FP: Should 31 be the new 51 y/n

mods can do all and everything they could before fp came in about a decade ago, and sometimes they will step in with deletions or a tempban but tbh ive not seen the likes in some time

this is completely bizarre to me, like going to the doctor and being told "you sprained your wrist but we're not going to do anything about it, come back when you have heart failure or something"

well you seem to be talking about a specific instance where you didn't like a conversation that was happening

tbh mods shouldn't react to that imo

i think an over-modded board would be really bad and would have a chilling effect

They don't always know what's happening in every thread immediately either.

Which is why they ask for posts in MRF

Threads get locked under egregious circumstances. I don't think we are anywhere near that rn.

[I can easily see a situation where people decide to flag someone just because they personally don't like them.

The idea behind the 51 was precisely so that a small clique couldn't control who was banned, due to personal beefs or bullying. It was meant to require a broad sample of ilx sentiment that a poster had crossed lines into unacceptable territory. It isn't perfect, but it does tend to work as designed.

The suggestion to reduce the number to 31 was valid enough for discussion and become appropriate as numbers of ilxors dwindle. We should probably poll it periodically, maybe annually.

As for the change from "suggest ban" to "flag post", I don't recall the change giving rise to any particular delight, but rather a lot of confusion, followed by a moderate amount of ridicule when it became obvious that nothing had changed but the nomenclature.

i think an over-modded board would be really bad and would have a chilling effect

as opposed to the chilling effect of people who are put off by the lack of moderation

like

theres fuck all happens around here that mods need to react to

and a case being made that even with this total lack of controversial or objectionable content, the mods should somehow be more active..

i dunno. seems like we're back to a conversation about what ilx is

which leads to a conversation about what it uses to be

and nowadays thats a load of posters who arent rly very good ilxors (inc yrs truly) taking lazy halfremembered potshots about very good former ilxors because ilx used to be great and mean and now its neither

A couple posters were banned because of a Swans beef that devolved into some “interesting” opinions on women, though the more egregious one was also pretty much stalking an ILXor across board over another weird issue.

That was a pretty long time ago, at least a year maybe?

I don't understand why "great" has to be synonymous with "mean." I deal with enough meanness in my day-to-day life and I really don't need any more of it

you have turned "and" into "synonymous" and that is not an innocent manoeuvre imo

it seemed to be implied

if it wasn't implied I apologize but it very much seemed to be and it isn't the first time I've seen a "this board used to be better when people weren't so nice" type sentiment

it wasnt!

now, thats not to say it wasnt more to my personal taste

and tbh i think losing one has affected the other

but no i dont think it was synonymous for the purposes of my point

deems likes the kind of entertainment supplied by meanness, when it is inventive meanness. old-ilx was often mean in inventive and colorful style. it suited his tastes better than present day ilx suits him. but ilx persists and he still arrives every day to punch in.

all I can say to that is this kind of personal taste completely baffles me and I'm completely incapable of understanding the worldview of someone who wants that

anyways

fp

it works for what its meant to do

but i dont know if mods would ever have locked that thread today at amy stage of ilx

and if they had done, it would have caused ructions

funny that we flag drunk posts for moderation

xxp

im not here to defend it tbh

and park in the driveway

there's also a complicated relationship between civility and quality of posts. it's *possible* that if nobody is allowed to call anybody else a numbskull then the numbskull population might run out of control

(given that we all have numbskullery within us)

To prevent numbskullery you just need to educate and lead by example and lead a blameless life like I do

i think Jesus is a historical example of how that attitude just attracts numbskulls tbh

whereas a lot of Zen masters seem to have inculcated wisdom in their apprentices by judicious application of a big stick

jesus crucified atop golgotha or numbskull mountain

"forgive them Father, for they are numbskulls"

anyway

mods

51 is too high we used to have 40 good posters now we have 4 the new number should therefore be 5

Lol

That would be a bloodbath

the bark would fly

but not in the organized, purposeful way that your name implies

Wonder how many people are on 5 or more at any given time

I think i have historically had at least five whenever i checked in

you probably know where that ended up. good to have you back.

I wasn’t banned

I self-banned for the second time after making quite the scene

i know. was talking about copying your post to the out of context thread.

Ah

I suspect I am at least halfway to 51 by this point

I doubt you’re at 10

I suspect most people reserve fps for extremely offensive posts, don't recall anyone getting banned for a bit of bickering

xp yeah you have to actively try pretty hard to get close to 30 iirc

I mean I definitely didn’t until now, I’ve flagged a lot of posts under the impression I was just flagging a post for review and potential deletion, not voting for a ban. it’s what the button says, after all

Some people are promiscuous with them but getting to 51 is still a feat

tbf 26 is not at 10. but I doubt katherine has any fps.

don't know Trϵϵship's history but really like their posts. katherine's too. so please don't stop posting, either of you

I'm not promiscuous I'm generous

Any??

Xp