The Jordan Peterson Thread

it's a pretty garbage publication

lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it

the atlantic's editorial stance seems to be centrist-left, but with articles that try to empathize with a version of social conservatism that's actually worse than most social conservatives

These are people who aren’t looking for an ideology; they are looking for ideas.

this is a pure, uncut instance of ideological thinking. almost impressive.

it is astonishing to me that so many people think this dumb motherfucker has anything interesting or novel to say

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

Yeah, I think I was drawn to that article because of the recent Stereolab brouhaha. The article gives zero indication as to what all these people find interesting about him.

I see copies of his book on the “check out these super popular books” display at the library. I’ve never had anyone talk to me about him in a positive way though.

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

lucky. i see his book in stores, him on the tv, podcasts and my tattoo artist was talking about how great he was the other day.

he's not the guru douchebags deserve but he's the guru douchebags need

This came up on this weeks episode of The Weekly (our comedy "week in current afairs" style show) and I thought of this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NonVtxyAk

atlantic rebuttal http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/the-lefts-hatred-of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html

I liked the rebuttal

The all-Jordan Peterson issue of Skeptic Magazine might be the only issue you will ever want to buy, due to it being fucking hilarious cringe gold pic.twitter.com/OJT9tRSJOP

— Rebecca Watson (@rebeccawatson) August 15, 2018

the intellectual dark web is like the hair club for men. JP's not just a spokesman, he's...

aww hell yeah

Ugh. Shermer and Dawkins remind me of some contrarian-libertarian types I know, who are also theoretically too smart to fall for Peterson's shit and yet somehow not.

these dudes really want a bunch of nonsensical platitudes with no internal logic, yet hate religion

Good observation. I actually don’t think most people were built to be true skeptics/agnostics and will always look for some kind of religion substitute /contro-op

I don’t mean that in a judgmental way. It’s good to find an ethos—these guys just picked a bad one that flatters their preconceptions

there's a dipshit the local newspaper lets write op-eds and he's the most predictable libertarian/home-schooler type. you know, people who had repressive churchy parents who now think their parents had all the right ideas, but for the wrong reasons. so it's still a bad culture trying to mess with our children, but REASON is the answer instead of religion

in a recent op-ed it took him two paragraphs to go from "stop calling everyone racist" to "well, rappers say that word all the time"

I can't even

I mean these guys are pretty aligned with fundamental Christians in most ways anyway, especially now that Trump has bridged the gap between fundies and the 4chan incel crowd. watching these dudes all suddenly turn staunchly pro-life and pro-2A has been a trip though

JP is religious

Skeptic (a physical magazine)

Jordan Peterson is the public intellectual our dumbass society deserves.

ugh i was in a cab tonite and at a stop light i looked out the window at this huge theater and this motherfucker was on the marquee

for a show a month from now. the WHOLE marquee. "Dr. Jordan Peterson / 12 Rules for Life tour" fuck me running

Random observations

A fairly unique feature of Jordan Peterson's mentions defenders is how many of them don't even have an avi pic.twitter.com/NTwMFbVQDy

— Oryx & Solid Snake (@trash_ebooks) August 15, 2018

the ones that do are 90% anime characters

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/

Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.

“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.

Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”

“Drink, as in, water?”

“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”

He gives the example of having had some apple cider and subsequently being incapacitated for a month by what he believes was an inflammatory response.

“You were done for a month?”

“Oh yeah, it took me out for a month. It was awful ...”

“Apple cider? What was it doing to you?”

“It produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I seriously mean overwhelming. There’s no way I could’ve lived like that. But see, Mikhaila knew by then that it would probably only last a month.”

“A month? From fucking cider?”

“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”

“What? How is that possible?”

“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”

The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.

This guy is such a legit guy

lol yeah that 25 days thing is a baldfaced lie

“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”

“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”

Me and when I learned one of my best friends said he was genuinely interested in Jordan Peterson's work.

is it legal in Canada to punch a weak phony in the throat asking for a friend

talk about an angry orchard! oy!

How is scurvy not a thing with his daughter?

Give it time.

one of them is going to switch to straight up dust soon when the meat betrays them

Vancouver/Canada is filled with these types of people with bizarre diets based on pseudoscience, except a lot of them are vegetarian or vegan

It’s not surprising the same culture creates an environment where there are loonies that have wacky meat diets and/or give baseless advice

the most interesting part of the atlantic article to me was the psycjosomatic explanation for the daughter’s real and serious symptoms disappearing—that simplifying your diet can drastically eliminate stress.

they're *lying*. they are not eating only beef. that the atlantic did a remotely credulous article about this just says a lot about the atlantic.

I’d believe meat and greens. I can envision someone doing that. Not solely beef, salt and water though.

And vodka and bourbon of course.

shouts to eating like a robber baron

does joe rogan deliberately invite people who make him sound like an incredulous voice of reason by comparison?

probably, but also he's just not very bright

I listened to one of his podcasts on which he had a reasonable person and a crackpot on together and Rogan angrily, vehemently sided with the crackpot

Joe Rogan has done a good job legitimizing far right crackpot by showing they can hang with him, an affable stoner bro who likes to work out and sometimes, like, get deep and shit