Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

Based on what I've seen from critics, his reviews are going to be markedly different.

i doubt he'll get the same "wise teller of truths" platform he received from every late night talk show though, i do suspect a large part of his previous world is going to remain closed off to him.

I have a feeling there's a ton of men who think MeToo went "too far" and what Louis did "y'know, wasn't really that bad" and would be eager to show support.

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:41 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is a definitely a thing. "weinstein is a serial rapist, louis just masturbated in front of a few people, what's the big deal?"

on one hand, being a sex creep is bad but on the other hand i really want to hear this middle aged white guy's takes on parades and racism

The infuriating thing is that none of the people angling for a comeback has done anything to deserve it? They've just gone away for a while and hoped that things would die down. They all hurt people but none have tried to help. Louis even seemed to have realized years back that what he did was wrong - there was a story that he'd tried and phone people to say he was sorry years back - yet he never did anything to make up for it. He hurt careers, hurt peoples lives, but he just never ever thought that he should do something good for people in exchange.

he probably just got bored sleeping on his giant piles of money

He's a...compulsive guy

Probably couldn't help himself

i suspect CK will work in some self-flagellating material, and like most material of that kind it will wind up being very self-serving, like it's done to merely add to the complex legend of the man telling the tales. the speaker of harsh truths now turns on himself, whoa.

yeah Louis SUCKS for doing that hypothetical routine

self-flagellating, you say?

his netflix special was pretty good

For all the handwringing about the stifling atmosphere for comedians, I've been waiting for someone to do an exhaustive routine on Louie's downfall but haven't seen any pop up. Are there any? Is it still career suicide to do that? Is Louie the only one allowed to do it?

speaking of comebacks...michael richards never really had one after he flipped out on stage, did he?

Richards didn't have much of a career at the time iirc

i suspect CK will work in some self-flagellating material, and like most material of that kind it will wind up being very self-serving, like it's done to merely add to the complex legend of the man telling the tales. the speaker of harsh truths now turns on himself, whoa.

― omar little, Tuesday, August 28, 2018 1:05 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean, he'll kind of have to. I can't imagine him doing show after show and just completely not addressing the situation. at the very least someone somewhere would undoubtedly heckle him about it. this would most likely become a recurring thing.

xp. he's only appeared in that season of curb and in the kirstie alley sitcom kirstie since that incident but he hadn't had a tv or movie credit since the michael richards show in 2000 before then

This is a lot of hypothetical things because a man did 15 minutes of comedy to like 120 people

How very un-ILX.

This is a lot of hypothetical things because a man did 15 minutes of comedy to like 120 people

― 5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:23 PM (seventeen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol classic whiney "i'm not necessarily DEFENDING CK but let me assure everyone you are all idiots"

I'm just saying its probably pretty dumb to imagine what his routines could/should/would be for shows that aren't booked

what is your opinion on him attempting a comeback?

yeah louis was just straight up the biggest comedian in the world

lol no

https://ewn.co.za/2017/07/28/jerry-seinfeld-tops-highest-paid-comedians-list

#3 though.

what is your opinion on him attempting a comeback?

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 28, 2018 1:47 PM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'm not a woman so no one needs to hear my opinion on this

there's plenty of your opinion on this itt

this is a good one
Louie (Louis C.K.'s show on FX)

#3 though.

Louis would do a couple of nights at 3-6,000 seat theatres in the US, and could manage 2-3000 seat theatres in capital cities in England and Australia.

Russell Peters plays 15-20k arenas in English-speaking countries, and tours the actual world.

Michael McIntyre currently has SEVEN nights onsale at a 20k arena in London in October, and another three in a 12k arena the next month in the same city.

Louis was a very well-known American comedian! But the world is not his mailing list, and there are a lot of normies out there.

yeah louis ck plays arenas in the states and canada (also in the UK, where he has played, for example, the 02 Arena)

the rule for louis' comeback, as should be the rule in all cases, is that it's perfectly fine to do it AFTER he personally ensures that the people he affected have their careers back. in louis' case that might even be possible. but if it's not possible, for reasons such as one's pustularity extending for decades (weinstein, etc.) such that one's victims are now too old or too dead, then you don't get a comeback. after all, they didn't

he should be subjected to having to personally watch men more powerful than him masturbate in his presence imo

To me the best outcome would be for protesters to repeatedly interrupt his shows

not mutually exclusive!

these outcomes are nice or schadenfreude or whatever but they don't do shit for the women involved

tbf I don't think you can undo that kind of trauma

the trauma cannot be undone, but the career repercussions can

I just think he'll sell out every show he books in this hellworld, I guess. :/

Shakey OTM in last three posts

Louis has played arenas, but they weren't where most of his dates took place over the last (say) 15 years, and he wasn't playing ten nights in a row. saying he was bigger than Kevin Hart or Michael McIntyre is an absolute non-starter.

ok fair enough, still like top 5 or what have we if we're talking about box office, and the one who commanded most column inches etc.

I haven't searched, but there must be interviews with people who went to Cosby's last tour or two. I'm assuming they would be oblivious, or assume he's innocent, or just have a lack of judgement toward someone who makes them laugh really hard. Kind of the James Brown / R. Kelly rationale (which I'm not defending) of not wanting to abandon something that really works for you, and somehow being able to dissociate the performance from the violence.

there's also the depressing possibility that enough people don't give a shit about this kind of thing and for a smaller (god I hope) percentage it makes them like the person better

apparently Cosby dates were relatively sparsely attended given the venues, and largely by seniors who really don't keep up on the news. he's been for old ppl since he was middle-aged.


that Forbes article seems to only be about US comedians, and there's no sourcing on their $52 million estimate for CK. He's said he was out of liquidity after spending 2 million on the first four episodes of Horace & Pete, and had to borrow to continue production.

(he also said it was no big deal, that he'd be able to pay back the loan on live dates, but unless he's got a REALLY bad alimony set-up, $52 million income should have left him with more than 2 million cash-on-hand. even John Cleese only had to pay a million a year.)

how many wives did that cover?

just the last one

he did consecutive live tours billed as "A Ludicrous Evening with John Cleese ... or How to Finance Your Divorce" and "The Alimony Tour" for several years

saying he was bigger than Kevin Hart or Michael McIntyre is an absolute non-starter.

Michael McIntyre is a complete nobody here. Peters is bigger, but nowhere near Hart's level. Those guys play three-thousand seaters here.

I only wish he was a complete nobody here.

yes, Michael McIntyre is a nobody everywhere but in the UK. the UK is still part of "the world", and he's ludicrously huge there.

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the trauma cannot be undone, but the career repercussions can

Curious what this would actually look like? It seems like the only way for him to directly help their careers would be to be involved somehow, which obv would not work (like, I don't think any of his victims would want to go on tour with him). Finance a special or something?

we regret to report that it turns out McIntyre can now also sell out arenas in South Africa and Australia

/milkshake duck

(literally never heard of McIntyre until this thread btw)

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