Remain In Light, Side 2

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xp "Great Curve" was excellent live when I saw Byrne ten years ago, but I agree I haven't heard a live version of "Once in a Lifetime" that matches the studio version

Vinnie, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link

otm and “Born Under Punches” too imo, perfect studio creations. “Crosseyed and Painless” bangs though.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:20 (five years ago) link

live version of born under punches slays the studio version, you crazy

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 01:23 (five years ago) link

Too slow and a totally different groove. Tape loops make the song.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:15 (five years ago) link

I like the live Born Under Punches, but it doesn't really compare. As flappy said the groove is totally different.

Not sure why Once in a Lifetime doesn't come through so well live, it's kind of got a strange rhythm to it and I think Eno's vocals are missed on the chorus. I feel like a lot of the power in the tune is due to the way the instruments are mixed - the bass up top, the twinkly synths in the background, Byrne front and center.

Great Curve...feel like it's too layered and complex to properly replicate. The live version I have sounds like it had to be slowed down and the mass vocals don't gel the way they do in studio.

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:28 (five years ago) link

there are plenty of live versions of born under punches that are significantly faster than the recording, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVIKF03KkVM

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:30 (five years ago) link

it's true that the live version doesn't start out with the same groove as the studio version, but it slowly builds the component parts until it reaches a reasonable facsimile of the recorded groove. idk, born under punches is prob my fav heads song, i love both the live and studio versions, but in the live version you can really hear weymouth's bassline--about half of it is totally buried in the recording--and the moment when the rest of the groove locks in with her line is goosebump-inducing.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:34 (five years ago) link

Still a totally different groove though. The parts that make up the studio version are perfectly out of sync in a way that is only possible with tape loops (or samplers, I suppose, but certainly not a live band).

xp

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:35 (five years ago) link

Good point about her bass line - the main sort of jumbled up slap bass loop sits really high in the mix.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:36 (five years ago) link

back to the topic at hand, Houses In Motion...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaMzKpNC2Jk

y'all should really check out the whole Rome 1980 concert on YT, the versions from that show match anything on The Name of This Band..

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link

yes. Belew is an air bomber at this show. Insane playing

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 04:53 (five years ago) link

Just watching the version of Crosseyed and Painless from this show. Belew's solo around the 4-minute mark. Fucking hell. What a band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6g8lFmsCXhg

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 10:39 (five years ago) link

Srsly Rome 80 is a top 3 all time reason for youtube existing and i have no idea what the other two are.

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

^^

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 16:00 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

Breakdown of "Rapture" sounds like a Remain in Light outtake: discuss
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp9An5OcdE4

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

yes!

flappy bird, Saturday, 1 December 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

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budo jeru, Sunday, 12 January 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

The Eno mix of Houses.. is still unavailable on CD; i can't understand why it wasn't on the Remain In Light reissue. 40 (!) years old this year;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2twY8YQYDBE

piscesx, Sunday, 12 January 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

Ha oops

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=580i1YCnli0

piscesx, Sunday, 12 January 2020 22:19 (four years ago) link

XXP - Apologies, I was posting this news - https://www.loudersound.com/news/adrian-belew-teams-up-with-jerry-harrison-to-tour-remain-in-light

Maresn3st, Monday, 13 January 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link

Be conservative : bring a $20 into the bar and that’s all you can spend.

Just watching the version of Crosseyed and Painless from this show. Belew's solo around the 4-minute mark. Fucking hell. What a band.

📹

calstars, Monday, 13 January 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link

Long interview with Jerry Harrison about upcoming RiL shows and other stuff

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/talking-heads-guitarist-jerry-harrison-remain-in-light-tour-936665/

that's not my post, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

I just heard about those shows this morning. Cool, but:

Are you playing the album straight through in sequence?

I don’t see a reason to do that. I don’t think that the order on the album is the order that I would want to play it live... Let’s just say we don’t feel obligated to play every song.

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

Since we’re playing festivals, we have maybe 45 minutes to play. We definitely want to give Turkuaz a chance to play a couple of their songs. I think Adrian and I both probably want to play something of our own, too.

So a 45 minute set featuring some Jerry Harrison solo songs, some Adrian Belew solo songs, some songs by this band Turkuaz, and a few songs from Remain in Light? Good for Jerry but I might take pass tbh.

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

Great interview though. What a wonderfully weird guy: I’ve co-founded a company that’s trying to create an antidote to snakebites. Basically, mosquitoes kill the most people, humans kill the next most people and then snakes.

