& prescient) parody account, @GlemGreenwald. So fast forward to this morning, when "someone", out of the blue, creates a Charlies Pierce parody account pic.twitter.com/rGVniiaYTn— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) November 24, 2018
― Frederik B, Sunday, 25 November 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link
yeah glenn's attempt at parody was pretty sad
― k3vin k., Sunday, 25 November 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link
― grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 25 November 2018 20:00 (five years ago) link
Spoke too soon — now he's paying to promote his own tweets... that contain screenshots of... his own tweets. pic.twitter.com/01JUwSneks— Charles Davis (@charliearchy) November 25, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link
glennception
― iatee, Sunday, 25 November 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtgtXF0VAAAriC5.jpg
― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link
whenever i see a poster on a bus stop for that dumb fantastic beasts film i keep reading it as "the crimes of Greenwald"
― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 3 December 2018 18:33 (five years ago) link
lol
― Frederik B, Monday, 3 December 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
same
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 4 December 2018 05:30 (five years ago) link
Glenn do you think you’re ever bothered by trivial excesses— Quinoa🖕Appropriator (@MattAlwaysWrong) December 5, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link
dril fucking sub tweeted Glenn GreenwaldI am fucking cackling pic.twitter.com/Zu0eTcNbc8— noah (@scahillovic) December 19, 2018
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 December 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link
lol that tweet is incomprehensible to me
need a vox explainer
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:35 (five years ago) link
honestly you're better off in the dark
― resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 20 December 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link
Glenn, no! pic.twitter.com/VKFSgvXpTi— jared's evidence-based email acct (@eliot_woodrich) December 20, 2018
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, 21 December 2018 03:51 (five years ago) link
This is, I think it's safe to say, a new low
Glenn Greenwald went on Laura Ingraham's Fox News show last night to run interference for Trump-loving kids who harassed a Native American elder pic.twitter.com/i7W1ersK3O— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 22, 2019
― resident hack (Simon H.), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:25 (five years ago) link
I have not followed this or other viral distractions, but
Twitter's design empowers those who lie to smear others, because only accusations, not proof, are required. It's very tiring to point it out, but you can't allow people with big platforms to do it. Just compare what Matt Bors claimed I said on Fox last night to what I really said pic.twitter.com/MuaaIDu9oK— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 22, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:32 (five years ago) link
any "leftist" who spends their time going on Tucker or Ingraham and thinking they're getting points on the board -- or really doing anything other than legitimizing these platforms while yelling into the void-- is either an idiot or a fucking asshole.
real tired of this guy's shtick.
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:39 (five years ago) link
Also, the full video is quite clear about what happens. The indigenous man walked into the shout-down between the kids and the Black Israelites, then the kids mock him.
― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:43 (five years ago) link
'In this case the media was incredibly reckless' - Greenwald to Ingraham.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:45 (five years ago) link
Oh, but he is criticizing 'both sides'! He is both saying that liberal media is bad, and that fascist rhetoric is bad, so y'know, he is just finding the sensible middle ground.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:46 (five years ago) link
I think it's pretty hard to claim that greenwald is a leftist of any sort at this point
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:47 (five years ago) link
idk i think it's safe to say he's still an anti-imperialist? or at least a west-skeptic / US-critic which is for sure a leftist position even it's often incoherent.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:48 (five years ago) link
Just an anti-imperialist spending his USA wealth to presumably live in a guarded compound in Brazil
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
at this point his knee jerk desire to defend the trump admin seems to outweigh the knee jerk desire to criticize the US govt. the closest thing to a coherent political view he has is 'pwn the libs', which maybe just makes him a republican by its current definition.
― iatee, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:52 (five years ago) link
Is Morbz’ favorite libertarian Fox commentator a leftist?
― by the light of the burning Citroën, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:53 (five years ago) link
He is not an anti-imperialist, he would have a much tougher stance on Russia if that was the case. And I don't think being west-skeptic / US-critic is necessarily a leftist stance at this point, the whole point of Trumps campaign was that the west has lost it's way.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 January 2019 15:54 (five years ago) link