Music Documentaries + Films -- S/D

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Hah, left it open that way on purpose because I don't care about any of the three of them. Pretty sure it's Noel and even though I don't care about him or Oasis, I will probably still watch it. I watch pretty much all music documentaries, regardless of my feelings for the artist.

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

That's interesting... I go the other way. I've seen music docs that have resulted in me liking the artists less afterward. They're really hard to do well, IMO

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

Some of the better music docs I've seen -- Dig! is one that springs to mind, and the Ginger Baker doc was great when the director stayed out of it -- are about artists I don't really care about/for.

And then there's something like 30th Century Man, about an artist I'm fanatical about, and I barely made it through one viewing.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 August 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

What is particularly fresh about this Netflix series (so far) is that it focuses on the music to the exclusion of the personalities. These are new renditions, performed live, and you get to hear the whole song, interspersed with a discussion of its creation and meaning and structure.

I am a sucker for the "classic albums" series where the producer and the artist sit at a mixing board and solo / mute things and talk about them. But in those, it's mostly recorded music and old MTV or Rockpalast clips, not new in-studio recreations.

Of course I also like the "behind the music" stuff. Early struggles, touring to empty clubs, skyrocketing to fame and fortune, groupies, nightmare descent into drugs and alcohol, rehab, comeback, etc.

But I vastly prefer musk stuff about "yeah we had this little bit in D minor and I thought it was cool, then Eno said 'add a glockenspiel' and the rest is history.

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:05 (five years ago) link

Musk? Muso. Muso stuff.

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

Just wait for the Grimes doc with the Musk stuff.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

Heh

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 August 2018 00:18 (five years ago) link

Just noticed the Grant Hart doc is up on Amazon Prime video.

MaresNest, Friday, 3 August 2018 11:55 (five years ago) link

Yeah that's a top one. He's wistful and funny.

I guess that's a third category. cf. "The Punk Singer" (K. Hanna) and "Hit So Hard" (Patty Schemel).

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 August 2018 12:50 (five years ago) link

Yeah, my enjoyment of a documentary and performance videos is only very loosely coupled with how much I like particular records. With this past year's releases, I'm meh on the Khruangbin album, and love the Olden Yolk album. Yet I'm hypnotized by every gig video on youtube for the former, and couldn't make it through a session of the latter.

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:23 (five years ago) link

search

bjork live at royal opera house
roxy music (any live DVDs)
dj shadow-cut chemist live
pj harvey - please leave quietly (uh huh her tour with rob ellis and josh klinghoffer on drums)
bjork volumen (complete music videos)
goldfrapp - black cherry tour dvd

eris (Ross), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

I liked parts of the PBS series "American Epic" on Amazon.

Much of it is historiography about early recording - blah blah Carter Family, Son House, etc.

The last episode is a bunch of recent and contemporary Americana ppl recording on reconstructed 1930s recording equipment, direct to vinyl.

Content/trigger warning: Jack White's fingerprints are all over it, but many bits shine in spite of his presence.

devil's avocado (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 August 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

the series on dre was really great

honestly i prefer youtube interviews with musicians like the rick rubin kendrick lamar extended interview, though the older i get the less i care about what a musician has to say outside of their music, it is like demystifying the experience..the lyrics can give me what i need. im probably just an asshole tho

Ross, Friday, 3 August 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

A very cuddly Quincy Jones doc is up on Netflix

I've moped on a moped and cooed with a coed (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 22 September 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

There's a feature doc about ubiquitous NYC superfans/ merch couple Dennis and Lois (known to all local Mekons fans, for starters):

http://www.docnyc.net/film/dennis-and-lois/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 October 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DoBDSH_P9s

Eighty Big Ham Tents (sic), Wednesday, 24 October 2018 17:25 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

Is there a general thread on early rock critics? Couldn't find one.

I don't have much sense of Ben Fong-Torres as a writer. I've never read any of his books, and though I've known his byline probably since I first started reading rock critics, he's not in Stranded and he's not in my edition of The Rolling Stone Illustrated History of Rock & Roll (second, I think)--Charles Perry, who goes hand-in-hand with Fong-Torres in my mind, gets both California chapters--and those two books are largely my frame of reference for early American rock critics. He does have a list in Gambaccini's first Top 200 book, and he must be somewhere in The Rolling Stone Record Review Volume II, a book I consult all the time, but I scanned a couple of sections and couldn't find him.

