19 Elvis Fans Can Be Polled: The ILM Elvis Presley poll roll out thread

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Another distinction is that even when it's the same songwriters it could be Elvis hearing the song from a previous hit version... or directly from the songwriters' demo. For example, "Hound Dog" and "Jailhouse Rock" are both Leiber-Stoller but only the former had been a hit record. "Jailhouse Rock" was written expressly for Elvis.

(*Elvis's "Hound Dog" was evidently derived more from Freddie Bell and the Bellboys' version btw).

Josefa, Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

Then there's a song like "Gentle On My Mind," which was basically mandatory for albums released in 1968 and 1969, including From Elvis in Memphis. Roger Miller, Tammy Wynette, Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin...fucking everybody recorded that song.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

and he still bodies the fuck out of it

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 July 2018 20:48 (five years ago) link

I just read that Neil Diamond's "Sweet Caroline" was produced by Chips Moman et al. at American Sound in Memphis

somehow Elvis managed to get a little different sound there

Brad C., Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

Yes, in fact I believe that the story is that when Elvis went to record at American a Neil Diamond session was already scheduled and Neil had to be bumped. Which didn’t sit well with the musicians as this is kind of a session musician no-no. Leading to some Q&As at the time of the form
Q: Are you looking forward to recording with Elvis?
A: Well, it’s not like he’s Neil Diamond or anything

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

The story about the session being bumped is true; I suspect that's why Elvis recorded "And the Grass Won't Pay No Mind," which Diamond wrote. It was payback for the use of the studio, and ended up on Back in Memphis, the "sequel" album.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

Thanks. Found the quote in Sweet Soul Music, which I always assume was written when the bumping of Neil had yet to be revealed, making the quote seemed somewhat puzzling without the extra context:

There was nothing really special about it, says Wayne Jackson, who played trumpet on the session; it was just another date. “We had been doing Neil Diamond just before Elvis came in, and Neil was a big deal to us. I mean, we were thrilled about Elvis, but it wasn’t like doing Neil Diamond.”

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

This article provides all sorts of detailed context for the events leading up to and through that session. Opened my eyes when I first read it and still packs a nightly (karate) punch. Ho!
http://www.furious.com/perfect/elvis69.html

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

Can’t seem to find anything else that guy wrote but damn if writing that article doesn’t constitute a one hit wonder, Have A Nice Day, thank you very much

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 17:54 (five years ago) link

Chip's exact words were, "Fuck Neil Diamond. Neil Diamond will just have to be postponed. Tell Elvis he's on."

Brad C., Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:05 (five years ago) link

Interesting (to me) to see that the original version of “Suspicious Minds” was on the Scepter label. Which led me to find that BJ Thomas also cut a version at American with the Memphis Boys which I have yet to hear. Forgot about the Fine Young Cannibals version.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:15 (five years ago) link

BJ Thomas version uses exactly the same arrangement with the same players, with maybe some slightly more in your face horn lines peeking out like that extra piccolo trumpet line in the alternative version of “Penny Lane.” And a little more blue-eyed soul shouting on some of the vocals, I guess, which is kind of interesting. Sounds a little like The Box Tops (d’oh!) but really a little more like The Buckinghams.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:27 (five years ago) link

lol @ this thread title

calstars, Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

I’d like to think the thread title was inspired by my ballot title, but only Elvis Preston knows for sure.

Dwight Yoakum version of “Suspicious Minds” is pretty good. Retains some of the hooks, particularly in the backing vocals, but changes stuff up as well, such as playing a (simplified) variant of the rhythm guitar lick a little more louder and upfront.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:36 (five years ago) link

Sorry, Dwight Yoakam not
Pappy Yokum

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

Pronounced duh-white yolk-ham

calstars, Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

“This is ‘Dwight Yoakam,’ and it’s Take 1! Take 1”
“It’s, it’s ‘yolk-ham,’ actually.”
“What did I say?”

Ah, the Scepter connection deepens. Dionne Warwick also recorded an album at American.

Also had overlooked the Billy Strange connection and forgotten the rest of this Mac Davis story, from Guralnick’s Careless Love

even the Colonel seemed to sense there was something special about Strange’s twenty-seven-year-old protégé, whom he had met for the first time at the Charro! session. “That first night Colonel Parker said [to me], ‘Are you the boy who wrote that “Little Less Conversation”?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ He said, ‘You a pretty good-lookin’ boy, you’re going to be a star.’ I said, ‘Well, thank you very much.’ He said, ‘You want the Colonel to rub your head?’ I’m looking around, and I’m thinking he’s really putting me through the grease, but these guys with him are dead serious, they’re all just looking at me. So I bent over, and he put his hand on my head, like Oral Roberts, and he said, ‘You’re going to be a star. You tell everybody the Colonel touched your head.’

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:50 (five years ago) link

And here is the original, pretty-much-identical except-for-the-vocal version of “Suspicious Minds,” performed by the composer, Mark James. No need for any advanced degree in Kingology to recognize what Elvis brought to the song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFP0EP-Oi2I

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

A little lessmore pre-rollout preamble posting from a different point of view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9psq4wzl98

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 19:18 (five years ago) link

Seems that Mark James also wrote "Hooked on a Feeling" and, um, "Always on My Mind."

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

(xpost) A bunch of songs about or referring to Elvis:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_about_or_referencing_Elvis_Presley

My favourites are X's "Back 2 the Base" and R.E.M.'s "Man on the Moon."

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:13 (five years ago) link

Yeah, those are two good ones.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

Presumably “The King Is Gone (So Are You)” as posted up thread is also mentioned

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

Elvis is such an all-encompassing subject, I wouldn't doubt that there are a few dozen songs not on that list where, if you asked the songwriters, they'd tell you they were elliptically writing about Elvis.

