Aretha Franklin -- RIP

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Her version of Stevie's "Until You Come Back To Me" is heavenly.

― I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, August 16, 2018 3:10 PM (twenty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seconded

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:38 (five years ago) link

I saw her at Radio City circa 2006. She mostly eschewed her catalog of hits and instead sang some unfamiliar R&B, some gospel, and a bit of opera. I felt it was too short, it seemed about 45 minutes. Maybe her voice was getting worn by that point. I remember her being quite witty between songs, and playing some piano. Brought her son out to do a solo rap number.

Josefa, Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:42 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9V1r2RV_V8

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

I can go on all day about her piano abilities, the least praised element in her artistry.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:43 (five years ago) link

OTM. On all her records -- but especially on Amazing Grace -- her playing is never less than brilliant.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

I was a late arrival to her '70s material, but hoo boy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tMFqa_K7bg

Melted Belts, Priced To Move (Old Lunch), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:55 (five years ago) link

the greatest

rip

liberally social (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

THat is a good oen that doesn't get enough airplay

Rabbit Control (Latham Green), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

I listen to my favorite of her self-written songs at least once a week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXQBRHhfwo4

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

wondering if there's a better album than young, gifted and black. really not sure

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 14:59 (five years ago) link

Spirit in the Dark!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:00 (five years ago) link

maybe...

lowercase (eric), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

That Kennedy Centre clip upthread is majestic.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

Aretha + Luther = perfection.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsnQXghCpFg

mike t-diva, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

not in her wheelhouse, but a gutsy performance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjTXRo-rxGA

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

aw man, rip aretha

just a phenomenal, once-off talent

ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:19 (five years ago) link

RIP

Ross, Thursday, 16 August 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

I can go on all day about her piano abilities, the least praised element in her artistry.

― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:43 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Very OTM, she was so passionate and inventive, and it takes a special level of skill to sing like she does while playing such complex parts

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:13 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/3HsOF9WKIwo

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Part of the legend is that when she went from Columbia to Atlantic Records they realized she sang better whilst playing piano

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

wondering if there's a better album than young, gifted and black. really not sure

it's perfect

that expanded Live At The Fillmore from a few years back, with Mixed Up Girl and the epic 20 minute Spirit In The Dark w/Ray is essential.

Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:16 (five years ago) link

Young, Gifted, & Black is my favorite as well, Side A is about as perfect as music gets.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 August 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

I was curious if she had recorded "Lift Every Voice" and found this video gem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QK4p22LHtw

Liquid Plejades, Thursday, 16 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

RIP :(

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

I picked 10 deep cuts for Stereogum:

https://www.stereogum.com/2010538/aretha-franklin-best-deep-cuts/franchises/list/

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

Thanks, Phil, for writing about "The Woman" and "Pullin'," which I almost wrote about.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:41 (five years ago) link

There’s quite a few on Alfred’s list I am unfamiliar with and Phil’s list is totally new to me. Thanks, guys.

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:45 (five years ago) link

Phil’s list is totally new to me

would love to hear "pullin'" for the first time again, congrats

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 16 August 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

Holy shit I didn't know until now that 'I Say A Little Prayer' was originally a b-side. That's outrageous.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Oh “Pullin’” is on Spirit in the Dark? Then I have heard it, just been a few decades is all

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

Her piano is integral to "Pullin'" -- it's pullin'!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

Did Bill Withers rip that off for "Harlem"?

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

RIP i wish i had more to add other than she was great

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

A throwaway but I love this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2pdSQlm0GA

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 August 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

I am so sad that she’s gone but idk what to say other than that I am sad ;_;

i have had (You Make Me Feel) Like A Natural Woman in my head all day

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

it's quite possible, though I don't remember, that i might've first seen her on TV singing at MLK's funeral.

“Black people will be free... You got to disturb the peace when you can’t get no peace.”

-Aretha Franklin pic.twitter.com/5C7zDeVVe9

— Advancement Project (@adv_project) August 16, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

Choice singles for me are “i can’t wait to see my baby’s face” and “one step ahead”. They’re not her most iconic and not a great showcase of how powerful her voice could get but they’re very elegant and sensuous in how easily she nails the performance.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that’s a good one

Blecch, where is thy Zing? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 16 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

i LOVE "One Step Ahead" thanks for reminding me to listen to it.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

I first hear it after hearing the sample on Miss Fat Booty!

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

Listening to Spirit in The Dark... as soon as “she started singing “Dont Play That Song” I bawled so hard right here at my desk at work

love u lady

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

Rest In Peace Glorious Sister

nicky lo-fi, Thursday, 16 August 2018 22:39 (five years ago) link

Shifting things around so have severql hard drives disconnected but did find the one with a 1971 Montreux live set on . So did get to listen to her today.
She did some great stuff. RIP.

