SORRY TO BOTHER YOU (dir. Boots Riley, 2018)

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yeah, Get Out would have been a lot better if it had no racial element and instead was a 15 second movie about a girl casually checking her computer and eating cereal and we don't see what she's looking up

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:33 (five years ago) link

Those are the options, true

albvivertine, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

"i was intrigued by this satire on race in america, but have recently heard things that suggest it may have been completely derailed by including a discussion of race in america. ughhhh it's like get over it already!!!!!"

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:13 (five years ago) link

"i figured the 'white voice' scenes in the trailer referred to telemarketers imitating Betty White. not into all this racial commentary but i do loves me some #GoldenGirls #spiritguide #betrayed"

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

anyway "America's obsession with race" is a weird way to say "the centuries-long cultural impact and intergenerational trauma of American chattel slavery"

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:19 (five years ago) link

I do like Whiney's movie pitch, though I think it'd be better as a seven hour version, turn up the volume on the cereal

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:20 (five years ago) link

Alison Williams Eats Cereal While Posting About America's Obsession With Race Mechanical Keyboard 4 hours ASMR

devops mom (silby), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link

I have to admit I found the pro-TSA sentiment in Get Out disturbing.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:24 (five years ago) link

it was pro tsa worker not pro tsa. very different things

maura, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:30 (five years ago) link

yeah, pretty sure the fact that Rod the TSA Agent saves the day in Get Out was a joke about how useless TSA is in real life.

ant banks and wasp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 21:34 (five years ago) link

Slavery isn't something that can ever be forgiven/recovered from. So, move on. Stop trying to deal with it, it can't be. Shit happened. I live in a country where English colonists invaded and didn't much respect the native ppl, we've lived with it. It isn't great but it is what it is.

albvivertine, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

Otoh be sarcastic on the internet to other white ppl

albvivertine, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:30 (five years ago) link

Keep going

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:34 (five years ago) link

Oh pls you thought Get Out was going to win best movie

albvivertine, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

The famous best movie award

devops mom (silby), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:43 (five years ago) link

The fuck is wrong with you albvivertine

Anyway I enjoyed this, warts and all. Wish Yeun and Thompson's parts were improved or excised.

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

Who cares, Ilx has its mind made up

albvivertine, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:06 (five years ago) link

...about racism?

kelp, clam and carrion (sic), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

FPed albviviterine, sorry not sorry to whoever's sock this is

This is a total Jeff Porcaro. (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:59 (five years ago) link

couldn't help but find the movie extra timely considering the images coming out of Spain

Spain: Amazon Workers on Strike Attacked by National Police https://t.co/hljQT2ICoM

— #August21 (@HalfAtlanta) July 19, 2018

Simon H., Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:36 (five years ago) link

Yikes

flappy bird, Thursday, 19 July 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

Some common sense from @BootsRiley pic.twitter.com/tSeHciNbr4

— Conor Gillies (@conorgillies) July 19, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Saturday, 21 July 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

that's well said

the bhagwanadook (symsymsym), Saturday, 21 July 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link

Very

flappy bird, Saturday, 21 July 2018 04:55 (five years ago) link

soundtrack album is really good

maura, Saturday, 28 July 2018 15:31 (five years ago) link

"i brought all kinds of weapons"
"it ain't that serious, man. it's serious...not THAT serious"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 July 2018 15:37 (five years ago) link

In the Q&A he did after our screening, Boots mentioned that Squeeze and Detroit had a good deal more conversation film but it got cut

Also that the manager of the telemarketing place had an anarchy tattoo on his neck because the Boots’ own manager back then had one and was in(or managed?) the band Neurosis

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 28 July 2018 15:58 (five years ago) link

This movie reminds me of so many classic Boots lyrics

"I used to work at Mickey D's
To my old busta ass manager, LICKY DEEZ!"

