Prince Albert Pujols, he reigneth

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Thinking about that makes Pujols think about all the line drives he has lost up the middle -- guaranteed hits in the baseball game he once knew. He is asked what his batting average would look like if second basemen played their position traditionally and didn't shade toward center field.

"Between .290 and .300, for sure," Pujols says, who instead sports a .254/.290/.428 slash line "Look at the balls that I'm hitting up the middle, especially this year. Out of those 30 or 40 or 50 balls, give me 25 hits. Add those 25 hits to my .250 batting average, I'd be hitting like .290."

(narrator voice): "he'd be hitting like. 316."


(narrator voice): "if you assume he's actually right about losing 25 hits up the middle this year against the shift"

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 02:47 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 00:12 (one year ago) link

right after i posted that, he got injured and then underwent season-ending surgery on his left knee. sorry albert.

his line for 2018:

117 G, .245/.289/.411, wRC+ 90, 19 HR, 5.6 BB%, 13.1 K%, -0.2 fWAR, 0.1 bWAR (positive!!)

Karl Malone, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:35 (one year ago) link

only 3 years left on his contract, after this season

Karl Malone, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:36 (one year ago) link

he actually injured his left knee in the hardware store

Karl Malone, Friday, 31 August 2018 01:36 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

happy 39th

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:16 (ten months ago) link

sigh... thread:

He’s listed at 38, but I’m pretty sure Albert Pujols is 40. Today @baseballpro, I lay out new evidence (from Pujols’s own mouth), and then dig into why this happens, and why it matters, and what parts of it *don’t* matter much (Free):

— Matthew Trueblood (@MATrueblood) April 24, 2018

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:21 (ten months ago) link

only 3 years and $72 million left on his contract

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 22:22 (ten months ago) link

slowest sprint speed in the majors last year (22.2 ft/s, which, when you put it that way, always seem really fast to me)
slowest sprint speed in 2017 (21.8 ft/s)
slowest sprint speed in 2016 (22.6 ft/s)
8th slowest sprint speed in 2015 (23.5 ft/s)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 January 2019 03:42 (ten months ago) link

two weeks pass...

this will be close when it's all said and done

Pujols career (18 seasons): .302/.382.554
Cabrera career (16 seasons): .316/.395/.551

(after 16 seasons Pujols was at .309./.392/.573)

omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:26 (nine months ago) link

wow that's sad

k3vin k., Friday, 1 February 2019 20:41 (nine months ago) link

(cabrera obviously a HOFer, but pujols' fall from the inner circle back to the mere mortals has been a long, slow, sad journey)

k3vin k., Friday, 1 February 2019 20:42 (nine months ago) link

pujols still a little more valuable overall, on average, due to his blazing speed and impressive defensive skills compared to miggy, but yeah :(

Karl Malone, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:50 (nine months ago) link

Pujols w/the Angels: .260/.315/.453

omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:54 (nine months ago) link

to compare to similar "decline phases" from a couple recent HOF guys who fell off a lot from their peak:

Frank Thomas after his MVP runner-up campaign in 2000: .262/.376/.507

Griffey Jr with the Reds/ChiSox/Seattle pt 2: .262/.355/.493

omar little, Friday, 1 February 2019 20:58 (nine months ago) link

that's why Peak Value and Career Value are separate considerations

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 1 February 2019 21:07 (nine months ago) link

prince albert pujols, he broketh free agency

mookieproof, Friday, 1 February 2019 21:10 (nine months ago) link

two months pass...

First I've ever heard that Ruth's and Cap Anson's RBI totals are not considered official. I can maybe see that for Anson, but I don't get it for Ruth.

clemenza, Monday, 29 April 2019 04:33 (six months ago) link

Box scores from the teens and '20s are not all absolutely verified/complete.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 29 April 2019 11:53 (six months ago) link

It's strange though that the pre-1920 RBIs aren't included in the official totals at all. Mistakes aren't too uncommon, and the "official" totals can easily be adjusted.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Monday, 29 April 2019 12:45 (six months ago) link

i was trying to think of a solid comparison for Pujols in terms of an all-time great player falling off a cliff. i checked out Frank Thomas, specifically the era after his 2000 MVP runner-up season. During his age 33-39 seasons he accumulated 14.8 bWAR. Albert during that same run (this is his age 39 season, doubt he'll add much to the total and may subtract some, he's at 0.0 bWAR now) has accumulated 8.5 bWAR.