Stevolende, Thursday, 16 August 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

in the Kennedy Center Honors video that Alfred posted i love the spin she puts on the opening line of the song. Truly incredible to hear a voice like that at 70. I've watched that about twenty times today and it's overwhelming every single time.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

someone posted some inane interview on fb today and the interviewer asks her what song of hers she thought Adele could cover and she said something like "hopefully one I have the publishing rights to" lol

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Friday, 17 August 2018 00:09 (five years ago) link

Aretha’s Mom died in 1952 of a heart attack at age 34.

curmudgeon, Monday, 22 April 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

yeah, i was gonna say i didn't recall any such ID.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 April 2019 18:02 (four years ago) link

My error; thought I heard her introduced. It was the woman with the white streak in her hair.

Jazzbo, Monday, 22 April 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

I liked it and wished the men would shut the fuck up, especially the bisexual queen Cleveland.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 April 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link

I could have done without shots of Pollack and his film crew as well

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 April 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

If you cut it down to just the singing, it's a 50-minute film. No profit there. A feature needs to show behind-the-scenes.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 April 2019 12:09 (four years ago) link

I wish, like the Jackson film, we had had contextual interviews. A different film, of course.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 29 April 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

Yes. Interviews would have been nice. Seeing the seemingly all white guy film crew bugged me more than seeing Rev Franklin and Rev Cleveland, as the latter were part of her life ( as annoying as they were). I guess the Revs did take up more onscreen time.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 April 2019 23:39 (four years ago) link

This was great! Can't imagine how or why this film would not feature Cleveland as prominently as it did...? It's his church, his choir, his ministry, his congregation. It seemed evident she savored bing back in church and not "on stage."

I also appreciated that we saw the film crew, saw the extent to which their presence presented a hurdle to clear in terms of maintaining a worship-first vibe.

I thought C.L. taking care to dry her face was a really tender and moving moment.

My only gripe—along the same lines—was that the mix (at least where I saw it) didn't really sound like the room. I would have preferred a really full ambient recording of the space.

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link

yeah Cleveland was certainly important to the show (and mentored her in her youth, right?) but apparently Aretha herself, per the NYT feature a week ago, that his and C L's screentime made her "wallpaper" in her own film; that's why she disliked it, in part.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

*Aretha herself felt that

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link

yeah their connection and comfort level was cool to see

I can see that a little bit w/r/t C.L., he was def soaking it up a little....as a preacher's kid I can attest that this unfortunately comes w/ the territory

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

He didn't hide his queerness either, which I would've liked the film to explain at least.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

not sure how the directorial conceit could have accommodated that, or to what end

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

I mean it was just stuff happening in a room

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:37 (four years ago) link

Well, the film is a mess -- it's barely a film, just shards -- held together by Aretha's stoicism, the music, and the frantic manner in which Cleveland channels his flamboyance into performance (professionally, I'll add).

I don't know. A film about these shows could have integrated what we know about Cleveland in voice-over, interviews, titles, something; it's just too damn fraught, in retrospect. And there's rumors about Aretha's own bisexuality too.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link

I had problems with the MJ documentary not contexualizing events too.

Plus, how many white people know Clara Ward -- also bisexual!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

yeah I guess a different approach that would have allowed for that (and eased the disjointedness) would be something more like a film-about-an-attempted-film

or a film about that gospel milieu, the people involved, her upbringing

but those performances are amazing, I had to duck out and ask to have it turned up

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

Her performance obviously makes the movie.

Re, other stuff, Was just reading Internet allegations stuff about Rev Franklin having been involved with Clara Ward for a long time, and that having broken up the marriage between Rev CL Franklin & Aretha’s Mom decades before this gig

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link

church is a place to get busy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link

My favorite shot was the one where Aretha first sits down at the piano on the first night, just sitting there waiting for Cleveland to finish his introduction, with a blank expression on her face that you're tempted to read some kind of feeling/thought into. You can only imagine what was going through her head at that moment.

Josefa, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link

^^^ yes

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 May 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDxzQJaA228

calstars, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:07 (one year ago) link

This is like my favorite song of all times

calstars, Monday, 1 August 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

I've really, really warmed to it.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

it’s def a fave of mine

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 1 August 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

eleven months pass...

That’s wild

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:10 (nine months ago) link

five months pass...

Just heard about this even though the upload's over a decade old:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdnj2gK68Y4

Two years before her breakthrough at Atlantic, and also that's Darlene Love in the middle of the trio of background singers! A slightly faster arrangement of the hit record by Betty Everett, but it's pretty awesome how much Aretha brings to the second half when she belts those notes. Even at 0:32, that tremor in her voice is amazing.

birdistheword, Monday, 18 December 2023 23:10 (four months ago) link

I feel very fortunate that I was able to take my whole family to what turned out to be her final concert.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 December 2023 23:16 (four months ago) link


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