D'AWWWWCTOPUS: post yr images of adorable octopuses here (no squid allowed)

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that is a reasonable compromise, or, if you will, a squid pro quo

nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:52 (five years ago) link

my beautiful thread, ruined

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

eight arms to fp u

BIG RICHARD ENERGY (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 13:56 (five years ago) link

What's a few arms between friends?

Abercromb Metrion Finchos (Leee), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 17:19 (five years ago) link

*_*

Abercromb Metrion Finchos (Leee), Friday, 20 July 2018 15:38 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

OCTOPUSES IN KILLER RAVE DRUG SHOCK

When humans take the drug MDMA, versions of which are known as molly or ecstasy, they commonly feel very happy, extraverted, and particularly interested in physical touch. A group of scientists recently wondered whether this drug might have a similar effect on other species—specifically, octopuses, which are seemingly as different from humans as an animal can be. The results of their experiment, in which seven octopuses took MDMA, were “unbelievable.”

Just think about an octopus—other than their impressive intelligence, they have little in common with humans. We’ve been heading along different branches of the evolutionary tree for 500 million years. Rather than one localized brain with a cortex, or a highly folded outer layer like our brains have, an octopus’s decentralized nervous system includes control centers for each arm in addition to a brain.

Given how different we are, Gül Dölen and her colleague Eric Edsinger wondered whether the chemistry behind human social behaviors—the system controlling the serotonin molecule—also existed in the solitary, asocial octopus. They began by analyzing the octopus genome, and found that octopuses, too, have genes that seem to code for serotonin transporters, proteins responsible for moving serotonin molecules into brain cells. Serotonin is the molecule generally considered to be responsible for feeling good. When humans take MDMA, it binds to serotonin transporter proteins and changes the way serotonin travels between brain cells, likely producing the warm and fuzzy high and perhaps the increased extraversion that the drug is known for.

The fun began when the researchers gave MDMA to seven Octopus bimaculoides octopuses inside laboratory tanks. They hoped to test whether the animals behaved more socially after receiving a dose of MDMA—a sign that the drug bound to their serotonin transporters.

After hanging out in a bath containing ecstasy, the animals moved to a chamber with three rooms to pick from: a central room, one containing a male octopus and another containing a toy. This is a setup frequently used in mice studies. Before MDMA, the octopuses avoided the male octopus. But after the MDMA bath, they spent more time with the other octopus, according to the study published in Current Biology. They also touched the other octopus in what seemed to be an exploratory, rather than aggressive, manner.

The scientists took this to mean that despite our vastly different brains, social behavior is built into the very molecules coded by our DNA, Dölen explained.

“An octopus doesn’t have a cortex, and doesn’t have a reward circuit,” Dölen, assistant professor of neuroscience at Johns Hopkins University, told Gizmodo. “And yet it’s able to respond to MDMA and produce the same effects, in an animal with a totally different brain organization. To me, that means we really need to appreciate that the business end of these things is at the level of the molecule.”

You’re probably curious: did the octopuses freak out? The scientists didn’t discuss such behavior in the paper, because it’s hard to quantify without anthropomorphizing the octopuses—Dölen warned me that the following is anecdotal evidence and not scientific observation. But yes, the octopuses acted like they took ecstasy. At first, when they received a little too much MDMA, they breathed erratically and turned white. But on lower doses, one animal “looked like it was doing water ballet,” swimming around with outstretched arms. Another spent part of the time doing flips, and another seemed especially interested in minor sounds and smells.

“This was such an incredible paper, with a completely unexpected and almost unbelievable outcome,” Judit Pungor, a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Oregon not involved in the study, told Gizmodo. “To think that an animal whose brain evolved completely independently from our own reacts behaviorally in the same way that we do to a drug is absolutely amazing.”

There are limitations to the study, of course. Dölen pointed out that seven octopuses isn’t a large enough sample size to show differences between how males and females react to MDMA. She’d like to further test the changes in behavior, as well as what happens if they block the serotonin transmitter before giving the MDMA. Such a test would convince Dölen that she was really seeing the affects of MDMA on serotonin transporters. Pungor also wanted to test whether the drug would have different effects on octopuses of varying ages, or whether an octopus’s upbringing changed its sociality.

It’s clear that psychoactive drugs like MDMA, LSD, and magic mushrooms are going through a scientific renaissance—they’re being studied as potential treatments for depression and PTSD—and as their stigma decreases, scientists are more open to studying them, and more research funding becomes available. This could be important for our understanding of animal and human brains.