So I spent the first half-hour of Like a Rolling Stone: The Life & Times of Ben Fong-Torres wondering why the film was made: seemed like a nice guy who had lots of big names advocating for his importance, but there was a disconnect there for me. Gradually, it did become clear how central he was to the first few years of Rolling Stone, and I guess that in and of itself is historically important. (If this were a film on Brooklyn Dodgers '50 dynasty, he's not Jackie Robinson or Duke Snider or Roy Campanella--he's more like Carl Furillo.) Like Mikal Gilmore, but in a very different way, he has a brother who figures prominently in his life--that section was interesting. And while I imagine some people will recoil, I liked his scenes with Cameron Crowe. Crowe comes across like the 15-year-old version of himself in Almost Famous, still in awe of Fong-Torres.

The best parts are audio snippets from some of his '70s interviews: Ray Charles, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, Jim Morrison. Morrison comes across as much more soft-spoken and thoughtful than I would have guessed.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 02:42 (two years ago) link

I like your Brooklyn Dodgers comparison. Carl Furillo....

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:01 (two years ago) link

I was watching it thinking, 'man, some of those interview cassettes look beat'

If they haven't already, I hope someone takes the initiative and digitizes them soon.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:40 (two years ago) link

The Ray Charles excerpts were pretty pointed.

clemenza, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 13:46 (two years ago) link

Got to see the forthcoming Aquarius Records documentary (still in festival only mode for the moment) -- a fun treat, and I have a nice little bit near the end (and an even smaller one in the opening credits).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 14:47 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Author Ned S8blette showed the "Omara" film doc tonight that has just been at movie festivals. He publicized the Vimeo showing vis his email list. It's a doc on Cuban singer Omara Portuondo, who came to fame for many via her role in the Buena Vista Social Club. After the screening on Vimeo, Ned had a Q&A with filmmaker Hugo Perez. A knowledgeable interesting guy. Great doc w/ archival footage, plus recent tour footage of her in NY, NJ, Cuba, Mexico City, South Korea . I didn't know she was the daughter of a white Cuban mother and a black Cuban father. Her mother got excommunicated from her well-to-do White family in 1927 for marrying her Dad. Dad was a baseball player and sang at home with Mom and the kids

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 December 2023 21:51 (four months ago) link

Director hasn’t been able to get a company to purchase rights to film to distribute it to theaters, plus while some of the footage in it is “fair use”, other clips require payments to record companies that director can’t yet afford

curmudgeon, Friday, 22 December 2023 21:54 (four months ago) link

Omara is a really well done film

curmudgeon, Sunday, 24 December 2023 05:05 (four months ago) link

four months pass...

‘Catching Fire: The Story of Anita Pallenberg’ Filmmakers on Working With Her Son to Capture His Complicated Mother’s Life: ‘Marlon Encouraged Us to Go Deep and to Go Dark’

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/catching-fire-documentary-anita-pallenberg-impact-1235990639

dow, Saturday, 4 May 2024 19:51 (two weeks ago) link

xpost Ned Sublette has done some incredible work for Afropop Worldwide:https://afropop.org/search-results?q=Ned+Sublette
And I really enjoyed his album Kiss You Down South--looks like it might be OOP, but still on spotify.

dow, Saturday, 4 May 2024 20:21 (two weeks ago) link

This looks like it could be interesting, I really wish this mania for cheap animation in music docs would stop tho, it doesn't work at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9cQSENpysQ

Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 May 2024 13:19 (two weeks ago) link

I really wish this mania for cheap animation in music docs would stop tho

That ain't workin'
That's the way you do it
Get your money for nothin'
And your chicks for free

Millennium Falco (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 5 May 2024 17:57 (two weeks ago) link

Billy was an odd duck and at almost every Boston gig I attended in the 90s. This should be a fascinating inside look into the whole scene.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 5 May 2024 20:39 (two weeks ago) link

I'm two episodes into Break it All: The History of Rock in Latin America and it's definitely worth checking out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWprHs86xao

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 8 May 2024 23:20 (one week ago) link

Yeah, I watched Rompan Todo last year and really enjoyed it.

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Thursday, 9 May 2024 04:51 (one week ago) link

Even if you don't want to commit to the full six episodes, the first two are amazing in the amount of old footage uncovered. I had never heard of the Avandaro Festival before and certainly didn't know how important it was.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 9 May 2024 05:23 (one week ago) link

"Catching Fire" was good!

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 10 May 2024 08:35 (one week ago) link


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