RIP Tom Petty

How much of it is stuff that was not on the Playback box set?

only one I'm seeing that seems to be right from playback is the stevie nicks version of "apartment song" but I'm not positive.
looks like a cool set! the previously released album tracks thrown in seem a little weird, but maybe they're there for flow.

first single is kinda great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0nIV60ssA

I think I'm gonna have to compare the 2CD and 4CD track listings. If the 2CD set has all the unreleased tracks and alternate versions, I'll buy that. Cause honestly the Live Anthology is so good that I don't really need the live stuff.

Someone posted the entire Mike Campbell guitar doc!

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6g58e4

thanking u

How I'd rank'em.

into the great wide open gets love; i'm happy.

(also agree on mojo)

"Into the Great Wide Open" is sooo great, easily one of the best power pop records I've ever heard.

wait what? The title track? For power pop it's rather sleepy.

lol yeah there's uh not a lot of "power" in that record

No no, I meant the album. Mainly for "King's Highway", "Two Gunslingers", "All the wrong reasons", "Dark of the sun" (though I suppose the title track to a degree, too)

and "Out in the Cold"!

wait i thought i hated power pop

that's my favorite petty album wtf my life is a lie

wait i thought i hated power pop

Yeah, I share the sentiment. This is like it's a power pop record made by accident.

I love Big Star but most of the power pop stuff I've heard sounds so defanged in comparison. To me, Petty eschews that languid sound and restores some edge to it.

"power pop" possibly one of the most poorly defined subgenres ever

The Raspberries are awesome btw

power pop is extraordinarily well suited to the Spotify playlist format

numero has a great one

Big Star is a power pop band in the same way Led Zeppelin is a early 70s hard rock band, of it but far above it

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album. Well, here is the Dirty Knobs, which is Campbell and friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Cfsktanus

what a horrible band name

I think it's a good name!

It's a guitar nerd joke, but it's also a funny put-down.

too close to The Dirty Heads for my taste

The actual chorus is weak. Should have cut it and just let the pre-chorus be the chorus.

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album.

Was this around the time he started giving away songs to other people ("Ways To Be Wicked", "Boys Of Summer", "Heart Of The Matter", etc.)?

Much later, apparently. He offered "Boys of Summer" to Petty first, in fact, but after fiddling with it Petty reportedly passed. "Heart of the Matter" I assume was similar. Funny that that album also features a few songs written by Stan Lynch.

verse is basically warren zevon covering "raspberry beret."

"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.

"Heart of the Matter" is fucking terrible.

runaway train is gorgeous

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album.

yeah this is covered in the Warren Zanes Petty bio — kind of an interesting glimpse of how un-laid back Petty actually was!

He won't back down, man.

just read that Zanes bio...really great...so much I didn't know

man I miss Tom way more than I thought I would - a good bio of him sounds like a worthwhile read

yeah, i think the Zanes bio is pretty unflinching for an authorized book.

"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.

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...but then it did (purportedly unintentionally lol*):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27_-AWZcZec

*lol because Campbell actually played on the studio track and didn't recognize his own composition until Stevie brought it up to him.

The Zanes bio is essential. One of the best rock biographies I've ever read. Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.

it's got everything and Stephen Stills!

I love "Oooh My Love."

Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.

Tbf, he was this after an epic documentary that overlooked (at his request) a lot of bad shit, and after that conversations book, which did the same. Third time's a charm!

more like Tom Pretty am I right (as in, pretty petty!!)

that Bogdo doc is a strange watch

yeah it was weirdly disjointed for such a long watch

Wildflowers deluxe thingy is pretty fuckin magic. It’s crazy how even the outtakes are just so goddamn good, and the live songs sound SO great - lots of care taken in the curation, really impressed

yeah, it's great. the outtakes are all pretty album ready imo

Like just about anyone with ears in the '80s, I liked a lot of Tom Petty, but I never really thought much of him (figuratively and literally) as a songwriter. That gradually changed over the years until I was able to recognize him as a great songwriter, but the rare one imo that never really made a definitively great album. Until this one. I remember really well the day I got it in the mail at the college paper in 1994 or whenever, putting it on, and thinking, instantly, for whatever reason, OK, this is the one that really finally clicks as a front-to-back classic for me. And years later I feel largely the same way. I'll give Rick Rubin this much credit: the guy (and his team) really know how to capture not just these skilled guys with warehouses full of vintage instruments, but the sound of these guys who *really know* how to play these vintage instruments the way they need to played. Just sounds so great.

I actually think Rubin’s work with Johnny Cash is underrated.

Underrated!?

Those records famously got a ton of acclaim and press after the clueless asshats at Mercury dropped Johnny.

The 70th birthday concert thing was v nice!

Highlight was Benmont Tench & Mike Campbell playing a few songs together- Tench played & sang a rearranged stripped-down piano version of “American Girl” w Campbell accompanying on guitar & I just there stunned with tears pouring out of my eyes

god it was beautiful

no clip on youtube yet but i’ll keep an eye out bc it was really something else