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

Forgot about Mojo Nixon and Gillian Welsh songs.

Yes, he is such a wide-ranging subject that if you can hang on as you dive into the omphalos of his belt buckle, you end up appreciating whole worlds of other music other than what he himself actually recorded.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

One thing not on that list that explicitly references Elvis is the Odds' "Wendy Under the Stars."

clemenza, Sunday, 29 July 2018 20:59 (five years ago) link

In parallel to this thread, something just made me remind myself of the interesting story of how the Grand Ole Opry got its name, but sleep is coming so I will save it for another day or another thread.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

Doing the images from this poll and damn there's so many good photos of him. He was a very photogenic, gorgeous looking man.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:39 (five years ago) link

It also makes it very noticeable how bad his health got in his final year. He looks out of shape in 1975 and early 1976 but he still looks great in front of a camera... the spark in his eyes is still there. Then in one year it seems like he aged ten years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:44 (five years ago) link

otm. the Wertheimer photos in particular completely slay me

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:45 (five years ago) link

Larry Geller had a good gig putting the L’Oréal into Elvis’s hair every few weeks.

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link

Yeah. For years had the poster on my wall for Sam Shepard’s Fool For Love with the Wertheimer “kiss” on it. http://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/ten-days-with-elvis-presley

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:50 (five years ago) link

this photo from 76 haunts me, he looks so ...clammy. like you can see his chemical dependence completely catching up with him & overtaking him physically

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/a8/c5/fea8c5fe7adb083a637411d01ab1d6da.jpg

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 July 2018 02:54 (five years ago) link

I guess we should wait until the American day to get this going? the King never made it here to Olde Europe so it's only right to wait

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 08:19 (five years ago) link

He didn’t get up early to see a moon launch, apparently, so I suppose you are right

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

Well, good eveningmorning
Don’t that sun look good going downcoming up

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 11:19 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK0x6U1aPuk

it's time to take care of business

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

TCB in a ⚡️

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:05 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/BO1V4eI.jpg

50. Elvis Presley - “Love Me” 112 points, 5 votes

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:07 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNMKIGD07F8

classy but the following one is definitive I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxS0xRpsfgY

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/bn4Mgty.jpg

49. Elvis Presley - “Always On My Mind” 119 points, 7 votes

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:20 (five years ago) link

Treat me like a fool.....

Love the images. Always On My Mind too low!

kornrulez6969, Monday, 30 July 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GOtmGTh.jpg

48. Elvis Presley - “(Let Me Be Your) Teddy Bear” 127 points, 5 votes

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:36 (five years ago) link

(Have to admit I’ve never taken the time to understand how the points weighting works on these polls)

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

I gave 50 points for a number 1, 49 for number 2, and so on.

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 13:58 (five years ago) link

i have a soft spot for this song. and it has a good bouncy rhythm

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link

That’s the first one I voted for here, but don’t mind the other two, just maybe voted for similar stuff in their “slots.”

3-Way Tie (For James Last) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/e6INzqs.jpg

47. Elvis Presley - “It's Now Or Never” 128 points, 7 votes

droit au butt (Euler), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

Any Day Now was my #1. For me it's the pinnacle of the American Studios sessions. The band came up with an unbeatable arrangement (I love Reggie Young's descending intro lick), and Elvis's vocal is impeccable. BTW, Ronnie Milsap was working out of Memphis at the time, appearing nightly at a club called TJs, and Elvis went to see him several times. Milsap recorded over a dozen sides at American and was also a background singer on the Elvis sessions. He did a fine version of the song but doesn't communicate anguish like Elvis does.

― Ρεμπετολογια, Monday, July 30, 2018 2:10 PM


RIP, Ρεμπετολογια.

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

Did Ρεμπετολογια die? otherwise I am confused:(

Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link

Yes, sorry. Rolling Obituary Thread: 2020

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 May 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

oh wow. I don't normally look at that thread. RIP indeed

Joey Corona (Euler), Sunday, 24 May 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Bunch of these showing up in one of my Made For You algorithmic playlists. I must have been revisiting last summer.

Two Spocks Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

Unless the algorithm mixes various summers together and is reaching back to years past.

Two Spocks Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 July 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

this poll only getting 19 ballots taught me a good lesson about the alleged breadth of ILM listeners. it's nevertheless a good music message board, but in essence a pavement fan club. RIP

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 4 July 2020 13:42 (three years ago) link

Yup. Same for this POLL: Wishin' and Votin' - the BURT BACHARACH SONGBOOK Poll Results, speaking of Ρεμπετολογια's #1, "Any Day Now."

Two Spocks Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

yeah, that one too.

I listened to Lonnie Mack's "Memphis" earlier today, speaking of something we talked about on this thread.

Joey Corona (Euler), Saturday, 4 July 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

listening to the s/t debut and thinking about scotty moore's 25 watt echosonic, which is discussed in detail here with lots of interesting photos:

http://www.scottymoore.net/echosonic.html

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

this poll only getting 19 ballots

still regret not finding the time to do a ballot :/

budo jeru, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

here too

singular wolf erotica producer (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

here too

here three

birdistheword, Sunday, 11 October 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

i’d love to do this rollout again & comment some more on the tracks - i really enjoyed this poll & still love nothing more than talking about the King

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 11 October 2020 06:19 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

i’d love to do this rollout again & comment some more on the tracks - i really enjoyed this poll & still love nothing more than talking about the King

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:19 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm up for this

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

two months pass...
one year passes...

Sock a little polk salad to me.
Don’t you know I need a meal.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 July 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

“Steamroller Blues” released as a streaming single yesterday. The Aloha from Hawaii version that is, don’t know from the Royal Philharmonic version.

CeeLô Borges (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 10 June 2023 12:20 (ten months ago) link


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