Delayed Due To Projection Issues - the 2017 ILX Film Poll Results Thread

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uh I'm sure you're just trying to be brief in an internetty sort of way but you should've foregone that in this case

devops mom (silby), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

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7. Call Me By Your Name
d: Luca Guadagnino w: James Ivory
243 points, 14 votes, 1 #1

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

well that is about 5 places lower than expected

lovely movie. gay fantasy? liberal arts fantasy? it's the italian holiday experience, hyperrealised

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

For whoever else who doesn't care to read through my Facebook longtypes:

1. Elio's character was a stereotype of a privileged young white gay man-- an avatar for that cancer within the gay community, which is, in short, The Ideal Version Of A Gay Man-- young, white, cute, rich, confident, starved for cock-- the Ideal Version Of A Gay Man that makes not-young, not-white, not-cute, not-rich, not-confident, not-cock-starved gay individuals feel worthless

2. Elio's disconsolate nature-- "oh, we have to suffer through these summers in Italy"-- was insulting and made him, to me, an unsympathetic character-- by the end of the movie, when he's literally crying at the camera, I'm wondering: "what about Elio is meant to compel me to continue watching this movie, if not his young, cute, rich, confident, starved-for-cock whiteness?"-- even friends of mine reaching out to me about "should I see this movie?"-- I'd say "no, pass on it"-- they'd respond "but the young actor is SO HOT"

3. The dialogue was poorly written to the extreme. It was so continuously, terribly awful that I figured that James Ivory was able to force this project into production

4. The scenario of this movie-- a 17-year old cockslut seduces an older visiting grad student-- was essentially the plot line of a porno, or more specifically, a yaoi manga-- and yet this movie offered none of the erotic satisfaction of a porn-- the best scenes were the ones where Armie Hammer monologues about the etymology of the word "apricot"-- and there was one long shot of them motoring off into the distance that was nice too-- but yeah, it felt nearly identical to a porno but with no actual payoff

5. Italy looked ugly, the female characters were props, the chain smoking mom seemed like an extra from a Morrissey song, Elio's female lover was debased over breakfast ("I almost had sex with (girl) last night"), even the professor dad confesses that he too! had faggoty tendencies, the only shot of food was a boiled egg, that Psychedelic Furs song repeated itself more times than I can count, Armie Hammer can't act

Basically I thought TimothΓ©e Chalemet was pretty good tho

But yeah especially in comparison to "Moonlight" this felt risible, the fact that it's getting praised to the high heavens makes me feel like nobody is immune to empathizing with the plight of a young white cutegay-- and it makes me even more frustrated that we face twenty-to-fifty more years more of "Whites Only, Please" on people's Grindr pages

― flamboyant goon tie included, 7 January 2018

Having lived for a year in L.A. and seeing what the proximity-to-the-film-and-porn-industry does to non-white non-cute non-young gay men in that city (i.e. it segregates them, devalues them, and creates this fucking nightmare-pool of weirdness), I saw this movie as further propaganda to the primacy of the young white gay male form within the gay aesthetic value system

In short, I thought this film was dangerous and insulting and I shit on it

― flamboyant goon tie included, 7 January 2018

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

<3 fgti's take tbh

I Never Promised You A Hose Harden (Eric H.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:16 (five years ago) link

😴

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

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6. The Florida Project
d: Sean Baker w: Sean Baker & Chris Bergoch
264 points, 17 votes

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

For awhile, yes, Alfred is right that the movie takes for granted that "these horrifying children are charming little dears" and, left-field quips aside, not remotely convincing. Eventually, it settles into truly expert "everyone has their reasons" territory -- many moments of unforced efficiency. (Am thinking of the interlude with Willem Dafoe's son, I think, saying he doesn't want to "do this anymore," and also clearly understanding why Dafoe's character feels compelled to continue. And how the sudden pattern of bathtime play interludes gently invites the audience into a new and unpleasant plot point.)
And it has a knack for portraying squalor in a way that makes it clear how adults can see their environment one way and kids another way entirely. But one of the movie's most obvious but well-realized examples -- the birthday fireworks a half-mile away from the real show -- just underscored how the abrupt ending didn't fucking work. After Tangerine, which had one of my favorite endings in recent years, this was a damp squib. Even taking into consideration how it brings "reality" crashing into a 6-year-old girl's life so violently she has nowhere to turn to but desperate fantasy. But the movie's a lot stronger when it sticks to things like the tourists' helicopter endlessly taking off: exciting to kids, a slap in the face to the destitute adults.
Still, I'll refrain from calling any filmmaker willing to devote serious career energies into depicting the American underclass condescending until we actually have anything remotely like an appropriate proportion of filmmakers devoting serious career energies into depicting the American underclass.

― Eric H., Monday, October 23, 2017

Watched this a week after Happy End and thought Haneke would get the mom to go on a killing spree at the nicer hotel - I suppose that would follow Morbs' they were just a bunch of shits hot take. Me and the friend I was with thought it would be a better ending.

― xyzzzz__, December 7, 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

oh good -- my most hated movie of 2017, yay!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

awful movie.. bad work ilx.

calzino, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

this is another fakeout?

