premiere at Toronto fest, it seems
https://www.tiff.net/tiff/halloween/
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
Oh cool!
― grandaddy of all liars (Ross), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
like if Terrence Malick decided to do a remake of Beverly Hills Cop
The internal monologues...
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Terence malick would focus on leaves a lot and kill anything interesting about Beverly Hills cop
― grandaddy of all liars (Ross), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link
Walking through Bijan
This mohair...This silk...Who made it?What goes in the sleeves?The pocket?The cut?Of a man?A cop?
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link
Lol
― grandaddy of all liars (Ross), Friday, 10 August 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
this also reminds me that there was an episode of Love on netflix where they wound up at the house of the guy who originally played Mike Meyers. One of the funnier episodes.
― akm, Friday, 10 August 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link
discussion of Halloween Grandma
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/why-halloween-left-some-viewers-disappointed-credits-rolled-1154053
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 October 2018 21:06 (five years ago) link
this is getting panned by everyone I trust
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 04:21 (five years ago) link
Seriously. I was tempted at first, but when I think AVClub guy said this is basically H20 redux but not as good I was all, eh. And everyone seems to hate the way the meta comedy undercuts the horror.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
$76 million Pavlovian weekend
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:07 (five years ago) link
this definitely was underwhelming. it started well tho
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link
Is that your review of the entire Halloween series?
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:12 (five years ago) link
hah yes!
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:16 (five years ago) link
I do agree this was better than all the sequels tho but it didn't exactly have a high bar to clear
it should have been called "Halloween: Competence"
I feel that my expectations are tempered/low enough re: the Halloween franchise that I might find something to enjoy in this.
― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:19 (five years ago) link
there are many things to enjoy in it!
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link
I was pretty underwhelmed as well. There isn't really any meta comedy though? Maybe one or two quips? Not interested in a debate of what constitutes meta comedy btw.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:24 (five years ago) link
the cops in the car having a banal convo was one example
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:28 (five years ago) link
Plus the thing where every time a character says 'Halloween' they then turn to the camera and arch their eyebrows and go 'Eh? Eh? Get it?'
― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:29 (five years ago) link
it wasn't winky winky tho definitely not one of those movies thankfully
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link
Almost every review I've read, even the positive ones, mention lots of self aware comments characters make. A la "a lot of people say she's his sister, but that's just a stupid urban legend" or stuff like that.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 October 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link
that's more them playing w/ the lore I think, kind of their way of walking back Halloween 2, which first broke that twist
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:03 (five years ago) link
I had a great time at this, just lots of good choices in the storytelling and being aware of the tropes but not turning that awareness into a joke. Instead, it's more of a technical challenge of how to do scenes that audiences have seen a million times before and respecting the scare while keeping them fresh.
No spoilers here, but the kid who is babysat is a fantastic actor. The first scene where Myers walks alongside a house and under some rows of lights was just beautiful. A lot of the lighting throughout was good to take in on a big screen.
Weirdly, thought this would make a good double feature with Lady Bird.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link
i am prolly gonna see it again to see if I enjoy it more only cos, slasher films are a thing I miss.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 14:13 (five years ago) link
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bullshit, this doesn't touch the original halloween ii
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link
or even the zombie halloween ii which i like a lot and has way more visual personality than this movie
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link
it was very fun still
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link
the editing was a fucking joke though
― coetzee.cx (wins), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link
yeah she called him the shape in the movie which weirded me out, this is less a sequel to halloween than a sequel to a bunch of ideas that seemed to flow out of halloween
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link
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I do like the original Halloween II, admittedly, I was thinking more of the crap like 4, 5, 6, H20, Resurrection, the Zombies....
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
the only movie in that list i wouldn't defend is resurrection and maybe the first zombie
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link
i like h20 wayyy more than this thing
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
Those comic-relief scenes (plus the kid/babysitter dialogue) sounded so much like Danny McBride to me, especially the banh mi sandwich banter.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
I'm eternally disappointed that they haven't figured out a way to wedge Shatner into one of these late-period pomo Halloweens yet.
― a butt, at which the shaft of ridicule is daily glanced (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
the new Dr Loomis d00d kinda sucked, he comes across like a guy who joined a Meisner acting class for a month, probably smugly walked around set all day 'in character', and had no idea how "community theatre" his performance came across.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link
H20 fails cos of Creed being used in the background
I hate Halloween 4-6, they r d00d00
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link
actually I liked H20 at the time, but on rewatch, it didn't age well. other than the ending, which was of course nullified by Resurrection
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link
4 has a great ending too but yeah I had a bad time with that whole trilogy3 also has a great ending speaking of films that are not good
― coetzee.cx (wins), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link
season of the witch is an awesome movie
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link
3 has one of the all-time great endings in moviedom.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link
the one thing the new movie does right is not even bother to question what is motivating Michael to kill. the Cult of Thorn was soooooo zzzzZZzzZZzzzzzzz
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link
weakened his character so much
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
i admire and understand that decision too
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:46 (five years ago) link
You admire and understand everything tho It’s why we call you “admire-all nelson”
― coetzee.cx (wins), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link
lol
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link
regardless of my misgivings i in particular loved the very cathartic final twenty minutes of this film
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link
The thing that has bothered me about 2018's Halloween.
