Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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"we didn't do it for $$$" is def disingenuous but I would be surprised if the book is anywhere near as lucrative as touring or (strictly in their case) podcasting, esp as profits are split many more ways (not just the publisher but also the illustrators - Eli Valley etc)

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:39 (five years ago) link

‘We’re not doing this to make money’ - oh fuck off

― louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:22 PM

i too took every word of their statement at face value

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 18:40 (five years ago) link

Since they've proposed buying the book to own the cons over and over I don't think it's quite as irony drenched as you want to think.

louise ck (milo z), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

ehh, some fascist sheriff will probably release a book the same week and stay at #1 the rest of the summer

President Keyes, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

Sure, if sales go astronomical, it’s possible the publisher and the show will make something back.

umm unless they took a monster advance, it will be pretty easy for both the publisher & the show to make something back on this.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 20:46 (five years ago) link

Since they've proposed buying the book to own the cons over and over I don't think it's quite as irony drenched as you want to think.


I didn’t say they were doing it just for money, but why not have both?

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:22 (five years ago) link

Tim Faust called into our podcast ep on Medicare for All. He really _is_ that great.

https://soundcloud.com/givingthemic/organizing-for-medicare-for-allwith-riley-brann-and-tim-faust

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 19 July 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

tiiiiiiiiiiim

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 19 July 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

He’s speaking in Eugene tonight and Portland tomorrow night

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 19 July 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

Really kind of burnt out on these guys. I keep listening because i haven’t found my next fix but often don’t finish episodes. They served a much more important and cathartic function for me before Trump won.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 20 July 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

I have been enjoying the show more since I stopped giving them money lol

I've tried out probably two dozen other lefty podcasts that have spawned in its wake and tbh none of them are as reliably entertaining to me. The closest is probably either Champagne Sharks or Struggle Session. (I will be listening to yours tho kingfish!) People who haven't ttried 'casting may not get that doing it well and consistently is actually not that easy!

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link

I'm getting more into Street Fight lately. Finding it easier to connect with flyover dirtbag dads than NY media people.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link

Street Fight is great and the clear grandaddy for this whole phenomenon, I just can't keep up with their output!

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:12 (five years ago) link

I’ve been liking the recent Dig eps. I like hearing about strategy and policy and not just theory although that’s important too.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:22 (five years ago) link

The Dig is nice to dip into every once in a while, it's just a tad too NPR Left for me

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:51 (five years ago) link

I've been obsessing over tone, form and stuff because I'm recording the trial ep of a pod about the intersection of tech + politics in a few weeks with some v smart friends of mine and I would really like it to not suck lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 20 July 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

yet another ep where they talk over women way too much, first Will interrupting Karina Moreno with flat out wrong information (and Brendan at least interrupting her with someone informed thoughts), followed by Matt not shutting the fuck up with his unfunny generic english guy impression so we can hear Amber's account of what actually sounds like an interesting trip, at which point I just turned it off

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:01 (five years ago) link

i liked ashley feinberg on it a lot, but they really didn't sell her jokes

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 20 July 2018 17:13 (five years ago) link

I feel like they constantly talk over each other in general and it stands out more with women because there are fewer of them, but tbh as a producer crosstalk quietly infuriates me so maybe I'm just not picking up on the gendered aspect amidst my generalized annoyance

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, 20 July 2018 17:17 (five years ago) link

lmao at Felix's line about Trump having "minotaur dysphoria"

flappy bird, Friday, 20 July 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

"just try and get out of my maze"

flappy bird, Friday, 20 July 2018 17:43 (five years ago) link

Tiger Mom being a guide to furry parenting was a good oen

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Friday, 20 July 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

lol yes

flappy bird, Friday, 20 July 2018 17:45 (five years ago) link

Chapo Trap House Wikipedia article edited anonymously from US House of Representatives https://t.co/TxDTBW9f0N pic.twitter.com/vau6BO7xBi

— congress-edits (@congressedits) July 20, 2018

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 July 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