Griffey Jr. put up a 7.1 bWAR during those same seasons.

Beltre, on the other hand, put up 37.6 bWAR. And it's probably not fair to include Barry Bonds but...63.1 bWAR from his age 33-39 seasons.

omar little, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:32 (six months ago) link

when i think of falling off a cliff, i think of andruw

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 16:38 (six months ago) link

🙌 Mr. 2,000 RBIs 🙌 @PujolsFive tacked on the two-thousandth RBI of his Hall of Fame career with a solo shot in #Detroit!

He joins Hank Aaron & Alex Rodriguez as the only #MLBPlayers to ever reach the milestone. Congrats to The Machine! 🔥

— MLBPA (@MLB_PLAYERS) May 9, 2019

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:20 (six months ago) link

1,329 of those RBIs with the Cardinals, 2001-2011

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:32 (six months ago) link

he is the Aged Compiler :/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 9 May 2019 19:51 (six months ago) link

his fWAR w/LA is a lot lower than his bWAR (6.6 vs 13.3)

even by bWAR's generous standards he's put together a WAR of 3.1 since the beginning of 2015, which is i think equal to what Cody Bellinger did in April.

omar little, Thursday, 9 May 2019 20:14 (six months ago) link

The stories of fans doing right by players and being rewarded with autographs and such are nice. But Pujols has long been a humble fellow who gets to the heart of the matter.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) May 9, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 10 May 2019 15:43 (six months ago) link

saw people being really weird about that on twitter -- like 'how selfish!' or 'what an idiot; he didn't get it authenticated so now it's worthless'

mookieproof, Friday, 10 May 2019 16:32 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Ignore the headlines you'll read about this being Albert Pujols' first time back in St. Louis since 2011. Truth is, he never left at all.

How Pujols' impact on those with Down Syndrome has continued to grow in STL even as he took a new uniform.

— Jenifer Langosch (@LangoschMLB) June 20, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 21 June 2019 21:00 (four months ago) link

pujols gets a curtain call in STL after homering to deep left

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:37 (four months ago) link

Ricky Horton speaks for us all when he said “of the 20 great moments he had - we’re gonna have to get another piece of paper”

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:40 (four months ago) link

scandal: albert pujols' wife diedre says cardinals fans truly are "best in baseball", it's like they never left, and that the HR ranked as the greatest moment in his career.

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 June 2019 20:47 (four months ago) link

he passed pete rose for 8th place all time in total bases with that HR

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:18 (four months ago) link

just a little guy named steve sax up next on that list

jk, next up is babe ruth

i will never make a typo ever again (Karl Malone), Saturday, 22 June 2019 21:18 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

2019 is almost in the books.

wrC+ 98, .249/.310/.449, -0.1 fWAR.

since the start of the 2015 season, he's been worth +0.1 fWAR overall, with his 1.6 WAR 2015 season balanced out by his -2.0 2017, and near-zero value for the other 3 years.

only 2 years and $59M left on his contract.

Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 September 2019 15:50 (two months ago) link

Prince Albert Pujols, he collecteth.

clemenza, Thursday, 19 September 2019 13:54 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

One key factor is the owners’ increasing use of analytics—sophisticated statistical metrics—to calculate a player’s value to the team and negotiate his salary accordingly. While many players believe that analytics can help improve their on-field performance, others remain skeptical.

“Put a computer on the mound and see if it will throw strikes, or put it at the plate and see if it can hit a fastball,” said future Hall of Famer Albert Pujols in the Los Angeles Angels’ locker room after a Labor Day weekend game.

not sure if he realizes that pitching machines are computerized, or that a computer-controlled bat with motion sensors could probably hit a fastball, if someone bothered to make it. not that is has anything to do with the point he was trying to make

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:59 (one month ago) link

Pitching machines have no soul

omar little, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:12 (one month ago) link

As a player whose career has essentially disintegrated in parallel with the rise of advanced analytics... I'm empathetic of his criticism of the advances. But then I remember dude is making zillions so then my empathy turns to straight up ROFL.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:49 (one month ago) link

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