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Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti hasn't said he won't run yet. I suspect he'll do about as well as Jeb! did if he tries.

nickn, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Inslee isn't term limited and he would probably coast to reelection in 2020 so I don't know why he would run for president. I'd bet on Bob Ferguson over him, if I were picking Washington state people to run for president.

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 23:37 (five years ago) link

Merkley's started his own PAC for electing Democrats in 2018 and my wife and I decided to feed his kitty for a hundred bucks. We figure it couldn't hurt him to have chits to call in later on, whether or not he shoots the moon on a presidential run in 2020.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

Is Adam Schiff ever mentioned? I like him whenever's he on CNN. He's quite boring and would make a good president, I think.

this is a wonderfully Canadian sentiment and I applaud it. Alas, no, he wouldn't stand a chance.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 01:00 (five years ago) link

Can't help but read "we could use a boring president again" as "can't wait till I can safely not give a shit about politics while the world burns down in a quieter fashion"

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:19 (five years ago) link

Yeah you shouldn’t actually

Nerdstrom Poindexter, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link

But it's a reference to something something Palestine, no?

― Frederik B

it's "begin reagan palestine"

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

inslee pres bid gets talked abt for “attack dog” vp, ferguson vs constantine for wa gov. all imo acourse

alomar lines, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 05:05 (five years ago) link

it's "begin reagan palestine"

Birthday party cheesecake jelly bean boom

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 14:57 (five years ago) link

Biden is good in a room and he does the hardhat thing well. But do you really think re-litigating '08-'16 is the way to win?

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) July 25, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

Can't help but read "we could use a boring president again" as "can't wait till I can safely not give a shit about politics while the world burns down in a quieter fashion"

― Simon H., Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:19 AM (one week ago)

go to hell, btw

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

i only take political advice from twitter parody accounts impersonating dead traitors

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Wednesday, 25 July 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

Most of the presidents considered 'boring' by Americans have dropped bombs on or invaded other countries. Or instigated coups de etat. Even hapless Gerald Ford presided over the last gasps of the US Vietnam debacle. Whichever country Jimmy Carter bombed escapes me at the moment, but I am certain one exists.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

Well there was the failed Iran hostage rescue

Οὖτις, Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:07 (five years ago) link

When Carter sent arms to the Afghan mujahedeen against the USSR invasion, he undoubtedly sent military personnel, too. But on the whole, history's greatest monster probably was the least bellicose President since Hoover. No wonder he left office reviled and mocked by the conservatives.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 July 2018 01:17 (five years ago) link

yeah if Biden won next time liberals could go back to sleep for 4 years, as Dennis Perrin says

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 02:24 (five years ago) link

lookit rushomancy pullin' out "traitor" retrospectively! damn, libs be on the firing range now.

(spare me the Vietnam lesson, chump, i was alive)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 02:26 (five years ago) link

What, does Perrin slip you a ten spot every time you invoke his name or something? Maybe he'll do you a solid and say something worth repeating one day.

Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 July 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

(luv u, boo)

Things To Do For Dinner When You're Dad (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 July 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

“Carter was the least violent of American presidents but he did things which I think would certainly fall under Nuremberg provisions,” said Noam Chomsky.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/18/jimmy-carters-blood-drenched-legacy/

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

you can measure every true leftist by how fast they rush to point out that jimmy carter was Just As Bad As Every Other President (see, they've got this noam chomsky interview where he says so!)

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 04:19 (five years ago) link

and you can measure stooges by their handwaving of imperial support for slaughter

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:09 (five years ago) link

(I know you didn't read the article, J.D., as it's not a Chomsky interview and because you're you, but it also lists a Bunch of Good Things That Jimmy Carter Did)

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

dude could totally rock a cardigan I hear

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 July 2018 12:19 (five years ago) link

lookit rushomancy pullin' out "traitor" retrospectively! damn, libs be on the firing range now.

(spare me the Vietnam lesson, chump, i was alive)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius)

it wasn't known at the time, but his backchannel machinations aimed at sabotaging lbj's peace talks with north vietnam in '68 qualify as that in my book.

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 July 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

i've read the article before, i'm pointing out that citing chomsky as if he's some grand old historian of american history (instead of an important linguist whose offhand cranky opinions about politics invariably inform his historical pronouncements, such as the idea that the cuban missile crisis was all our fault, the cold war was all our fault, the war in the pacific was all our fault -- gee, notice a pattern here?) is a bad idea.

funny to see online leftists get so upset about the word "traitor." are we still allowed to call robert e lee a traitor? maybe not on counterpunch, where half the articles seem to come from right-wing libertarians.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

previous articles by matt peppe, expert on the carter administration:

Media Promote Baseless Assertions By Government Officials Of Russian Interference As Facts

The New York Times’s Biased Obituary of Fidel Castro

Media More Outraged by Possible Murder by Putin Than Definite Murder by Obama

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 July 2018 17:47 (five years ago) link

what are his errors about Carter's presidency? don't answer.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:17 (five years ago) link

Carter's not running in 2020, is he?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

He could! His politics are better now than when he was president.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

how bout we try just not having a president? that could be cool.

evol j, Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:56 (five years ago) link

we're fairly close right now

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:57 (five years ago) link

is Rosalynn too old to run

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 July 2018 18:58 (five years ago) link

nice "if" there

Every American deserves to have a roof over their head and keep the lights on if they work a full-time job. pic.twitter.com/GHhD7PsXqh

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) July 29, 2018

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:12 (five years ago) link

really keepin yr eyes on the prize eh

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:14 (five years ago) link

I mean, Morbs is right here, in that that precondition is bullshit. But in the meantime, there's plenty of ppl inveighing against even that milquetoast proposition all over the country, i.e. business interests pushing against $15 minimum wages. (Which, in Seattle, still qualifies you for income-restricted housing, if you can find a unit.)

devops mom (silby), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:18 (five years ago) link

this kind of bullshit is totally counterproductive and we all know it

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:28 (five years ago) link

the opposition is absolutely gleeful at our predilection for making the perfect the enemy of the good - let's indulge them one more time, maybe it'll work out at last!

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

I'm not saying don't vote for Kamala Harris, I'm saying still also promote the idea that maybe everyone deserves a safe, autonomous, healthy life no matter how much they care to work.

devops mom (silby), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

watching the video I don't feel like the point was "if they work a full time job" so much as "every american deserves a roof over their head and to keep the lights on"

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

last two posts otm

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I don't think there's any disputing that Gillibrand is the least horrible candidate with any likelihood of getting the nomination (right now, anyway)

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

I'd be happy to vote for her

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

dunno if she'd drive african american turnout like Kamala would but that's electoral politics for ya

Οὖτις, Monday, 30 July 2018 21:57 (five years ago) link

I like them both, would vote for either of them

Dan S, Monday, 30 July 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

I'm totally on board with people voting for Harris, but that's a horrible message, and does the GOPs job for them of moving the goalposts ever rightward.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

A rare morbs otm

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 July 2018 22:57 (five years ago) link

Whether it's Harris or Gillibrand or someone else, it's always better to have a sympathetic ear in the Oval Office than a punitive, vindictive manifestation of right wing radio. Any realistic Dem contender in 2020 is pushable to the left, and some are already demonstrating that two years out.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 30 July 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link

It’s the sort of thing that only someone who is triangulating would say.

devops mom (silby), Monday, 30 July 2018 23:48 (five years ago) link


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