The Jordan Peterson Thread

well I only recognize the Stereolab lyrics tbh

cuz fuck if I'm gonna memorize any of this schmucks' "aphorisms" without a catchy melody behind them

Stereolab:
1. "Those who do not understand yet say they believe are hypocrites. Anything which is beyond the limits of human reason is illusion."
4. "Morals are for the blind, not the critical mind."
7. "Originally this set up was to serve society, now the roles have been reversed - they want society to serve the institutions"
9. "What's society based on? It's based on bluff."

idk what the 5th one is

Those are some pretty bad lyrics.

"To be jealous is to conform" tho i think they borrowed that from Barthes

no point being outraged at this point that most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends! Just become a Tankie!

" most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends"

that's certainly untrue

counterpoint

Just turned on SkyNews and who is there reviewing tomorrow's papers but Laetitia Sadier Brendan O'Neill, of course!

I am very sorry about this

https://i.imgur.com/lbusjT7.png

I still don't get this analogy and that's not Laetitia Sadier.

To NV, it's obviously up to you to skip that show, but you truly would be missing out.

it's from this http://www.self-titledmag.com/2010/11/24/the-self-titled-interview-laetitia-sadier-of-stereolab-monade/

(the analogy is that jordan peterson's daughter made a huge deal the other day about his diet of nothing but beef, which makes him the far-right opposite of morrissey)

I just don't get what that has to do with Mumford and Sons and Stereolab. May be in part because I know zero about Mumford and Sons.

mumford and sons posted a photo in the studio with jordan peterson, laetitia sadier tweeted pretty glowingly at him

it's a shitpost basically

On BBC24 right now, Stephen Sackur interviewing JP, bringing up his nonsense about lobsters...

SS: "Now, I'm no expert..."
JP: "But I am."

Also LOL at Sackur pointing out that, for someone who is concerned with men manning up, he seems awfully thin skinned and oversensitive when criticized - cut to JP looking thin skinned and oversensitive .

the decoder ring to JP is that piece by his former colleague imo

ah, that Sackur thing was on the World Service this afternoon but i made it to the off switch before Peterson came on. don't expect anything better from a programme called Hardtalk which is a fucking stupid title that only a cunt would want to be the host of

The Atlantic jumps in bed with Peterson

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-of-jordan-peterson/567110/

Well, Caitlin Flanagan is the female Jordan Peterson, so that makes perfect sense.

I can never figure out who "The Left" is anymore.

thx for the C Flanagan warning so I don't click on that.

It's a garbage article, but perhaps notable for being in a popular publication that sometimes flirts with liberal ideas.

lol does this just boil down to "why do people keep criticizing JP's regressive garbage ideas"

It's more like a content- and evidence-free screed about how the left is dying and millions of would-be liberals are now tuning in to Peterson, thereby creating a full on panic to delegitimize Peterson at all costs. It doesn't real give any reason why people like Peterson outside of vague hints about him being against identity politics.

It also features the spurious claim that Peterson is as much an enemy of the alt-right as he is of the left.

it's a pretty garbage publication

lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it

the atlantic's editorial stance seems to be centrist-left, but with articles that try to empathize with a version of social conservatism that's actually worse than most social conservatives

These are people who aren’t looking for an ideology; they are looking for ideas.

this is a pure, uncut instance of ideological thinking. almost impressive.

it is astonishing to me that so many people think this dumb motherfucker has anything interesting or novel to say

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

Yeah, I think I was drawn to that article because of the recent Stereolab brouhaha. The article gives zero indication as to what all these people find interesting about him.

I see copies of his book on the “check out these super popular books” display at the library. I’ve never had anyone talk to me about him in a positive way though.

honestly i only hear about him on ilx

lucky. i see his book in stores, him on the tv, podcasts and my tattoo artist was talking about how great he was the other day.

he's not the guru douchebags deserve but he's the guru douchebags need

This came up on this weeks episode of The Weekly (our comedy "week in current afairs" style show) and I thought of this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NonVtxyAk

atlantic rebuttal http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/the-lefts-hatred-of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html

I liked the rebuttal

The all-Jordan Peterson issue of Skeptic Magazine might be the only issue you will ever want to buy, due to it being fucking hilarious cringe gold pic.twitter.com/OJT9tRSJOP

— Rebecca Watson (@rebeccawatson) August 15, 2018

the intellectual dark web is like the hair club for men. JP's not just a spokesman, he's...

aww hell yeah

Ugh. Shermer and Dawkins remind me of some contrarian-libertarian types I know, who are also theoretically too smart to fall for Peterson's shit and yet somehow not.

these dudes really want a bunch of nonsensical platitudes with no internal logic, yet hate religion

Good observation. I actually don’t think most people were built to be true skeptics/agnostics and will always look for some kind of religion substitute /contro-op

I don’t mean that in a judgmental way. It’s good to find an ethos—these guys just picked a bad one that flatters their preconceptions

there's a dipshit the local newspaper lets write op-eds and he's the most predictable libertarian/home-schooler type. you know, people who had repressive churchy parents who now think their parents had all the right ideas, but for the wrong reasons. so it's still a bad culture trying to mess with our children, but REASON is the answer instead of religion

in a recent op-ed it took him two paragraphs to go from "stop calling everyone racist" to "well, rappers say that word all the time"

I can't even

I mean these guys are pretty aligned with fundamental Christians in most ways anyway, especially now that Trump has bridged the gap between fundies and the 4chan incel crowd. watching these dudes all suddenly turn staunchly pro-life and pro-2A has been a trip though

JP is religious

Skeptic (a physical magazine)