POX: Moments from "Heat" (Michael Mann)

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fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad

― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:29 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 7 July 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

"dead-tech, postmodernistic bullshit house"
― N_RQ, Monday, August 1, 2005 2:41 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even as a teenager this line stuck out like a sore thumb and made me lol

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 July 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

"The information's out there - you just gotta know how to catch it" or w/e

The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 July 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

"This Dead-Tech, Postmodernistic Bullshit House: Noir as Form and Function in Heat"

... (Eazy), Sunday, 8 July 2018 15:10 (five years ago) link

So many good thesis titles in this movie.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 8 July 2018 15:11 (five years ago) link

So many good Pacino unnecessarily loud non sequiters in this

― calstars, Saturday, July 7, 2018 7:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably mentioned upthread, but according to Pacino his character was a cokehead and that informed his performance but Mann cut out all direct references to that.

circa1916, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:06 (five years ago) link

ohhhh

calstars, Sunday, 8 July 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

Pacino probably says that about all of his characters.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 8 July 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

After sitting through the moderated conversation in Paris, Faïd got his hands on a microphone during the audience Q&A. Faïd had recently been released from prison—where he served 10 years for assorted armed robberies and jewel heists—and explained as much to the filmmaker (and audience).

“Heat remains the absolute example of organized crime, inspired by life, by people—real facts—he tries to transmit them in his cinema,” Faïd began (via translation). “I personally, I am a former gangster, unfortunately, I do not brag about it. I just spent 10 years in prison. I attacked armored vans. . . . For 20 years, I’ve known Michael Mann. I discovered him with Thief, and, with a bunch of friends, we’ve watched his films a bit as reports, as documentaries, and sometimes even . . . ”

Faïd, starstruck as he was, stumbled a bit before regaining his focus.

“Recently, journalists asked me, ‘You know, you had a big criminal career, and you did it yourself, you’re self-taught.’ I told them, ‘No, I had a technical adviser, a college teacher, a kind of mentor, and his name is Michael Mann.’”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/07/redoine-faid-french-prison-escape-hollywood-michael-mann

... (Eazy), Sunday, 8 July 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

The scene when he’s chewing gum and driving at night, stops at a light and kicks the TV out of the passenger side door, then tears off through the intersection...the fine Colombian

calstars, Tuesday, 10 July 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

I love how Pacino is clearly about to say "big" before he says "GREAT ASS!"

flappy bird, Tuesday, 6 November 2018 23:42 (five years ago) link

have we discussed how the script gave pacino's character a coke habit, which explains all the manic energy and overripe line readings, but mann took that motif out in the edit?

IMO dialogue is central to few of the best moments from this movie.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 09:13 (five years ago) link

this movie is nearly 25 years old btw! i guess it's been an official classic for nearly a decade now. deservedly.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 09:14 (five years ago) link

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:29 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 7 July 2018 20:37 (four months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i want donald duck to scream into my dick (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 7 November 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

the worst moment is

"i'm scots irish. my family emigrated to appalachia in the late 1700s."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

Tom Sizemore's diner stare is one of my favorite shots in this.

... (Eazy), Friday, 9 November 2018 20:36 (five years ago) link

everyone in this film has an amazing house, except Waingro who stays in a series of cheap motels until the end when he's earned some cash for being a rat and upgrades to an airport hotel.

omar little, Friday, 9 November 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

Trejo’s house (stilts not visible from street view) https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/1219-Dodds-Cir-90063/home/6957172

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 November 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Hey Edie Brickell, what’s the latest?

calstars, Saturday, 10 November 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

some great stills in this piece

https://www.lataco.com/where-the-movie-heat-was-shot-in-la/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 05:33 (five years ago) link

Great article, thanks

calstars, Tuesday, 12 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

_fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:29 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

― Fox News' Chad Pergram contributed to this report (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 7 July 2018 20:37 (four months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink_

a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:18 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

pic.twitter.com/yJGV6A5mXd https://t.co/j1PcI3VBTW

— robert franco, wandering ronin (@responsiblerob) December 22, 2021



I just watched den of thieves btw. Indescribably bad. Every letterboxd review calls it “heat with a monster energy drink” or “guy fieri’s heat” or whatever but it’s just bad.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 22 December 2021 23:07 (two years ago) link

What’s the Fieri connection to den of thieves?

calstars, Wednesday, 22 December 2021 23:56 (two years ago) link

There's a great French movie called Braqueurs (Netflix changed it to the ultra-generic The Crew) that's like Heat condensed to 80 minutes. It's directed by Julien Leclercq; worth finding if you can. Here's an unsubtitled trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jBC7XBVhH8

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 23 December 2021 02:09 (two years ago) link

there’s a series called ganglands, same director

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 23 December 2021 09:45 (two years ago) link