The British female podcaster, at the gas station, says "I gotta do a number two" and heads to the ladies room.
She sits on the toilet. And at the time she has no idea Michael is coming. A decent amount of time passes.
Then he comes in and it's clear he's up to no good. She starts trying to escape under the bathroom stall, her pants are clearly up, and there's no sign she pulled them up as she rushed to duck under the stall with no hesitation.
Was she...
1) taking a dump with her pants ON
2) did she surreptitiously pull her pants up when we weren't looking?
3) was she secretly trying to get away from her husband
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:17 (two years ago) link
where’s the loo? … the bathroom?
i hate all of the funny dialogue in that movie
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:24 (two years ago) link
"I got peanut butter on my penis"
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:25 (two years ago) link
i also kind of hate the restaging of the classroom scene, at least until you see jlc through the window
i think the PREY BECOMES THE PREDATOR theme of that film is at least as dumb as the WE’RE THE MONSTERS NOW angry mob stuff in this
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
and tbh i liked the angry mob staircase scenes, they stressed me the hell out
Given the budget and talent potential, happy HK was a Peacock freebie. The entire "evil dies tonight" hospital crowd section with the DO YOU SEE?! "now he's turning us into monsters" line, every scene with Tommy Doyle over acted by intensely staring, jaw-clenching AMH* and his prop bat, every scene with the granddaughter (back with the jerk boyfriend, now she's a vigilante, etc.), JLC philosophizing = groan. On the plus side, the film looked great. Cool that the same Lindsey actress from the first Halloween returned to play her as an adult. And always good to see Judy Greer. Wish she was in the 3rd.. * To be fair, that's how he always looks.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 21 October 2021 02:42 (two years ago) link
y'know what really makes me mad about Halloween: Resurrection is if the dude on the hood of the car WASN'T Michael, and his throat was crushed so he couldn't talk, why the fuck was he acting maniacal like Michael while he was on top of the vehicle.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 October 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link
"One more day 'til Halloween (Ends), one more day 'til ... Silver Shamrock!"
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:03 (one year ago) link
Halloween Ends is now described as Laurie Strode's "journey". Maybe they're defining "journey" as "stuck in a runaway car in a '70s movie as the car plummets off a cliff"?
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link
it’s completely unthought marketing speak BUT this one is set four years after the other two, and those suggest strongly that Green/McBride are intersted in showing character development for their Laurie
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link
i'm excited.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link
I have seen twice now. I think I liked it, with reservations.
Ultimately, they opted not to go with the obvious tack, where Michael returns years later, formulaicly stabs his way through Haddonfield, and then final boss battle only he loses this time. this time, more examining the effects on tragedy on a community, and how it sometimes rips communities apart (think 9/11). How Myers has left everybody suspicious and paranoid and therefore the violence continues long after he disappears, but now it's civilian on civilian.
Lot of things underdeveloped, so it's not without flaws. It seems a wee bit hard to swallow that Laurie turns on Corey so abruptly, after initially being so sympathetic (that there's dialogue from Corey stating exactly this doesn't exactly make the flaw go away). But it is interesting, the examination of copycat killers, in that copycat killers don't kill for the reason their predecessors did. they are often chasing the glamour, or co-opting the image of the killer for their own purposes. Michael kills indiscriminately, Corey is going after his tormentors, anybody who fucked with him (or his girlfriend). Radio DJ receptionist really the only 'collateral damage'.
