The Jordan Peterson Thread

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Looks like someone isn't cleaning their room

flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

<3

Suck ya mudder, lobster shagger. https://t.co/HSFJgwA0fC

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) July 17, 2018

Simon H., Tuesday, 17 July 2018 11:57 (five years ago) link

JP has written the preface for the reissue of Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago:

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1049544/the-gulag-archipelago/9781784871512/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:19 (five years ago) link

of course he has

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

On brand that he would want to write it. The question is why Penguin would publish.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 30 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

gulags are officially good now

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:23 (five years ago) link

peterson's soviet fetish is... unsettling to me

a Stupendous Leg of Granite (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 July 2018 14:27 (five years ago) link

maybe he should do The Man Without Qualities too

Ludo, Monday, 30 July 2018 15:42 (five years ago) link

The ‘why’ is pretty clear - people doing the introductions are credited as co-authors, and come up as such, on Amazon.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Monday, 30 July 2018 16:17 (five years ago) link

damn glad i have an unsullied copy

flappy bird, Monday, 30 July 2018 16:40 (five years ago) link

gdi

re-evaluating my fav stereolab albums: mayonnaise eclipse and the groop played chaos dragon bachelor pad music pic.twitter.com/N60nLLO2aR

— ┬┴┬┴┤◕_◕) (@malteserubble) August 2, 2018

wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

lol aren't they supposed to be socialists

marcos, Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

marxists, to be exact

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link

JP’s whole thing is literally “Marxism is evil and murderous ideology” and I don’t remember Laetitia ever having a Corgan goes on InfoWars moment so it’s really confusing.

flappy bird, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link

She's involved with all that Living Marxism/Spiked lot who are basically Libertarian trolls.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

Ditto the (former) singer with Pram (see ILM ad nauseum).

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

Imagining Peterson vs. Stereolab as a right vs. left thing is wrong and pointless. Sadier's lyrics contain plenty of sympathetic common ground with the likes of Peterson.

everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

people keep saying this without examples

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link

On the Stereolab thread I posted some. Can do more if you like.

everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

She's involved with all that Living Marxism/Spiked lot who are basically Libertarian trolls.


^ nailing a weird and weirdly important intersection here.

Fizzles, Thursday, 2 August 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

at least i now know not to bother going to see her play here in the autumn

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

Ok, just for fun, how much do you REALLY know about Peterson & Stereolab? There's five quotes from each here:

1. "Those who do not understand yet say they believe are hypocrites. Anything which is beyond the limits of human reason is illusion."

2."Evil is the force that believes its knowledge is complete."

3. "Consult your resentment. It’s a revelatory emotion, for all its pathology."

4. "Morals are for the blind, not the critical mind."

5. "Nothing at all can be changed if evolution turns us to silence"

6. "When you have something to say, silence is a lie"

7. "Originally this set up was to serve society, now the roles have been reversed - they want society to serve the institutions"

8. "To be jealous is to conform."

9. "What's society based on? It's based on bluff."

10. "Speak the truth and see what happens"

everything, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

well I only recognize the Stereolab lyrics tbh

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

cuz fuck if I'm gonna memorize any of this schmucks' "aphorisms" without a catchy melody behind them

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:29 (five years ago) link

Stereolab:
1. "Those who do not understand yet say they believe are hypocrites. Anything which is beyond the limits of human reason is illusion."
4. "Morals are for the blind, not the critical mind."
7. "Originally this set up was to serve society, now the roles have been reversed - they want society to serve the institutions"
9. "What's society based on? It's based on bluff."

idk what the 5th one is

Οὖτις, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:31 (five years ago) link

Those are some pretty bad lyrics.

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

"To be jealous is to conform" tho i think they borrowed that from Barthes

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

no point being outraged at this point that most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends! Just become a Tankie!

calzino, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link

" most musicians (and especially the white indie variety) are complete fucking right wing middle class bellends"

that's certainly untrue

akm, Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

counterpoint

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

Just turned on SkyNews and who is there reviewing tomorrow's papers but Laetitia Sadier Brendan O'Neill, of course!

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Thursday, 2 August 2018 21:53 (five years ago) link

I am very sorry about this

https://i.imgur.com/lbusjT7.png

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:10 (five years ago) link

I still don't get this analogy and that's not Laetitia Sadier.

To NV, it's obviously up to you to skip that show, but you truly would be missing out.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:17 (five years ago) link

(the analogy is that jordan peterson's daughter made a huge deal the other day about his diet of nothing but beef, which makes him the far-right opposite of morrissey)

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link

I just don't get what that has to do with Mumford and Sons and Stereolab. May be in part because I know zero about Mumford and Sons.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:24 (five years ago) link

mumford and sons posted a photo in the studio with jordan peterson, laetitia sadier tweeted pretty glowingly at him

it's a shitpost basically

aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Friday, 3 August 2018 03:27 (five years ago) link

On BBC24 right now, Stephen Sackur interviewing JP, bringing up his nonsense about lobsters...

SS: "Now, I'm no expert..."
JP: "But I am."

Also LOL at Sackur pointing out that, for someone who is concerned with men manning up, he seems awfully thin skinned and oversensitive when criticized - cut to JP looking thin skinned and oversensitive .

Father Ted in Forkhandles (Tom D.), Sunday, 5 August 2018 23:57 (five years ago) link

the decoder ring to JP is that piece by his former colleague imo

flappy bird, Monday, 6 August 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

ah, that Sackur thing was on the World Service this afternoon but i made it to the off switch before Peterson came on. don't expect anything better from a programme called Hardtalk which is a fucking stupid title that only a cunt would want to be the host of

the Joao looked at Jonny (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 August 2018 17:59 (five years ago) link

The Atlantic jumps in bed with Peterson

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/why-the-left-is-so-afraid-of-jordan-peterson/567110/

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:34 (five years ago) link

Well, Caitlin Flanagan is the female Jordan Peterson, so that makes perfect sense.

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:35 (five years ago) link

I can never figure out who "The Left" is anymore.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

thx for the C Flanagan warning so I don't click on that.

Yerac, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

It's a garbage article, but perhaps notable for being in a popular publication that sometimes flirts with liberal ideas.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

lol does this just boil down to "why do people keep criticizing JP's regressive garbage ideas"

frogbs, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

It's more like a content- and evidence-free screed about how the left is dying and millions of would-be liberals are now tuning in to Peterson, thereby creating a full on panic to delegitimize Peterson at all costs. It doesn't real give any reason why people like Peterson outside of vague hints about him being against identity politics.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

It also features the spurious claim that Peterson is as much an enemy of the alt-right as he is of the left.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:52 (five years ago) link

it's a pretty garbage publication

lol at 'thinking something is stupid' = being 'afraid' of it

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 20:54 (five years ago) link


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