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

Cmbyn was my #6, but struggling to remember what I particularly liked about it. fgti's post seems completely otm.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

fgti's post is otm if you're viewing it as a gay movie but it's a holiday movie

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

<3 Florida project, screenshot speaks for itself imo

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

frfr

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

even when fgti is otm in that post, he's still wrong

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

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5. Personal Shopper
w/d: Olivier Assayas
275 points, 14 votes, 4 #1s

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

I would say this is minor but it's not not top-drawer. His movies offer such unique pleasures it's hard for me to be too objective about them. I savor/anticipate them so. The crowd I saw it with was terrible and didn't seem to enjoy or even "get" the movie. I would love for him to widen his scope a bit more next time. Stewart is a great muse though.

― MFB, 20 March 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

<3

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

CMBYN tied in well with reading The Line Of Beauty recently too - especially that book's wonderful France segment. now there's something due a proper film treatment

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

I feel like this came out 3 years ago and I still haven’t seen it

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

there's definitely been a poll screwup btw - money is on sic basically looking at tt and i's #1 and #2 (which were the same, in opposite order) and just disqualifying them

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

I liked it, but 4 #1's?

Chris L, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

Ah jeez is Jedi in the top 5

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link

Oh wait no I think I know the top 4

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

Kristen's jumpers in this are a dream. Assayas does loneliness very well.

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

I can't imagine one person enjoying The Florida Project that much, let alone 17.

Police, Academy (cryptosicko), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:37 (five years ago) link

3 of the top 4 are obvious. unless PT Threaderson is 2018, in which case....???...

Florida Project is a total fakeout

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

surely the obvious three and the other pattinson

devvvine, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:40 (five years ago) link

the other pattinson IS one of the three

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

loved PS

as for TFP There has been a 8th birthday party next door today, that never seemed to end. if only someone could have filmed it with oodles of class condescension and edited it into an unrelenting load of headache inducing shite that plays on single parent benefits scum cliches. sorry, but I hated it.

calzino, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

there's definitely been a poll screwup btw - money is on sic basically looking at tt and i's #1 and #2 (which were the same, in opposite order) and just disqualifying them

tt's votes were counted, everything above your 9 minute youtube video was disqualified on karmic grounds

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link

personal shopper probably the high water mark for shooting people on their phones

devvvine, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:43 (five years ago) link

except for maybe a bride for rip van winkle

devvvine, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

hang on

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

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4. Lady Bird
w/d: Greta Gerwig
295 points, 17 votes (2 #2s)

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

Damn even Armond White liked this

― omar little, November 20, 2017

Chalamet is resourceful enough an actor (and Gerwig gives him the space) to remind us why we found selfish dicks hot as fuck.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, November 20, 2017

Saw this tonight. I liked the last third better than the first hour--which is good, I'd rather have a film end strong. Favourite two things were the scene where Lois Smith suggested love = attention, and also Lady Bird's voiceover about driving around Sacramento (and the matching shots of her and her mom behind the wheel). I'm always moved by scenes where someone gets an acceptance letter in the mail for university--think I could name a half-dozen other good ones. And proms, I guess because I didn't go my own. I kind of wish Laurie Metcalf hadn't been given a milder version of the Mary Tyler Moore role from Ordinary People. She's just so funny on Roseanne; I missed that.

― clemenza, Monday, November 20, 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:46 (five years ago) link

my favorite screamo song of the year is the last minute or so this all-screaming version of the Lady Bird trailer

I now present to you, the Lady Bird trailer, but I scream every word... pic.twitter.com/4W0BfwTZz9

— toni (@chalametweekes) January 26, 2018

― Simon H., Sunday, 28 January 2018 15:37 (five months ago)

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

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3. Good Time
d: The Safdie Brothers w: One Safdie Brother & Ron Bronstein
333 points, 20 votes, 1 #1

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

they were big fans of using the n word in college so this really feels like their moment

― etaeoe, 25 August 2017

they were obsessed with the wire and one of them (b4n iirc) needed to be talked out of dressing up as omar for halloween

― etaeoe, 25 August 2017

also big fans of slam poetry

― etaeoe, 25 August 2017

Dick Gregory said you shd never call it "the N word"

― Dr Morbius, 25 August 2017

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

First year when my picks + ILX's top ten almost line up

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

this managed to be kinetic, idiotic and sweet all at once. might not be great but it worked

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

also the end is tearjerking out of nowhere

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 21:59 (five years ago) link

tt's votes were counted, everything above your 9 minute youtube video was disqualified on karmic grounds

:o I'll make sure this never happens again

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:00 (five years ago) link

i am saving my big grump-out at sic for later btw but be assured it is coming

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

Did you guys vote for the dyson video or something

jeremy cmbyn (wins), Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

my #2, loved this

devvvine, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:01 (five years ago) link

no, it's that double king thing

which wouldn't have even made the poll if sic had not disqualified the two things above it ok ok i'll stop

imago, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link

I voted for that lawn chairs thing

tangenttangent, Thursday, 26 July 2018 22:02 (five years ago) link


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