damn glad i have an unsullied copy
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link
gdi
re-evaluating my fav stereolab albums: mayonnaise eclipse and the groop played chaos dragon bachelor pad music pic.twitter.com/N60nLLO2aR— ┬┴┬┴┤◕_◕) (@malteserubble) August 2, 2018
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link
lol aren't they supposed to be socialists
― marcos, Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link
marxists, to be exact
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
JP’s whole thing is literally “Marxism is evil and murderous ideology” and I don’t remember Laetitia ever having a Corgan goes on InfoWars moment so it’s really confusing.
― flappy bird, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
She's involved with all that Living Marxism/Spiked lot who are basically Libertarian trolls.
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link
Ditto the (former) singer with Pram (see ILM ad nauseum).
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link
Imagining Peterson vs. Stereolab as a right vs. left thing is wrong and pointless. Sadier's lyrics contain plenty of sympathetic common ground with the likes of Peterson.
― everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link
people keep saying this without examples
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
On the Stereolab thread I posted some. Can do more if you like.
― everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link
― Fizzles, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link
at least i now know not to bother going to see her play here in the autumn
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link
Ok, just for fun, how much do you REALLY know about Peterson & Stereolab? There's five quotes from each here:
1. "Those who do not understand yet say they believe are hypocrites. Anything which is beyond the limits of human reason is illusion."
2."Evil is the force that believes its knowledge is complete."
3. "Consult your resentment. It’s a revelatory emotion, for all its pathology."
4. "Morals are for the blind, not the critical mind."
5. "Nothing at all can be changed if evolution turns us to silence"
6. "When you have something to say, silence is a lie"
7. "Originally this set up was to serve society, now the roles have been reversed - they want society to serve the institutions"
8. "To be jealous is to conform."
9. "What's society based on? It's based on bluff."
10. "Speak the truth and see what happens"
― everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link
well I only recognize the Stereolab lyrics tbh
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link
cuz fuck if I'm gonna memorize any of this schmucks' "aphorisms" without a catchy melody behind them
Stereolab:1. "Those who do not understand yet say they believe are hypocrites. Anything which is beyond the limits of human reason is illusion."4. "Morals are for the blind, not the critical mind."7. "Originally this set up was to serve society, now the roles have been reversed - they want society to serve the institutions"9. "What's society based on? It's based on bluff."
idk what the 5th one is
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link
Those are some pretty bad lyrics.
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
"To be jealous is to conform" tho i think they borrowed that from Barthes
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link
no point being outraged at this point that most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends! Just become a Tankie!
― calzino, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
" most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends"
that's certainly untrue
― akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
counterpoint
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
Just turned on SkyNews and who is there reviewing tomorrow's papers but Laetitia Sadier Brendan O'Neill, of course!
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link
I am very sorry about this
https://i.imgur.com/lbusjT7.png
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link
I still don't get this analogy and that's not Laetitia Sadier.
To NV, it's obviously up to you to skip that show, but you truly would be missing out.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link
it's from this http://www.self-titledmag.com/2010/11/24/the-self-titled-interview-laetitia-sadier-of-stereolab-monade/
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link
(the analogy is that jordan peterson's daughter made a huge deal the other day about his diet of nothing but beef, which makes him the far-right opposite of morrissey)
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link
I just don't get what that has to do with Mumford and Sons and Stereolab. May be in part because I know zero about Mumford and Sons.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link
mumford and sons posted a photo in the studio with jordan peterson, laetitia sadier tweeted pretty glowingly at him
it's a shitpost basically
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link
On BBC24 right now, Stephen Sackur interviewing JP, bringing up his nonsense about lobsters...
SS: "Now, I'm no expert..."JP: "But I am."
Also LOL at Sackur pointing out that, for someone who is concerned with men manning up, he seems awfully thin skinned and oversensitive when criticized - cut to JP looking thin skinned and oversensitive .
― Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link
the decoder ring to JP is that piece by his former colleague imo
― flappy bird, Monday, 6 August 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link
ah, that Sackur thing was on the World Service this afternoon but i made it to the off switch before Peterson came on. don't expect anything better from a programme called Hardtalk which is a fucking stupid title that only a cunt would want to be the host of
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 August 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link
The Atlantic jumps in bed with Peterson
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-of-jordan-peterson/567110/
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link
Well, Caitlin Flanagan is the female Jordan Peterson, so that makes perfect sense.
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link
I can never figure out who "The Left" is anymore.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link
thx for the C Flanagan warning so I don't click on that.
― Yerac, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link
It's a garbage article, but perhaps notable for being in a popular publication that sometimes flirts with liberal ideas.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link
lol does this just boil down to "why do people keep criticizing JP's regressive garbage ideas"
― frogbs, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link
It's more like a content- and evidence-free screed about how the left is dying and millions of would-be liberals are now tuning in to Peterson, thereby creating a full on panic to delegitimize Peterson at all costs. It doesn't real give any reason why people like Peterson outside of vague hints about him being against identity politics.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link
It also features the spurious claim that Peterson is as much an enemy of the alt-right as he is of the left.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link
it's a pretty garbage publication
lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it
― mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link
the atlantic's editorial stance seems to be centrist-left, but with articles that try to empathize with a version of social conservatism that's actually worse than most social conservatives
― mh, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:57 (five years ago) link
These are people who aren’t looking for an ideology; they are looking for ideas.
this is a pure, uncut instance of ideological thinking. almost impressive.
― ryan, Thursday, 9 August 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link
it is astonishing to me that so many people think this dumb motherfucker has anything interesting or novel to say
― marcos, Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link
honestly i only hear about him on ilx
― No organ. (crüt), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I think I was drawn to that article because of the recent Stereolab brouhaha. The article gives zero indication as to what all these people find interesting about him.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
I see copies of his book on the “check out these super popular books” display at the library. I’ve never had anyone talk to me about him in a positive way though.
― JoeStork, Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link
lucky. i see his book in stores, him on the tv, podcasts and my tattoo artist was talking about how great he was the other day.
― kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link
he's not the guru douchebags deserve but he's the guru douchebags need
― the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:29 (five years ago) link
This came up on this weeks episode of The Weekly (our comedy "week in current afairs" style show) and I thought of this thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NonVtxyAk
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 9 August 2018 23:33 (five years ago) link
atlantic rebuttal http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/the-lefts-hatred-of-jordan-peterson-is-perfectly-rational.html
― kurt schwitterz, Friday, 10 August 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link