the decoder ring to JP is that piece by his former colleague imo
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 August 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
ah, that Sackur thing was on the World Service this afternoon but i made it to the off switch before Peterson came on. don't expect anything better from a programme called Hardtalk which is a fucking stupid title that only a cunt would want to be the host of
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 August 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
The Atlantic jumps in bed with Peterson
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-of-jordan-peterson/567110/
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
Well, Caitlin Flanagan is the female Jordan Peterson, so that makes perfect sense.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
I can never figure out who "The Left" is anymore.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
thx for the C Flanagan warning so I don't click on that.
― Yerac, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
It's a garbage article, but perhaps notable for being in a popular publication that sometimes flirts with liberal ideas.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
lol does this just boil down to "why do people keep criticizing JP's regressive garbage ideas"
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
It's more like a content- and evidence-free screed about how the left is dying and millions of would-be liberals are now tuning in to Peterson, thereby creating a full on panic to delegitimize Peterson at all costs. It doesn't real give any reason why people like Peterson outside of vague hints about him being against identity politics.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
It also features the spurious claim that Peterson is as much an enemy of the alt-right as he is of the left.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link
it's a pretty garbage publication
lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
the atlantic's editorial stance seems to be centrist-left, but with articles that try to empathize with a version of social conservatism that's actually worse than most social conservatives
― mh, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link
These are people who aren’t looking for an ideology; they are looking for ideas.
this is a pure, uncut instance of ideological thinking. almost impressive.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
it is astonishing to me that so many people think this dumb motherfucker has anything interesting or novel to say
― marcos, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
honestly i only hear about him on ilx
― No organ. (crüt), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I think I was drawn to that article because of the recent Stereolab brouhaha. The article gives zero indication as to what all these people find interesting about him.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
I see copies of his book on the “check out these super popular books” display at the library. I’ve never had anyone talk to me about him in a positive way though.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
lucky. i see his book in stores, him on the tv, podcasts and my tattoo artist was talking about how great he was the other day.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
he's not the guru douchebags deserve but he's the guru douchebags need
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
This came up on this weeks episode of The Weekly (our comedy "week in current afairs" style show) and I thought of this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NonVtxyAk
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
atlantic rebuttal http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/the-lefts-hatred-of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link
I liked the rebuttal
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 11 August 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link
The all-Jordan Peterson issue of Skeptic Magazine might be the only issue you will ever want to buy, due to it being fucking hilarious cringe gold pic.twitter.com/OJT9tRSJOP— Rebecca Watson (@rebeccawatson) August 15, 2018
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link
the intellectual dark web is like the hair club for men. JP's not just a spokesman, he's...
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link
aww hell yeah
― ghost beef (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link
Ugh. Shermer and Dawkins remind me of some contrarian-libertarian types I know, who are also theoretically too smart to fall for Peterson's shit and yet somehow not.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 15 August 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link
these dudes really want a bunch of nonsensical platitudes with no internal logic, yet hate religion
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
Good observation. I actually don’t think most people were built to be true skeptics/agnostics and will always look for some kind of religion substitute /contro-op
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link
I don’t mean that in a judgmental way. It’s good to find an ethos—these guys just picked a bad one that flatters their preconceptions
― Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
there's a dipshit the local newspaper lets write op-eds and he's the most predictable libertarian/home-schooler type. you know, people who had repressive churchy parents who now think their parents had all the right ideas, but for the wrong reasons. so it's still a bad culture trying to mess with our children, but REASON is the answer instead of religion
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link
in a recent op-ed it took him two paragraphs to go from "stop calling everyone racist" to "well, rappers say that word all the time"
I can't even
― mh, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
I mean these guys are pretty aligned with fundamental Christians in most ways anyway, especially now that Trump has bridged the gap between fundies and the 4chan incel crowd. watching these dudes all suddenly turn staunchly pro-life and pro-2A has been a trip though
― frogbs, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
JP is religious
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 15 August 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
Skeptic (a physical magazine)
― cheese is the teacher, ham is the preacher (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 16 August 2018 02:58 (five years ago) link
Jordan Peterson is the public intellectual our dumbass society deserves.
― Trϵϵship, Thursday, 16 August 2018 03:15 (five years ago) link
ugh i was in a cab tonite and at a stop light i looked out the window at this huge theater and this motherfucker was on the marquee
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:18 (five years ago) link
for a show a month from now. the WHOLE marquee. "Dr. Jordan Peterson / 12 Rules for Life tour" fuck me running
― flappy bird, Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:19 (five years ago) link
Random observations
A fairly unique feature of Jordan Peterson's mentions defenders is how many of them don't even have an avi pic.twitter.com/NTwMFbVQDy— Oryx & Solid Snake (@trash_ebooks) August 15, 2018
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 16 August 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link
the ones that do are 90% anime characters
― mh, Thursday, 16 August 2018 13:04 (five years ago) link
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/08/the-peterson-family-meat-cleanse/567613/
Peterson told me it took several weeks for her to get used to the beef-only approach, and that the relief of her medical symptoms overpowers any sense of missing food. If even a tiny amount of anything else finds its way into her mouth, she will be ill, she says. This happened when she tried to eat an organic olive, and again recently when she was at a restaurant that put pepper on her steak.“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”“Drink, as in, water?”“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
“I was like, whatever, it’s just pepper,” she told me. Then she had a reaction that lasted three weeks and included joint pain, acne, and anxiety.
Apart from having to exist in a world where the possibility of pepper exposure looms, the only other social downside she notices is that she hates asking people to accommodate her diet. So she will usually eat before she goes to a dinner party, she told me, “but then I’ll go drink and enjoy the party.”
“Drink, as in, water?”
“I can also, strangely enough, tolerate vodka and bourbon.”
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
He gives the example of having had some apple cider and subsequently being incapacitated for a month by what he believes was an inflammatory response.
“You were done for a month?”
“Oh yeah, it took me out for a month. It was awful ...”
“Apple cider? What was it doing to you?”
“It produced an overwhelming sense of impending doom. I seriously mean overwhelming. There’s no way I could’ve lived like that. But see, Mikhaila knew by then that it would probably only last a month.”
“A month? From fucking cider?”
“I didn’t sleep that month for 25 days. I didn’t sleep at all for 25 days.”
“What? How is that possible?”
“I’ll tell you how it’s possible: You lay in bed frozen in something approximating terror for eight hours. And then you get up.”
The longest recorded stretch of sleeplessness in a human is 11 days, witnessed by a Stanford research team.
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
This guy is such a legit guy
lol yeah that 25 days thing is a baldfaced lie
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link
― 🦅 (Trϵϵship), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link
Me and when I learned one of my best friends said he was genuinely interested in Jordan Peterson's work.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link
is it legal in Canada to punch a weak phony in the throat asking for a friend
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link
talk about an angry orchard! oy!
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link
How is scurvy not a thing with his daughter?
― brownie, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link
Give it time.
― Scottish Country Twerking (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 22:49 (five years ago) link
one of them is going to switch to straight up dust soon when the meat betrays them
― flappy bird, Thursday, 30 August 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link