Montreal!

Please don't come to Montreal. If you do, stay in a properly zoned hotel downtown. Please don't come to my local and ask for sangria by the glass or ask "do you have any sour beers." Don't go to Mutek, don't come near me, stay the fuck away from the Jean-Talon market or I'll fucking hit you.

― fields of salmon, Thursday, August 9, 2018 7:39 PM (two days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

uh

spent almost 2 months in mtl this summer and had the time of my life. best city i've ever been to or lived in hands down

i still like vancouver but i would give anything to move back, except for dropping out of my program lol

You are always welcome back!

Especially right before the elections to make sure nationalist identitarian can’t win!

thanks. i'll do my best to return :)

I thought about going for the aforementioned festival again but opted against it because, idk, I just need some unstructured time to do absolutely nothing and loaf away from town. How long's your roommate on vacay, Will? :)

― mh, Friday, August 10, 2018 3:45 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha i think until the end of august? idk he's been cagey about it (this is the thread where i complain about my roomie now apparently lol, v montreal)

Please continue to avoid Montreal during peak times. For booking your visits, consider November, a month in which your visit will be considered respectful, rather than simply being another piece of clutter in a world already dying because of plastic that can't break down in the ocean. Don't like dolphins? Got it.

Someone other than fields of salmon : what's the earliest in the year I can go to Montreal and it be pleasant out? Wikipedia seems to suggest June

The end of May is usually quite pleasant, though two years ago it snowed on May 6 so June makes sense as an absolutely safe bet.

yeah june is the safe bet

Thank you

Have you tried a sour beer? Have you trieeeed a soooooour beeeer? You should look for them. They're apparently really critical recently, so you should ask people who are working to earn university degrees that you already have or are earning about sour beers! Good luck!

Do you have any sour beers

I'm more a natural wine guy

Where to stay in Montreal if I probably want to be in mile end plateau little italy, dont really want to airbnb, dont have high standards?

https://casadelpopolo.com/pensione-popolo/
https://hotelcastleruins.com/
there's also an apartment owned by/above the restaurant La Khaima (on airbnb i think) that seems ok

also heard good things about Chez Maggie Maguire, a b and b that doesn't have a website (though i wonder if it's closed?)

there’s a p nice auberge on carré st louis

just get an airbnb in milend tho

Thanks for the suggestions

i believe there are a few (earth, not air) bnbs on st hubert btwn maisonneuve and ontario, which are supposed to be quite nice, it's south of plateau and mile end and etc, but also a short walk to the metro

I will be monitoring all of your IP addresses. If any of you use keywords that indicate you might come north of the tracks I will dispatch a bunch of angry bees and wasps I have been hiding in a tent-like structure in my back garden.

you want people to avoid coming to your city with all of the fervor of someone who has lived here for approximately 4 years. it is impressive

can't believe people are now building their own artisan-quality tent-like structures instead of just buying tents

googling "north of the tracks" "montreal", looking for airbnbs in villeray

thinking about sour beers

the best part is that fields of salmon posts like an angry old man and we’re youth wandering around doing youthful distasteful things and he’s like a year older than me at most

Fields, which part of Montreal you from?

I have never heard anyone refering to any place as ‘north of the train tracks’ in my 20 years here. Which train tracks? There are 3 tracks that go east-west across the island.

Maybe this whole time Fields was a senior living in VMR who sure hates the sight of youngsters hanging around Canora station.

I assume he's referring to Mile Ex.

xp

"do you have any sour beers" is usually my first question on entering any soi-disant craft beer pub. i won't come to montreal

Ask if they have 'de la bière sûre' and fields of salmon will have no choice but to relent.

having read his posts itt i'm genuinely concerned fields of salmon might be a member of gy!be

I doubt a member of gy!be would live in the plateau during the peak horribleness years.

going to be wandering progressively north on the plateau next week hollering about sour beers fyi

i had a sour beer when i was in montreal.

doing the thing i do where i think about moving to montreal after visiting it but then definitely not doing that

relatable

you both live in p terrible cities, should probably do it imho

Which sour beer, Jim?

was at dieu du ciel, was a wheat, sour cherry type deal iirc.

xp. flopson you were liking vancouver a year ago lol

Ha dope! Dieu du Ciel is still undefeated after all these years imo.

i'm back to liking it again actually. but i feel like i'm always one friendship/relationship away from the threshold of being unbearably lonely and socially alienated. it's one of the worst places imaginable to be depressed in

other than nature and east asian restaurants (which admittedly i place a large weight on) vancouver is pretty terrible on the merits. people are boring and dumb (ON AVERAGE... but east coasters' stereotype of west coast is not entirely inaccurate imho), have bad fashion sense, not outgoing at all, very little communal public social life, the music scenes are mostly collections of isolated groups of friends with 9-to-5s, cool underground parties instantly get discovered by irish and australian bros on work visas, no good grocery stores, no good museums or galleries, super weird layout where the few good neighbourhoods are really far apart, zoning is way too sparse and residential, bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?), housing crisis that no one is doing anything to fix and even many leftists/progressive blame on 'chinese foreign money' or 'developers'

if i weren't doing my phd here i wouldn't stay. having said that, it's a lovely place to do a phd in; a cozy, small, quiet city that's not too full of distraction. ubc and my department especially are fantastic. and i actually get the appeal for a glaswegian bc my great-grandfather moved here from there (after getting destroyed by winters in montreal and winnipeg) in like the 1910s or whatever because he liked the weather

I'm a big fan of Station Ho.st.

bizarre pervasive local ideology that's a mix of dumb mystical bullshit like astrology and these confusing rhetorical references to indigenous politics (everyone here loves to preempt everything they say with 'i recognize that i am a white-supremacist genocidal colonizer') that have no actual political substance and are more like a new-age self-help thing(?)

It’s the same in the anglo community in Petite Patrie/Mile End/Parc Ex/PSC/St Henri too, fwiw.

One of the many reasons I struggle in 100% anglo settings tbh.

xp i mean that ideology transcends space but it's nowhere near as bad in mtl as in vancouver

the mtl music scene is more "pc" perhaps but also has way more queer and poc people, and also way better bands and parties. the vancouver music scene is either unpolitical weird bougie shit like house djs pairing up with overpriced tapas restaurants to cater a 30$ party that sells out in advance, or like a weird high school dynamics version of pc/call-out culture, like this one person who runs a popular underground venue space banned their ex from the venue (and his whole band had to leave their jamspace!) bc he started seeing someone else a couple months after they broke up

Yeah, I trust it is more pervasive in Vancouver, in Montreal you can still have many english speaking friends who don't subscribe to these ideologies.