star wars 9 grim resignation thread

rogue one > force awakens > last jedi > solo

this is canonical

Yeah Rogue is even better in the re-watching, i'm hoping the same is true for TLJ when i get around to it but not holding out much hope. Caught just a glimpse of the casino scene from it last week and was all 'urgh jesus..'.

i'd agree with that ranking. all of these are better than the prequels by a factor of 10

tbh the most interesting thing to me about TLJ is how fiercely divided the reaction is, like not even the people who hate or love it seem to agree with each other as to what's good/bad about it

It's kind of like, I don't care if they're good, I'm just not persuaded I need to see the story continue, especially if I have to watch childhood characters die in weird, inappropriate ways. As if Crystal Skull wasn't punishment enough.

I'll see Rogue and Solo though, why not

And I'll see the sequels eventually, who am I kidding

Talk also going around last week that Keri Russell had been cast in an unspecified role, not confirmed by Disney/LFL yet.

She would make a great fucking villain in SW though.

I liked it fine at the time but there were a few groans and it dragged badly. I just think a lot of the reaction looking back was just a comedown from the high of TFA. JJ has his work cut out for sure.

xp They're nothing like Crystal Skull at all IMO so that's something i guess.

She would make a great fucking villain in SW though.

I don't think they're canny enough to use her in this way tbh. I expect she'll be playing another Fierce Resistance Heroine(tm).

Billy Dee Williams was originally supposed to be in the last one and they passed on him for some reason. he is now 81 years old

xp I don't know, this is one of the rare instances where I feel like Abrams can actually manage a curveball, especially with an actress he knows really well.

The Russell/JJ connection hadn't even occurred to me. It would be cool if they did something great with her, she's usually wasted in films (MI:III, the Apes movie she was in)

Hrm, I thought it was somewhere here that someone was saying they went back to rewatch TLJ and was delighted to find out that it stays as good (unlike TFA, which is very hit-this-beat-then-that-one-then). It is pretty clearly the best of them, though.

JJ has his work cut out for sure.

I'm really not expecting anything non-Pavlovian from Episode 9.

especially if I have to watch childhood characters die in weird, inappropriate ways

I could be wrong but I think even the haters* think the deaths were well done.

*okay not Adam.

I'm just a sap who likes everyone having happy endings and whatnot at the end of ROTJ

― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 8:15 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol my advice is to just enjoy that final shot of all the characters together like the big happy family that they are. everyone ends up dying alone and apart from one another.

funny, there are several reunion shots where old characters are introduced to old spaceships or old robots and these moments are milked for nostalgia, but nobody thought of getting the gang of human actors back together.

im not a hater, i actually enjoyed the film when i saw it. but pressured into thinking it's a genius work of art i disagree and i guess that makes me a hater.

i just don't think it's an amazing work of film, just like most of the other ones. it's funny how you could trash the prequels and nobody called you a hater. that's part of the fun of watching dumb space movies. apparently it's serious shit now.

xp ...apart from the scenes where they do.

this movie is going to end with most of the galaxy being blown up and 3 of our heroes getting in an escape POD and heading to a new galaxy and landing on this weird blue planet called EARTH

That seems pretty likely.

I'm the man out there pressuring individuals into believing star wars movies are genius works of art

u monster

my friend who does Star Wars cosplay (mostly as Kylo Ren) went to Disney as Rose (wearing a similar pendant) and got harassed by a busboy who proceeded to accost her and tell her how terrible a character she was for about 15 minutes while she was trying to get food.

I kinda hate this fanbase.

(natch they reported him)

should have told him he was doing a horrible job playing a Disney employee and they can people for that

i find it pretty weird that the twitter/tumblr/online press zeitgeist opinion seems to be that The Last Jedi WAS A TOTAL ERROR OMG DISASTER HOLY SHIT THEY WRECKED STAR WARS

whereas my experience seeing it and chatting to normal real life people afterwards was that despite a few shitty bits, everyone had a lovely time and it went down really damn well.

people on the internet convinced of the importance of their own opinions can't allow themselves to not tear every single thing apart i guess?

^
(old man shouting at "the cloud")

this whole revival is an exercise in pandering and condescension (I say this as someone who mostly likes the new movies) and people, as a rule, unconsciously despise being pandered to.

Last Jedi was pretty great imo. I think it's the least pander-y of the bunch.

really excited for this

oh wait sorry thought this was the RIP Donald Trump thread

the films are very skillfully made with some awe-inspiring moments...i think they fall short in certain areas, mostly in their stabs at terrible meta humor that are mostly completely out of character for those who deliver the lines.

Agreed, I don't think they benefit from any kind of self-awareness

Shdn't grim resignation be the title of uk politics thread lol

Actually, I haven't seen any of the new ones yet. Should I?

The Last Jedi was the first new one I've seen since Caravan Of Courage was in the cinema, and I enjoyed it OK

the last jedi > attack of the clones > revenge of the sith > rogue one > the phantom menace > the force awakens

Attack of the Clones should always bring up the rear

McGregor brings up the rear of that alien-cook's trousers in the diner scene

the last jedi > attack of the clones > revenge of the sith > rogue one > the phantom menace > the force awakens

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, July 10, 2018 9:43 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh wow i am so into this ranking

nobody thought of getting the gang of human actors back together

wha? that’s fucking nuts

rewatched all the prequels this last few weeks as the girlfriend hadn't seen them. They're all actually worse than I remember. stories and scripts are mindboggling awful from start to finish and anyone thinking the new films are somehow worse than them is crazy.

Clones at least is somewhat entertaining during the assassination sequence and then, yeah.

Phantom Menace was godawful, I watched that one for the first time since 1999.

I still kinda like RotS, warts and all.

the part where Anakin gets the "it's only a fleshwound!" treatment is v funny

guys let's just do a "the prequels are: good or bad" poll and everyone who votes for the losing option gets permabanned

polls are anonymous to protect those of us who keep voting for a certain indiana jones/crystal skull movie as the best spielberg work

The Last Jedi > The Force Awakens >> Rogue One >> root canal >>>>> the prequels

seriously tho, the three old leads aren't in *any* scenes together?

not a one in TFA

well, I guess Han Solo/Chewbacca counts, although in the last couple released films, Mayhem is no longer in the costume

petition for a spin-off starring Dean Winters as Chewbacca with the wookiee head taken off

how the fuck did I type that instead of Mayhew

Peter Mayhew. sheesh. sic, you should have caught that

oh wait, the insurance commercial character is Mr. Mayhem and I was properly clowned

never mind