Buying A House: C or D?

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u.s. real estate is hugely dependent on the market in which one actually lives--imo, real estate in metro boston isn't going down anytime soon b/c we just don't have the right number of houses. JF lives in atlanta iirc and doubling value certainly makes an interesting case to sell if one is not tied to that city.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah, I think Atlanta should keep going up, unless the broader market tanks soon/black swan event. My first place I sold more than doubled and was still going up but I just really didn't want to live there anymore and wanted something easier.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:25 (five years ago) link

I moved to Atlanta in 2011, bought a house in 2014 while the market was still sorta reasonable in various parts of the metro area, and have watched it explode in the 4 years since. If I were buying or renting now, there'd be nothing I could afford pretty much anywhere in Fulton county. I was just looking at estimates to see where things are at right now, but in all honesty I don't really want to sell and move. I'd probably have a hard time buying a comparable house to mine anyplace I'd want to live and keep my mortgage payment at $600 like it is now.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 04:54 (five years ago) link

That is quite a reasonable mortgage. I suppose the best would be to hang on to it and save, move when prices go down again, rent house out until prices go up and you can sell. Seems like the market shouldnt influence too much of your decision if its not an investment property and you plan to buy in the same area.

Impossible Burgermeat. Unlikely Seitan. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 4 August 2018 05:27 (five years ago) link

Things are definitely becoming more buyer-friendly (marginally) in Seattle this year, some of the evidence being that there are actually multiple new condo projects getting planned, one is even converting before construction that was planned as rentals like everything else since the recession. (There’s some bizarre law in Washington that I guess means some lawyers have a cottage industry where they get to sue every condo developer as a matter of course? I don’t know the details.)

devops mom (silby), Saturday, 4 August 2018 06:22 (five years ago) link

My wife and I are moving out of London, something we would have done in maybe 10 years (when we'd be in our mid-fifties) but my wife got very sick two years back and is still in a long recovery process, London is a tough place to be if you don't move at everyone else's pace and my sis in law and wife's parents had a plan to move to Norfolk this year, so we are doing the same, selling the house, paying off the mortgage and cash buying a place.

We've found a lovely house in a great little town, and now things are moving, got an offer on our place, had our offer accepted, booked a survey, getting quotes from removals companies, slowly packing up spare rooms, yesterday I sat down with my two solicitor's quotes and there's a £960 difference between them, lot's of head scratching, now for two/three/however many months of freefall wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

MaresNest, Saturday, 4 August 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link

600 bux for a mortgage is madness to me (nyc)

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:15 (five years ago) link

Yeah, that is insane.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

Be my neighbors! The houses on each side of my property are vacant and are deteriorating quickly after being abandoned by owners who were in various stages of rehabilitating them (one of them is basically just a frame with a brand new roof on it, and it's been like that since summer 2016—I expect it's just going to collapse on itself one day).

So yeah, my mortgage is affordable and I have no directly adjacent neighbors (plenty other people on the street, though, just not next to me), but I also think the value estimates don't take into account I live in a perfectly nice house between two should-be-condemned properties.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:02 (five years ago) link

The frustrating thing is that other houses all throughout the neighborhood have been rehabbed and quickly turned around for waaaaaaay more than I bought mine for. These two houses are just cursed or something.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

I would sit on it for at least five or six more years.

Sure, you'd make back on what you bought it for, but all you've really been paying since 2014 is your interest. Get some of that principal paid, sell it for 20% more or whatever, and you'll really feel like you've made some money.

pplains, Saturday, 4 August 2018 15:29 (five years ago) link

I actually keep looking at land in Winterville (near Athens). Is there ever going to be a train from athens to atlanta? I keep seeing things about it.

Yerac, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:15 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't hold my breath. There's not even a straight shot on the Interstate from Athens to Atlanta.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:26 (five years ago) link

Every community has their second ave subway

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 4 August 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link

BLOODY solicitors!