Hey @brianschatz, we can see you. https://t.co/qAJbLA28hc

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) July 20, 2018

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 20 July 2018 19:04 (five years ago) link

I feel like they constantly talk over each other in general and it stands out more with women because there are fewer of them, but tbh as a producer crosstalk quietly infuriates me so maybe I'm just not picking up on the gendered aspect amidst my generalized annoyance

― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Friday, July 20, 2018 12:17 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that's def part of it. It's also more generally annoying when Matt and Felix can't tone it down and let the conversation flow because they have to just keep interjecting with their schtick.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Friday, 20 July 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

Felix has gotten better while Will and Matt have gotten worse about that.

louise ck (milo z), Friday, 20 July 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

They need to bring back the talking stick(vhs box of Police Academy)

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 20 July 2018 23:50 (five years ago) link

xp You're right, I haven't thought about that until now but wow it's a lot different than a year ago.

flappy bird, Saturday, 21 July 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

lmao the talking stick does need to come back

flappy bird, Saturday, 21 July 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

They're gonna need an entire other book just to decompress from Ozyfest

Have you ever wanted to tune in, drop out, and groove to the smooth sounds of Mark Sanford projecting US debt service payments over the next decade? #OzyFest is for you.

— Matt Christman (@cushbomb) July 21, 2018

Also, Boots said he's going on.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 21 July 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

I love Boots so much I'm kind of dreading that tbh. They'll need a taser to keep Felix from taking about Soundcloud rappers.

louise ck (milo z), Sunday, 22 July 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link

lmao this article is absolutely brutal https://t.co/4YXyk9bcac pic.twitter.com/3yRZpxsXyB

— Alex Press (@alexnpress) July 23, 2018

haha the second photo in this article has @cushbomb nicely framed in the background, tripping pic.twitter.com/jsISksvPug

— amir and fidelito stan (@alexjs85) July 23, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 23 July 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

Some really good lines in the Ozyfest one, thankfully not just dumbfounded rage. "Our new media digital platform is all about connecting falcons with falconers!"

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 18:59 (five years ago) link

I am just shocked to learn that WaPo piece was written by a dude.

evol j, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:05 (five years ago) link

felix is on the non-subscriber "yeah but still" ep released today (the brandon wardell/jack wagner pod)

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:09 (five years ago) link

I am just shocked to learn that WaPo piece was written by a dude.

why?

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:16 (five years ago) link

come on you know why. not respecting sister/abuela hilary sufficiently

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

What year is it? Who is the current president?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

yeah, a good thing to ask the dead-enders for sure

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:40 (five years ago) link

Jamie Peck is writing a piece on it for Rolling Stone if you're this concerned about gender

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:45 (five years ago) link

that sounds awful

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:47 (five years ago) link

We have a fascist president and they actually made the effort to be physically present for a Hillary appearance to get mad about it. Were any of the Chapo guys at the family separation protests last month? How about any of the fan boys here?

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

I literally had never heard of her before today. xp

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:52 (five years ago) link

NP, go and browse the CTH subreddit if you like and search for "protest," "action," "demo," "occupy ICE," etc if you're curious about how politically active their fanbase is.

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

We have a fascist president and they actually made the effort to be physically present for a Hillary appearance to get mad about it.

Their commentary on Hillary is about 1/10th of discussing the rest of the festival.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

Maybe less - felt like five minutes in an 80 minute episode.

louise ck (milo z), Monday, 23 July 2018 19:56 (five years ago) link

xp did you get lost on the way to the CTH fan reddit or something?

afaict the podcast is about perception of politics and the political media as much as anything, and covering a festival that's sponsored/owned by some of the same people that own The Atlantic and other political news media seems like an obvious move

mh, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

sorry, xp to Nerdstrom there

mh, Monday, 23 July 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

Um, Chapo Trap House had an entire bonus ep on Occupy ICE. I can't speak to whether any of them attended a protest but it seems likely.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Monday, 23 July 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link


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