"I asked him why I couldn't get mo hours
He said it must be cause I lacked the mental powers
If I was smart then I would be in his position
I left his nose in a busted up condition"

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 July 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

"two inches to the left of Trump" will be fine with many ilxors

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 July 2018 23:59 (five years ago) link

good quick read w/ Boots on the history of the American left

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/27/17620246/boots-riley-sorry-to-bother-you-history-of-the-left-interview

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Sunday, 29 July 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

oh def, I really assumed workfree was mainly about conditions in amazon express-shipping facilities and so on. arguably the lifetime-contract thing is what the movie really gets wrong: the trend is towards making labor more disposable, part-time, and precarious, not locked-in for life.... not a major problem tho. i do wish hammer got a line about like "hey these people all signed contracts, it's an equal agreement" or w/e. big part of that whole ideology that cd be made explicit.

WorryFree reminded me of the alleged practices of Sea Org, except operating openly and with sufficient legislators bought to make their practices legal. But its real roots, apart from American chattel slavery, is the workhouse tradition of the U.K. and probably other countries. I know that the Salvation Army and other religious organizations have been accused of exploiting the labor of people they are supposedly serving.

Am I correct in not finding any trace of religion in this movie, either as a tool of the ruling class or a traditional support for African-American communities?

Also, LOL at "Michel Dongry."

Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Friday, 3 August 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

Man, this was an ugly mess. Interesting, audacious, but ugly. Repo Man comparisons OFFTM. The satire was second-rate Harrison Bergeron in subtlety, and the interesting unionizing stuff got trounced under dirty heehaw bits.

rb (soda), Saturday, 4 August 2018 00:35 (five years ago) link

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— Nicky Smith (@nickyotissmith) August 5, 2018

flappy bird, Sunday, 5 August 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

they're... not really the same

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

they're both set in Oakland, case closed

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

i didn't get the sense the movie was interested in world building as much as it was trying to show what present day oakland looks like.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

-Philip Nunez
Posted: July 17, 2018 at 12:19:47 AM

flappy bird, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:47 (five years ago) link

Blindspotting is the fleshed out sociopolitical realism that STBY veers into in between the heavily stylized genre stuff

flappy bird, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:48 (five years ago) link

the humour and satire were really bad, but visually it seemed p inspired

flopson, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

in terms of the political critique it felt like it could have come out before 2008

flopson, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:12 (five years ago) link

Boots did say he wrote it during the 1st Obama Admin

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

likewise with Blindspotting, which was written by the two stars over a decade ago

flappy bird, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 00:17 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Basically the same reaction as the Joaquin Phoenix film earlier this year: "What the hell did I just see?" Intriguing, to say the least (and pretty amazing for a director's debut, whatever you think about it). I think it might be a Trump film, but I don't know--want to go back and read some reviews now.

clemenza, Monday, 27 August 2018 13:41 (five years ago) link

Just noticed the two comments above. I guess any connection to Trump--I had Armie Hammer in mind, obviously, but just kind of reflexively, without a great deal of thought--would be purely accidental.

clemenza, Monday, 27 August 2018 13:45 (five years ago) link

Trump is a byproduct of the same economic and social conditions that drove this film. I see above that Riley wrote the screenplay during the Obama administration, but when did this movie go into production?

Accattony! Accattoni! Accattoné! (j.lu), Monday, 27 August 2018 13:49 (five years ago) link

Principal photography began on June 22, 2017, in Oakland, California and concluded on July 30, 2017.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 August 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

Met a (white, decently well-off) lady this weekend who hated this movie for how "dystopian" and "negative" it was, lol

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 27 August 2018 14:45 (five years ago) link

since Riley is saying in interviews "Trump has already pushed Dems to the right" I don't think he tailored this to who's in office.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 27 August 2018 14:48 (five years ago) link

But the equisapiens were just about to kill the bad guy--it's very uplifting. (xpost)

clemenza, Monday, 27 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link


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