Both times selling a property, we've had the normal solicitor go on holiday and older gentlemen fill in (different ones, apparently) who actually cannot use email or even look up anything basic on the internet.
Today he called and was reading random sentences of my own email of questions back to me in order to answer the same questions I was re-asking on the phone.

kinder, Monday, 6 August 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

i already have a house that i love but this wonderful foursquare is on one of the most beautiful streets in town. i won't buy it but i want it. maybe a tad overpriced, it needs some cosmetic work, not hugely crazy about the kitchen updates but within the next 5 years i think this will be considered a great price for this house especially considering all the other houses are this street are gorgeous. we looked at a few on this street when we were house hunting and i regret not buying one there.

https://www.redfin.com/OH/Lakewood/1452-Northland-Ave-44107/home/70838312?utm_source=myredfin&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instant_listings_update&riftinfo=ZXY9ZW1haWwmbD04MTIyMjU0JnA9bGlzdGluZ191cGRhdGVzX2luc3RhbnRfMTUmdHM9MTUzMzg0NjkzMDY2OSZhPWNsaWNrJnM9c2F2ZWRfc2VhcmNoJnQ9aW1hZ2UmZW1haWxfaWQ9ODEyMjI1NF8xNTMzODQ2OTIwXzImdXBkYXRlX3R5cGU9MyZzYXZlZF9zZWFyY2hfaWQ9MTc4NzMyMjAmbGlzdGluZ19pZD04NjIzMjkzOCZwcm9wZXJ0eV9pZD03MDgzODMxMiZwb3NpdGlvbl9udW1iZXI9MQ==

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 16:15 (five years ago) link

That’s a Big Family house

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 10 August 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

jesus that's ugly inside. look at how the fridge sticks out, lol. nice porch tho.

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 August 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

it has *potential*

i love the gold brick foundation, all that gorgeous woodwork throughout

marcos, Friday, 10 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

Extensive house hunting today, i day of three smells:

1) the awful cologne of estate agents
2) even worse scented candles
3) the carpet glue smell that hold down the awful cheap grey carpet that seems to have become a mandatory precursor to listing a house.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 11 August 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

moved in today. chaos obv but I am surprised at how good I feel. I didn't think I cared that much, but the thought I might never have to deal with a landlord again is incredible

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 12:33 (five years ago) link

great stuff ogmor, congrats

just sold our house and had an offer accepted on a new place over the weekend, now plunged into the tedious world of arranging contracts, getting movers arranged &c &c

super-psyched to have more space into which i can expand my store of clutter over the next few years

himalayan mountain hole (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:19 (five years ago) link

congrats ogmor & bg! good luck to you all

marcos, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:23 (five years ago) link

i'm digging my house a lot these days, though i already want to change the color of the walls on the first floor

marcos, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:24 (five years ago) link

ah, yes, new house means more scope for clutter, this is surely the true purpose of moving. what is a home but useful clutter? we've never really had to discuss home decor before and suddenly we have to work out our taste. a bit of painting is on the cards. the cats are spooked.

ogmor, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 13:40 (five years ago) link

Current circumstances mean this is in my thoughts at the moment.

First step: I have started segregating clutter.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

didn't you move not so long ago? hope all's ok

Here's my biggest biggest tip ever - get anything and everything agreed explicitly in writing with your buyers/sellers even if you assume it's obvious.

Certain people in our transaction are making my life a total misery.

kinder, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

5-6 years since last move, which was a drama.

This is... different. Not really in a position to talk about it yet except that it'll probably involve downsizing which is great for clutter management motivation.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

Hope you find your ideal place. <3

kinder, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:47 (five years ago) link

That's the problem, this a a huge thing which for me I'm sure will be the ideal place but Mrs aldo requires more of a leap of faith.

Location definitely doesn't have the same type of housing available and the best/easiest answer will involve somewhere smaller. Decluttering will be helpful beyond any need to do so to be honest, and I'll end up doing it anyway.

Bimlo Horsewagon became Wheelbarrow Horseflesh (aldo), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

we’ve been in a couple months now and have so far:
- repointed outside
- cleared gutters at front
- installed new bathroom
- sanded and varnished upstairs throughout
- plastered and painted upstairs throughout
- stripped all wallpaper
- repaired and reseated the double glazing

not sure what to do now. we had thought we were going to build an extension to connect the house to the garden but the architect has quoted figures which are substantially north of what we’d expected. if the garden was south facing (it’s NE) I would probably not balk because I know I would live there long enough (10+ years) to recoup but I’m in two minds. it’s hard to know how “bad” the garden is without having lived a summer with it. it’s quite long so should hopefully get some sun up the back till quite late on... ?

depressing

||||||||, Thursday, 18 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

Have you weatherproofed everything for the winter?