“People are beginning to recognize that these drugs are powerful tools for understanding how the brain evolved,” Dölen told Gizmodo. “They’re such strong activators of these behaviors. It’s not subtle.”

https://gizmodo.com/scientists-gave-mdma-to-octopuses-and-what-happened-was-1829191638

The results of their experiment, in which seven octopuses took MDMA, were “unbelievable.”

got this far & c+p’d to say I bet I find the results 100% super-believable

Gibing The Amethyst (sic), Friday, 21 September 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

the scientists missed a trick by not playing the octopuses a selection of bangin' tunes imo

as an octopus rights advocate. I'd like to do a few tests on the MDMA they are using, just make sure it is up to lab quality standards!

calzino, Friday, 21 September 2018 08:55 (five years ago) link

PLUR.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:47 (seven months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

imago, Friday, 21 September 2018 09:08 (five years ago) link

haha bizarro

niels, Friday, 21 September 2018 10:52 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

what a cutie

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 30 October 2018 06:14 (five years ago) link

<3 all this baby cthulhus

la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 21:23 (five years ago) link

I watch cooking shows all the time, perhaps masochistically as a vegan, but I don't mind people meat being cooked. But octopus (and veal) produces a sense of distaste that I never had before.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:23 (five years ago) link

I mean, I'm used to meat, so other people ordering meat in a restaurant doesn't bother me. but someone ordering octopus bothers me. I guess noone's reactions make much sense.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:25 (five years ago) link

(I still don't say anything)

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

"people meat" doesn't bother you??

Captain Hardchord (Leee), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

It's less insulting than "meatbag"

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 1 November 2018 00:51 (five years ago) link

https://youtu.be/7tScAyNaRdQ

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:33 (five years ago) link

ah fuck it, I don't know how to embed these things. not octopus related, just a "people meat" short film.

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Thursday, 1 November 2018 01:34 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just remove the "s" from "https". Yes, it means its not secure, but that's how ILX rolls.

Sanpaku, Thursday, 15 November 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Cheers!

http://youtu.be/7tScAyNaRdQ

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 16 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

o fuck

Mince Pramthwart (James Morrison), Friday, 16 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link

from this thread i ended up at the end of the internet and learning about the argonaut or paper nautilus, which is not a nautilus but apparently a back-evolution of octopus and it is really interesting. i've never seen one of those shells before either, or i just assumed it was a type of proper nautilus?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argonaut_(animal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-4JYPXPSrk

Hunt3r, Friday, 16 November 2018 05:01 (five years ago) link

o fuck

you can't embed shortened urls

Bing The Mighty Seat (sic), Friday, 16 November 2018 09:20 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

d'awwwww look at this squirmy li'l cutie!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAmTTCV7GyY

A tourist in Australia has gone viral after posting a video of themself holding a blue-ringed octopus. But it hasn’t gone viral just because the animal is beautiful. The blue-ringed octopus is one of the most venomous creatures in Australia and the unnamed tourist is lucky to be alive.

The chilling video, which appears to have been originally posted to TikTok, found its way to Reddit over the weekend where Australians started to point out just how dangerous it was to handle a blue-ringed octopus. Commenters shared their own stories about the animal, which reportedly carries enough venom to kill 26 full grown adults in a span of minutes.

The venom of the blue-ringed octopus, which contains the neurotoxin tetrodotoxin, causes paralysis and the sting is so small that most people have no idea that they’ve been poisoned until it’s too late.

To make things even more horrifying, there’s no anti-venom available for the blue-ringed octopus. The only known treatment is to massage the victim’s heart until the venom works its way throughout a person’s body in a matter of hours.

One person on Reddit even told the story of an unnamed victim who had been paralyzed on the beach with their eyes open while facing the sun.

“They survived, but nobody had really thought about the fact they’d been staring up into full midday sunlight for a couple of hours throughout the process with their eyes wide open, pupils fully dilated,” the Redditer said. “Total paralysis, easy for the first-aiders to not think to cover their eyes. Caused irreversible damage. They permanently lost their vision.”

Australia gets a bad rap for having dangerous animals, but most locals believe that the fear is overblown. It’s not overblown when it comes to the blue-ringed octopus though. If you see one in the water, let it be.

maxwell’s silver hang suite (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 31 January 2019 14:03 (five years ago) link

Got to be an American, no?

Oleeever St. John Yogurty (Leee), Thursday, 31 January 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

This is how an octopus changes shades and textures to blend in with its environment pic.twitter.com/xQAV6JhZy7

— How Things Work (@ThingsCutInHaIf) February 9, 2019

mark s, Saturday, 9 February 2019 16:52 (five years ago) link

cor

Calgary customer Elvis Cavalic (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:08 (five years ago) link

five months pass...

hello bubbeleh

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 9 July 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

https://trailersfromhell.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sh-e1483663767465.jpg

Best movie title ever. Should be scored by Eek! A Mouse.

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 10 July 2019 04:51 (four years ago) link

If only the movie lived up to the title.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Wednesday, 10 July 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

hello im having the best day ever bc i just found out this shiny holographic octopus exists pic.twitter.com/UC9Vw0MrdP

— stacie 🍵 REOPENING COMMS 7/15 (@CthulhuLel) July 7, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

(yes, i know it's a cuttlefish; it can't help it)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 14 July 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

Good trilobite disguise.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

It's apparently pretending to be the venomous flatfish, see more of its impersonations here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wos8kouz810

Coelacanth Green (Leee), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

Would not mind being reincarnated as an octopus

Bnad, Wednesday, 17 July 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

they are SO **cking badass it's ridiculous

one charm and one antiup quark (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 17 July 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

Mimic Octopus/Sanders 2020

one month passes...

Are we ready for a pride octopus?

https://youtu.be/QJcXMPJ9XN8

William Tao Overture (Leee), Friday, 23 August 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link


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