Seriously, this isn't even that "80s."
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:29 (one year ago) link
Are there even snares that go "poosh?"
The snare sounds are quite tasteful across most of the record, thinking about it - I can't think of any moments where cavernous reverb is applied or any excessive gated reverbs.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:33 (one year ago) link
I guess Isn't It Midnight is pretty 80s, right down to the tempo.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:34 (one year ago) link
The production on this record is '80s, though - it couldn't possibly be placed in any other decade - it just uses the trends of the time tastefully instead of in an OTT way like others did.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link
agreed. this record sounds super nice, not to simplify it - but yeah
― eris (Ross), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link
It's basically the 80s way of making a record sound 70s dry, when most 80s signifiers lean hard on the studio mush.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:41 (one year ago) link
"isn't it midnight" is like "what if the heart s/t were tasteful," a great question with a great answer
― princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:43 (one year ago) link
I dunno, the pristine digital quality of the overall sound and the programmed, layered nature of the production and the keyboard sounds used and the precise, automated nature of the mixes place this square in '80s territory for me, even without the massive reverbs. It has more in common with Brothers in Arms than it does No Jacket Required.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:47 (one year ago) link
As for the drumming on 'Big Love', my guess is the same as Josh's in that I think it's actually a combination of programming and overdubbed drum parts. My guess is that Buckingham laid down a basic drum machine part as a guide (to get the timing tight) and built the track up from that, and then got Mick to overdub toms, "real" snare fills, cymbal washes etc. It's possible that the guide track was replaced eventually, but it doesn't sound like it.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:00 (one year ago) link
If anything that's another intriguing data point in favor of the production: it's hard to tell what is programmed and what is Mick fuckin' Fleetwood.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:32 (one year ago) link
Big Love is all about the Balearic masterpiece of a remix by Arthur baker imo
― i know kore-eda (or something), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:34 (one year ago) link
*except where Stevie's songs fall over.
uh whassamatta. baby.
― Arthur Funzonerelli (stevie), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link
That alt Mystified is pretty awesome and weird, though there's a single recurring drum sound in it that I'm finding crazily distracting.
Framing "Big Love" as a missed opportunity presupposes that the live version had some notional existence at the time the original was composed - is there any evidence of that?
In this interview he talks about Big Love being about "the potential of a single guitar doing the work of a whole track", so that tells me he might have written it that way first, then added all the other elements later in the process
― enochroot, Friday, 3 August 2018 01:45 (one year ago) link
and the dream says I WANT YOUand the dream is gone
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2018 02:06 (one year ago) link
I never ever ever got burned out on 80s production styles/techniques. 90s and 00s, almost immediately.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 3 August 2018 02:21 (one year ago) link
If anything, my appreciation for the technical skill of '80s production has only increased with time. There were a lot of legitimately stunning production achievements in the '80s. Of course, there are many examples of the trends of the time done badly, but that exists in every decade.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 3 August 2018 06:24 (one year ago) link