Yerac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

seeing a lot of price drops in my hood, def starting to look like a buyers market again

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

there were articles last month about how nyc was cutting prices on the most listed apartments since 2006.

Yerac, Thursday, 18 October 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

we have some original cupboards (edinburgh presses) and wardrobes (from 1927) and they are soooooo narrow. whyyyyyyyyyyyyy ? I can't even hang a suit in one e.g.

||||||||, Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:14 (five years ago) link

Yeah our last place had built-in wardrobes either side of the chimney breast but they're too shallow to hang anything sideways. hanging frontways plus shelves, was the answer.

kinder, Saturday, 20 October 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

There are probably a million things wrong with this place (oh, that sliding glass door,) but there's also probably a billion cool things that are right.

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/506-Sands-Ct_Gallup_NM_87301_M26502-77696#photo23

✈️✈️ (pplains), Friday, 28 December 2018 05:08 (five years ago) link

six months pass...

so today my neighbor's adult son, who is a handyman by trade and cleans his folks' yard every week, tells us that he believe's he's owed compensation for cleaning up leaf litter from the trees on my property that share a boundary with theirs. there are several trees and they drop a fair amount of debris, but nothing harmful to their property by what I understand to be the law in this kind of situation. They're not the friendliest people in the world, so this feels an awful lot like a shakedown. What am i supposed to do, pay him every week to keep his own yard clean?

― Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, May 17, 2018 4:04 PM (one year ago)

For god's sake he's back at it, albeit this time not explicitly trying to get me to pay him. In the ensuing year, I've taken it upon myself to very tidily trim the hedge/privacy screen between us and his mother's property, trim the tree in my yard to about half the size it has been for the last 5 years, and remove all dead branches from the tree in my backyard that borders their property. Now yesterday he's out telling me that the tree planted by the city in front of my house is "a fire hazard". He's telling me I need to be responsible for the leaves it's dropping (it's a big magnolia and sheds huge leathery leaves regularly). "I don't know what the status is with your parents, but my parents can't be having all these leaves in front of their house. This is ridiculous." I tried to straight out ignore him but he kept going on about it. All I could manage to get out in a courteous manner was "you have the issue completely wrong and I'm done discussing it with you".

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 11 July 2019 17:56 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Can I just say that buying a house is a major fucking dud.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 19 August 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

co sign. have you actually bought somewhere or are you in the purgatory of being in a chain?

kinder, Monday, 19 August 2019 12:35 (four years ago) link

yes it’s chronic. even worse is buying a fixer upper

im led by donky (||||||||), Monday, 19 August 2019 12:43 (four years ago) link

i can't believe i missed the new series of sparkle motion's neighbor's son.

Houses have too much maintenance.

Yerac, Monday, 19 August 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

I bought a new house two or three weeks ago--leaving the city, moving to a small town of 5,000 (with a Baseball Hall of Fame...not Cooperstown). The idea was to make retirement money on the changeover. I'm halfway there; got the new house for under my upper limit, now I have the anxiety of selling this one. I have till mid-November, at least. (The new house is really nice and not a fixer-upper, something I'm ill-equipped to do.)

clemenza, Monday, 19 August 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

Houses have too much maintenance.

it's true

i am not particularly handy and even if i was i don't really have the time. our upstairs bathroom door broke so we just didn't have a bathroom door for 6 months until my dad came over and fixed it

marcos, Monday, 19 August 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

let me recommend obtaining a teenage son, they love to fix shit and whatever they don't know how to do they just watch a youtube video and go for it

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

hopefully the white nationalists / misogynists haven't figured out how to channel those videos into redpill land, but I'm not sure what I'd do if they have, I really need the help

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

youtube videos are so valuable. I've diagnosed and fixed the ignitor on my stove, found out about the reset button on a stopped garbage disposal, opened a stuck front load washing machine door, redid all the caulk in my apartment from youtubes.

Yerac, Monday, 19 August 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link

when the father in law vacates his full workshop im moving out west and working my way through the entiyah noo yenkee werkshaap

phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Currently on year 3 or 4 of kitchen remodel

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 19 August 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

How old is the neighbor's son btw? Is he single?

Yerac, Monday, 19 August 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link


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