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad
― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:29 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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― a surprise challenge that ended with a gunging (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 19:18 (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

balsamic vaccinegar of moderna (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 23 December 2021 12:28 (two years ago) link

this is the best gay movie of
all
time

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 December 2021 14:36 (two years ago) link

I mainly remember the use of Neubauten's Armenia as a theme for one character. Is it Val Kilmer's wife. a snippet crops up each time they appear.
wondered if it had anything to di withh Rollins being in the film. He has a large EN symbol on his arm

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 December 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

I think it reappears a couple of times in the Informant too

Stevolende, Thursday, 23 December 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

I have very little memory of the movie (except Ashley Judd's heartbreakingly poignant warning move). My main association is now the Moby cover of "New Dawn Fades"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynA1dO9Kx8s

That's the version that's on the 24 Hour Party People soundtrack; there's a different version in the film, which is okay but a bit more plodding and lacks the requisite urgency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5hSvu1dzw

deez nuts roasting on an open fire (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 23 December 2021 17:21 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

Podcast that does a Minute by minute analysis of the movie
https://open.spotify.com/show/39GMGljDTd8maGzNhK4enI?si=TlQ4F90LTzOE2B6NHAZi_g

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/lzmRj7N.png

calstars, Monday, 18 April 2022 18:18 (two years ago) link

This must have been one of my first 15 or 20 mp3s in the early days of Napster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHc-3tNoAB8

billstevejim, Monday, 18 April 2022 20:47 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

just discovered the joy of watching movies through Snapchat filters pic.twitter.com/80b7kuoSah

— Russell (@RussellHFilm) May 26, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 14 November 2022 06:32 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

So here's a thing

https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2023/01/heat-alternate-edit-of-coffee-shop-scene.html

Fellow "Heat" (1995) fans - I just found an amazing Easter Egg on the Blu-ray. It's an early edit of the infamous Pacino/De Niro coffee shop scene, created early in the film's production when director Michael Mann wanted the scene to be shorter and have a lot less dialogue. It's much moodier and more threatening than the final version, if you ask me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JllQtCEkhpA

Ned Raggett, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:36 (one year ago) link

lol I thought that was silly, almost like a fan-edit gag. What I appreciate in the original/film is the familiar Mann motif of men so wed to their professions that it encompasses their life at the cost of everything around them. The characters are fully aware of the price they are paying but are compelled, even doomed to their respective pursuits all the same. I didn't find either cut particularly menacing or threatening. If anything I love how mundane it is, underscored by Hanna's line "We're sitting here like a coupla regular fellas," even though both understand they are anything but.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

JOSH

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

hahaha omg

Tracer Hand, Monday, 23 January 2023 16:51 (one year ago) link

Oh, wait, is it a fan-edit gag?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 January 2023 17:56 (one year ago) link

It's still hilarious/fascinating to see the true first draft of this scene, part of the first version of Heat: Mann's TV-movie L.A. Takedown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye6tmftzMoI

The self-titled drags (Eazy), Monday, 23 January 2023 18:47 (one year ago) link

That edit has me on the floor! Lol

calstars, Monday, 23 January 2023 19:07 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

Watched this last night, I hadn't seen it since it first came out and my wife had never seen it. When it was over, she said, "If I had known this was the greatest movie ever made, I would have watched it a long time ago." She's now trying to figure out how to see it on a big screen, up to possibly renting out our local indie theater just for that purpose.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 December 2023 17:47 (four months ago) link

Your wife OTM

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 10 December 2023 18:00 (four months ago) link

I saw this on the big screen a year or two ago and was reminded that the bank robbery shootout is LOUD

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 10 December 2023 18:00 (four months ago) link

I’d forgotten so much of it, all the intricate side stories, how generous it is with screen time for even minor characters like poor Dennis Haysbert. An epic! *Pacino voice* SHAKESPEAREAN!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 10 December 2023 18:14 (four months ago) link

Overlooked / under-used “Pacino on coke” perspective

calstars, Sunday, 10 December 2023 21:53 (four months ago) link

the way Dennis Haysbert says "the hell are you proud of me for?" kills me every time.

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 06:51 (four months ago) link

such a well-acted scene

STUPID CRAP FACE (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 06:52 (four months ago) link

"marred"

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 23:32 (four months ago) link

Maybe I've missed it, but I'm surprised there hasn't been a scene in a Michael Mann film where two guys sit down and simply go "WOMEN. Am I right??"

birdistheword, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 04:02 (four months ago) link

His name is Michael Mann for <a reason>

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 04:12 (four months ago) link

Maybe in “Ferrari”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 12:05 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

lol I forgot Henry Rollins and Tone Lōc were in it

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 March 2024 22:54 (two months ago) link


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