catch 22 is my fav book, but i haven't seen the nichols version yet. cautiously optimistic about the clooney one.
is the 1970 version worth digging up?
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link
Arkin is a great Yossarian, and there are some brilliant scenes. Nichols ladles on more shtick than is ideal (prostitute sashaying to Thus Spake Zarathustra).
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:52 (one year ago) link
Still the broadly comic stuff is what mostly works best.
― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 12 July 2018 15:53 (one year ago) link
reminds me of Ulysses from the same era: more like a moving slide show tour of the book than a fully functional movie, not sure either of them are filmable books.
― ABBA Bill O'Reilly (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:06 (one year ago) link
a faithfully filmed tv series of catch-22 might wind up looking a bit like...arrested development season 4 lol with all the overlapping plotlines and mixed-up chronology.
― supreme court justice samuel lance-ito (voodoo chili), Thursday, 12 July 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link
could it be good?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 18:15 (nine months ago) link
I kinda don't want to see it because i love the book and it might make me mad. The 70s movie was short/vague enough for me to accept ... I feel like with a longer series, I would be less forgiving.
Also, chiming in that Kelly's Heroes was really great ...
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 19:28 (nine months ago) link
(prostitute sashaying to Thus Spake Zarathustra)
otm, this is a mortifying disaster that seems to go on forever
that review just describes plot points / themes from the book like "deep!" and the closest it comes to filmcrit is where it says kyle chandler furrows his brow
2001 cue aside i like the nichols movie quite a bit. agree that it cuts so much out it passes naturally into being its own thing while maintaining (a scale model of) the book's structure; the dreamlike staging of the central trauma is good; many of the performances are v canny about when and when not to step into cartoonishness. voight and grodin in partic do perfectly characterized monsters.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:13 (nine months ago) link
voight has a line-- "then they'll understand"-- buck henry immodestly claims induced heller in the screening room to mutter "i wish i'd thought of that"
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:15 (nine months ago) link
also i do "...if you live" (pops lips) anytime someone tells me how old they're going to turn soon, including small children
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 20:29 (nine months ago) link
It clearly wants to be a coen bros-style adaptation and it makes me want the coen bros to have directed this
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:23 (nine months ago) link
oh man, idk, i think Coens would have made it way too schticky ... 10 years ago I would have said Lars Von Trier should've done it, but I hate him now, so ...
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 21:46 (nine months ago) link
catch-22 is better but kelly's heroes is the one i'd watch if all three were mysteriously on tv some weekend afternoon
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 May 2019 23:22 (nine months ago) link
they're all good bit id have to give nichols extra credit for managing it at all
― deemsthelarker (darraghmac), Thursday, 16 May 2019 08:19 (nine months ago) link
Dr. Johnson to thread.
― Ned Caligari (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 May 2019 09:48 (nine months ago) link
As he hurls insults at them, a series of close-ups introduces some of the young men, one by one, as their names are displayed on screen.
Jfc are ppl really still doing that move in 2019?
Always liked the Nichols movie but found it hard to really love, the performances and a lot of the photography are great but it feels like a series of sketches. Definitely best appreciated as a separate work thats adjacent to/inspired by the book. Havent seen Kellys Heroes in a long time but absolutely loved it as a kid, espec Rickles, and Sutherland's negative waves speech. Definitely gonna find time to revisit that one v soon.
― One Eye Open, Thursday, 16 May 2019 18:22 (nine months ago) link