I think the sequences with Corey as killer were framed well and effective. I do think there was a missed opportunity to give the town's reaction to those slayings, mistaking them for Michael, and plunging into chaos. Likewise, Michael himself was more of a supporting character in his own franchise, but I get the idea - he's elder now and severely weakened from the beating he took four years ago, so now he's living in a cave and just opportunistically picking off passers-by, not going out and stalking anymore. I think he spares Corey as he looks into his eyes and sees some of himself in him, whereas Corey reinvigorates him enough to get him to go back into society for a few kills, as he gets his taste for it again. but his weakness is why Laurie overpowers him so easily.
as I said, it doesn't all land. there are a lot of leaps of logic (Allyson basically wanting to rip Corey's clothes off the moment she sees him for the first time being one). but Corey's nihilism is at least understandable - he was headed for big things in life, going to college for engineering, and instead he's working a low-paying job as a mechanic, living with his mother who treats him like he's 12, and not being able to venture into public because he's always recognized. and the people tormenting him are doing so for vanity (as the dad points out) rather than real concern for the kid he killed. wearing a mask lets him finally hide and become someone/something else.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
fuck. welp. hope nobody enters fearing spoilers. sorry I fucked that up.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Saturday, 15 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
New John Carpenter hit quote just droppedhttps://t.co/nfMFAe7lGE pic.twitter.com/CnC9OZxNuE— John Frankensteiner (@JFrankensteiner) October 12, 2022
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:52 (one year ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 October 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link
Really don’t hate this trilogy, the last one felt v unaware of how daft it was (in good & bad ways) this one was really going for it so it was easy to lean into the groaners. Honestly the best scenes tend to be vignettes completely unconnected to the main story & there are effective gruesome kills imo There is some surprisingly bad filmmaking in all three
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 15 October 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link
Sebadoh!
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link
whoops, meant that as hidden text. thread now awash in spoilers.
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link
Michael does not kill Sebadoh, fwiw
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link
^didn't stay for the mid-credits tag!
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link
ends was the best of the three imo, brought home the themes of kills and also had a grody dark corrupted vibe anytime they strayed near michael’s hole
i love michael’s hole
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:44 (one year ago) link
sorry forgot this wasn’t the gay thread
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link
lmao
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
the kill sequences felt like an top tier 80s slasher flick
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link
this one was really going for it so it was easy to lean into the groaners
that's part of why I liked this way more than the last one, though it still feels at times like Green isn't a weird enough director (anymore). like one of the Carrie-ish scenes with Corey and his mom, punctuated by his dad watching from the shadows and saying "I want you to find love" -- I merely appreciated the attempt.
loved however:
the opening scene, the horror of sensing what's about to happen combined with the horror of it happening. plus the way the kid says "ugly-ass boy" more like "ugly ass-boy" (in that kid way of slightly mishearing something and repeating it)
Laurie grinding Michael into paste and then just adding a paragraph to her book, instead of rethinking the whole thing. sort of a hack move, but felt appropriate.
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link
uh, hidden text doesn't go across paragraphs? sorry all.
― sloop johnnin' skater (geoffreyess), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link
swear to god the mullet kid looked exactly like someone in my 4th grade class. talked the same too.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
also why did so many people in Illinois have NY/Jersey accents.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Sunday, 16 October 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link
I saw Halloween Ends last night on Amazon Prime and enjoyed it a lot, it's probably the best of the Green trilogy
extra points for all the menacing shots of empty kitchens and the way that motif is repurposed at the very end
the discussion of the franchise itt makes me want to see the few I've missed
― Brad C., Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:01 (one year ago) link
its funny how many people outright hate this movie, and when I ask them to elucidate , they basically map out that they wanted the same shit that always happens in every Halloween movie. where's the fun in that.
doesn't mean this movie is inherently a success in trying something different (I liked it, but I can see arguments against parts of it), but kinda feel like this is the Last Jedi of teh Halloween series
― waiting for a czar to fall (Neanderthal), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:05 (one year ago) link
It’s easily the best of these new ones
― piedro àlamodevar (wins), Saturday, 18 February 2023 21:14 (one year ago) link
low bar
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 19 February 2023 02:28 (one year ago) link
Seriously. The previous two, but particularly the second one, were so bad, I don't care whether the third is any good at all. Never going to see it.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 February 2023 04:42 (one year ago) link
So what is up with David Gordon Green? What a weird career path, to divide your time pretty evenly between prestige indie dramas, sophomoric comedies, lame horror reboots and oddball Danny McBride HBO projects.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
he likes to make money and work with his friends, I assume.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:50 (six months ago) link
Wayne Wang had a similarly eclectic “One for me” (a personal project) followed up by “one for them”(studio work), before eventually deciding to stick with the indie route.
Blumhouse must be shitting itself over Exorcist: Believer’s extremely poor opening weekend. They spent $400 MILLION on just the rights to the franchise. That doesn’t include the cost of this one film
― beamish13, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:17 (six months ago) link
I've had three friends see it and my brother and all of them were bored to tears.
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:30 (six months ago) link
I've heard nothing but bad things about the new Exorcist, funnily enough I actually liked the trailer I saw before Oppenheimer and was mildly curious until I heard all the feedback.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:33 (six months ago) link
Possession horror generally sucks with a few exceptions
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 19:47 (six months ago) link