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link

is THAT why Byrne still gets Old-Fashioneds with him

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

xps I LOVE that "Houses In Motion" remix, a whole extra verse at the end

and yeah, never reissued, just like the cool early version of "New Feeling" here:

https://www.discogs.com/Talking-Heads-Love-Building-On-Fire-New-Feeling/release/1168619

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link

So a 45 minute set featuring some Jerry Harrison solo songs, some Adrian Belew solo songs, some songs by this band Turkuaz, and a few songs from Remain in Light? Good for Jerry but I might take pass tbh.

Cross eyed and Painless
The Overload
Oh Daddy
Band Intro Vamp
Cherokee Chief

... (Eazy), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:03 (four years ago) link

Did not know about either of those alternative versions. Could go for a roundup of all Talking Heads odds and sods, anyone have a list?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 17 January 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link

Giving it a few listens last week, it struck me that segments of the jam part on the Isley Brothers "Live It Up" kinda remind me a bit of the grooves on Remain in Light.

The Live in Rome versions of some of these tracks are outrageously good.

earlnash, Friday, 17 January 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

Did not know about either of those alternative versions. Could go for a roundup of all Talking Heads odds and sods, anyone have a list?

― Gerald McBoing-Boing

no but there's some interesting stuff, there's the 5.1 mixes which are good and significantly different (even the downmixes of them circulating are great), the eno 12" version of "i zimbra" (this is the one frankie knuckles would spin at the power plant), the longer cassette mix of "speaking in tongues", the version of "psycho killer" with arthur russell...

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Friday, 17 January 2020 05:24 (four years ago) link

"Life During Wartime" with Fripp shredding over it as well

never heard that Eno 12" version of "I Zimbra" or the Arthur Russell "Psycho Killer"... YSI? Youtube link?

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 17 January 2020 05:28 (four years ago) link

I think we owe it to ILM to compile these

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 17 January 2020 05:28 (four years ago) link

those downmixes are so great. as said re ril, there's bits and lines you can't really even hear in the original and they fit well

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Friday, 17 January 2020 05:29 (four years ago) link

yeah agreed, they are pretty much essential for fans

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 17 January 2020 05:31 (four years ago) link

here's the eno i zimbra remix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgiHT8SVnXg

tylerw, Friday, 17 January 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

and here's the arthur russell psycho killer (this was a bonus track on a 77 reish)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoclXuB6JOU

tylerw, Friday, 17 January 2020 20:11 (four years ago) link

fuck yeah, thanks Tyler!

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 17 January 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

Tyler is definitely the guy to compile TH rarities and post it on his blog. Please and thank you! ;-)

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 17 January 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

ha! this thing pulls together some bits n bobs: https://www.amazon.com/Bonus-Rarities-Outtakes-Talking-Heads/dp/B00122REJU

tylerw, Friday, 17 January 2020 21:52 (four years ago) link

I’d always thought of them as a band that did t leave much on the cutting room floor bc other van that houses in motion remix they were pretty stingy with their b-sides. But there’s a surprising amount of alternate versions and outtakes that have come out over the last 10 years from all the various reissues, the box set, greatest hits and etc. Not many of them are very revelatory imo, not many fully-realized unreleased songs, but a lot of fun listening just the same.

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link

^typos, posting from the bar, etc etc

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Saturday, 18 January 2020 03:09 (four years ago) link

That Arthur Russell mix is an interesting historical artifact but it is p bad tbqh

uncrut gems (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

yeah, it's kinda neat but it sounds more like an overdub than a remix

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

I've waffled on this before but it's funny how the non-extended cuts from the vinyl LP of Speaking In Tongues are pretty obscure now too; the CD copies all used the extra long mixes from the original cassette. Some are a minute longer, some almost 2 minutes.

Also weird; you can only get Storytelling Giant as part of that 2003 box set, there's still no other proper vids compilation.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51gCb0C1zmL._SX355_.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 18 January 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

I got it on vhs in my attic if anyone wants to come over and check it out

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

On my way

We Jam von Economo (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:25 (four years ago) link

The 5.1 downmix of Houses in Motion >>>

that's not my post, Sunday, 19 January 2020 01:57 (four years ago) link

personally i prefer the long mixes but i guess i would...

revenge of the jawn (rushomancy), Sunday, 19 January 2020 05:36 (four years ago) link


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